Originally posted by Utrigita
When?Something you forget to take into the equation Bentley is that 1: Fury was depleted from that battle against MJJ 2: That Fury only won because he could transport MJJ back to reality 238 and fry his brain.
Now can Solar beat down Fury based on his showings? Imo yes.
Now can Fury somehow cut Solar out of the most fundamental source in the universe energy? Imo No.
So Bentley in the end it all comes down to this question: How exactly do you see Fury win? Please don't give me "Fury will find a way"
What do you want me to say? I'm going to ask if Solar has ANY weakness -say magic- you are going to say no. I'm going to tell you if absorbing all the energy in the universe where Solar is would work, you will probably tell me "when has the Fury shown enough power to do that" etc. The powerset of the character is to find weakness and exploit them, if you think Solar has no weakness of course you think he wins, why do you even want to debate with me?
Come, prove on panel that solar cannot be beaten by anything -as I understand it, for example, he can absorb psychic energy, but if the Fury can shield himself from reality warping he can probably shield a signal of psychic energy to mind-rape Solar-.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Solar has fought an ultimate adaptor already. He won.Thing is, once Solar figures out how dangerous the Fury is, one shot is all he'll need. No time to evolve.
Solar wins.
Talk more about this Ultimate Adaptator.
Originally posted by Bentley
Talk more about this Ultimate Adaptator.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/solar82.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/solar83.jpg
Basically, this guy just becomes immune once you hit him once. Solar simply changed how he hit the guy and one shotted him with ease.
Also, I agree with trickster. Solar HAS no weaknesses. Also, stamina-wise while Fury fought for a several panels and ran out of energy at the end, I've read issues where Solar fought for hundreds of years against the spider aliens.
The nature of Fury's powers makes him a plausible threat, but this is at the very LEAST Solar winning 6/10.
Mr.M is on, now thou art ****ed.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/solar82.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/solar83.jpgBasically, this guy just becomes immune once you hit him once. Solar simply changed how he hit the guy and one shotted him with ease.
Also, I agree with trickster. Solar HAS no weaknesses. Also, stamina-wise while Fury fought for a several panels and ran out of energy at the end, I've read issues where Solar fought for hundreds of years against the spider aliens.
The nature of Fury's powers makes him a plausible threat, but this is at the very LEAST Solar winning 6/10.
Chill out troll-o
Originally posted by D_Dude1210Also, I agree with trickster. Solar HAS no weaknesses.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210Also, stamina-wise while Fury fought for a several panels and ran out of energy at the end,
I've read issues where Solar fought for hundreds of years against the spider aliens.
And stating Fury "ran out of energy" is a bit misleading without mentioning who he was fighting,
I mean, again,
he was in a battle to the death
with a character that had the power to become God of the Omniverse!
(not a potential power ... MJJ 616 had the power, so did 238 btw lol)
Originally posted by Mr MasterThe Scatterbrain attack is Time-based,
let me know if you need the scanned proof.
Originally posted by UtrigitaPlease show me.
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So you wanna see Fury resisting a Time-based attack specifically?
This is Fascination/Scatterbrain (a temporal manipulator)
"Time distorts around her.
Motion breaks down into juddering stroboscopic images.
Seconds stretch into centuries.
Aeons condense into instants"
..........................................................................................................
Fascination (Scatterbrain) wasn't even trying to hurt Brian,
and she knocked him out cold.
When Scatterbrain wants to hurt you,
this TIME affect expands across the Omniverse!
"And with her touch,
the guard finds his Consciousness
instantly expanded across the Infinite breadth of the Omniverse"
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Now imagine the kind of attack
Scatterbrain unleashed on the Fury after he killed some of her team mates:
Her touch is all that's needed,
yet she clawed her fingers into the Fury's head like a savage!
Fury immediately adapted, and owned Scatterbrain,
and Brian who tried to help.
Originally posted by Mr Master
============================================So you wanna see [b]Fury resisting a Time-based attack
specifically?This is Fascination/Scatterbrain (a temporal manipulator)
"Time distorts around her.
Motion breaks down into juddering stroboscopic images.
Seconds stretch into centuries.
Aeons condense into instants"..........................................................................................................
Fascination (Scatterbrain) wasn't even trying to hurt Brian,
and she knocked him out cold.When Scatterbrain wants to hurt you,
this TIME affect expands across the Omniverse!"And with her touch,
the guard finds his Consciousness
instantly expanded across the Infinite breadth of the Omniverse"==============================================
Now imagine the kind of attack
Scatterbrain unleashed on the Fury after he killed some of her team mates:Her touch is all that's needed,
yet she clawed her fingers into the Fury's head like a savage!Fury immediately adapted, and owned Scatterbrain,
and Brian who tried to help. [/B]
With all due respect master, I can see how that can be seen as a Time Attack, yet this particular Attack (if that is the correct name for it) is depending on the Brain to be active in order to function Fury showed that quiet well when he cut the rest of his body of from his Brain, I however doesn't see how Bentley ore yourself for that matter, can based on these scans above, state that Fury wouldn't be faced by a Time Freeze... Perhaps I'm overlooking something srug
Originally posted by UtrigitaWith all due respect master, I can see how that can be seen as a Time Attack, yet this particular Attack (if that is the correct name for it) is depending on the Brain to be active in order to function Fury showed that quiet well when he cut the rest of his body of from his Brain
Also, I can't see how you can't see that Scatterbrain's power is temporal based,
please read the scans where she ko's Brian.
Originally posted by UtrigitaI however doesn't see how Bentley ore yourself for that matter, can based on these scans above, state that Fury wouldn't be faced by a Time Freeze... Perhaps I'm overlooking something
Time is an aspect of Reality.
But that aside, Fury on panel withstood an omniversal time-based attack,
and not only survived, but adapted and stomped the attacker.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Fury first felt the effect of Scatterbrain's power,
then withstood it, adapted to it, & then owned.Also, I can't see how you can't see that Scatterbrain's power is temporal based,
please read the scans where she ko's Brian.
Yes he did.
I read it differently then you then I suppose, I see her "attack" working as a kind of cosmic expanding awarness which makes you feel that everything is slowing down around you while in truth it isn't, it's only the feeling you get from your brain.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Well, the fact that Reality manipulation doesn't work,
makes it safe to say that Time manipulation won't work either.Time is an aspect of Reality.
But that aside, Fury on panel withstood an omniversal time-based attack,
and not only survived, but adapted and stomped the attacker.
Reality warping initially worked on Fury, he got warped into a ball, and so did this time attack just above, Fury's mind was slowed down (which I must admit that I doesn't see as a Time attack, but that is just my view of the attack based on the shown scans)... And I'm complete aware of that Time is a Aspect of Reality, I'm just noticing that MJJ not at any point of time tried and utilize time as a offensive mean against Fury that is all.
See above.
Yep, I also think you misread how Scatterbrain's attack works. Reread your scans.
"+Female Interfering with Temporal Lobe of Brain++"
"...and so it shuts its brain down.."
to adapt to her powers.
How the heck is THAT a time based attack?? It's a psychic attack that makes you FEEL like time is warping around you. Unless you think shutting down one's brain is the best way to adapt to a time based attack...
The Fury has not shown any way to adapt to time based attack. Solar is the master of time/space, see how he casually "moves" his body outside of time to think about his next move...
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/solar85.jpg
Solar can move his body outside of time, power himself up in it and just one shot the Fury before the Fury can compute of a way to adapt to his powers.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210Yep, I also think you misread how Scatterbrain's attack works. Reread your scans.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210"+Female Interfering with Temporal Lobe of Brain++"
"...and so it shuts its brain down.."
to adapt to her powers.
Huh, "around her" ... How can that be when it's all in Fury's head? 😐
"the guard's consciousness
is instantly expanded across the infinite breadth of the Omniverse"
Huh? ... "across the Omniverse?" ... but it's all in his head. 😂
Originally posted by D_Dude1210How the heck is THAT a time based attack?? It's a psychic attack that makes you FEEL like time is warping around you. Unless you think shutting down one's brain is the best way to adapt to a time based attack...
If it was all in the brain,
consciousness would not be travelling across the entire Omniverse's temporal axis.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210The Fury has not shown any way to adapt to time based attack.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210Solar is the master of time/space, see how he casually "moves" his body outside of time to think about his next move...
Originally posted by D_Dude1210Solar can move his body outside of time, power himself up in it and just one shot the Fury before the Fury can compute of a way to adapt to his powers.
On the one shot theory ... hysterical
Originally posted by UtrigitaYes he did.
I read it differently then you then I suppose, I see her "attack" working as a kind of cosmic expanding awarness which makes you feel that everything is slowing down around you while in truth it isn't, it's only the feeling you get from your brain.
So unless the Fury and the guard contain the Omniverse in their heads,
I have to disagree good friend with your interpretation.
Originally posted by UtrigitaReality warping initially worked on Fury, he got warped into a ball, and so did this time attack just above
Originally posted by UtrigitaAnd I'm complete aware of that Time is a Aspect of Reality, I'm just noticing that MJJ not at any point of time tried and utilize time as a offensive mean against Fury that is all.
