Thanos+I.G. vs Your DCU Dirty Dozen

Originally posted by UKR
Unless I've broken any rules - and I'm sure I haven't - then there's nothing you can do if you don't like something about me. There is nothing wrongful or illegitimate about my presence here, and you have no business giving me this disrespect just because I'm not a complete nerd who spends every penny on books that are popular but not which I enjoy. I've hardly done anything wrong.

My lord.

This has nothing to do with what I'm saying, at all. Did you have this perfectly punctiliously response prepared in case someone intelligent attacked you?

I feel like it's the mid 30s, and I'm ****ing Hemingway and you're.... ****ing Dorthy Parker or something. Oh wait, YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE, DO YOU???

No, you don't, and if you go look them up on wiki, trust me, I'll know.

That's not what I'm saying.

I'm not challenging who you are as A PERSON, and if you mistake my comment for that, you're not reading it.

Again, and again, and again, I'm not saying you're an unintelligent person.

Honestly, a comic book forum is not the place if you're trying to judge the limitations of what a person can accomplish outside it.

The basis, the minimum, the exact bottom requirement of what I'm saying....

..... is just read more comics. You know what? Call me a nerd if you like. I really don't care at all about being called a nerd, or a geek, or a loser.... That's the entire purpose of these forums. We're on here debating about ****ing COMICS.... if any one of us really tripped about social standing based on that idea, we wouldn't be here.

All I'm saying, is that if you're going to make a comment like you did, go read some comics outside of the immediate Marvel and DC canons. Go check out some Vertigo, or ever some Indie Publishers. Scott Pilgrim is really good, and that's not published by either major company. I, personally, ADORE, Hellblazer, which you obviously know, is one of the OG Vertigo titles (at 250 now). Maybe read some "Invincible," of, if you want to go crazy and out there, some "American Splendor." Maybe take a break and read some "Love and Rockets" or "Invinsibles" or "Swamp Thing."

You see, you're entirely missing the point. I don't think you're not intellegent. I just think by arguining how you do on KMC, and the way it's obvious that you read comics, you're missing out on the entire ****ing spectrume that "art" and "writing" can produce.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Thanos- Infinity Gauntlet

VS

DCU'S Dirty Dozen- Who are the 12 heroes/Villains that could stop Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet?

12, hm kk an good challenge,

My "normal" Team, with prep of course

My first 8

Lex Luthor
Alexander Luthor (if allowed)
Batman
Superman (incl Sundipping)
GL (Hal)
Black Alice (IG is energy, mystical energies are energy, why not?)
Flash (Barry or Wally)
Deadman

The following 4 might be overkill but just for fun

Superboy-Prime (with g amp would be an a good distraction)
Monarch (if allowed)
Brainiac 13 (I think this one could do it solo, with prep)
Darkside (I don't know if Skyfathers are allowed, but he surely is a Villain)

Those 4 might be sufficient enough, they could replace the big 4 from above,

Dr. Fate
PC-Supergirl
Superman 1M
Doomsday (Gog Wars)

Thanos has to fight like he did in IG, not like he would by KMC rules. 😉

Originally posted by Batman-Prime

Thanos has to fight like he did in IG, not like he would by KMC rules. 😉

um,who are you to add anything to what the op stated?douche 😆

Originally posted by Nestical
um,who are you to add anything to what the op stated?douche 😆

Batman-Prime and you?

😐

Originally posted by UKR
-Parallax: Maybe, he destroyed and recreated the whole DCU or something like that. I think he would barely beat Thanos.
-Elaine Beloc: Who?
-The Specter: If he was really as powerful as everyone grossly overhypes him to be, then sure. But from what I've seen, this guy is no "wrath of God".
-Superman w/cosmic armor: I don't even know where Superman stands in this situation. But I doubt this would work, I don't think Superman was above Eternity-level or anything like that.
-The Source, the Word, the Presence, etc: I'm not sure but I think this is the monotheistic "God" of the DCU with a capital G. So, obviously he would beat Thanos.
-The Endless: Are pretty badly overhyped. I've never been convinced that these guys deserve the kind of credit they get. From what I've seen, they are basically a bunch of fairly ordinary and generic cosmic types, not really among the greatest bigwigs of either the MU or DCU.
-Meshta: Who?
-Rama Kushna: Who? (I think). If this is that Hindu god who had trouble with Wonder Woman and got owned by being zapped with the Godwave, which is merely the energy of the DC Greek pantheon, then this doesn't seem like much of a fight.
-Lucifer: It's a bit hard to tell, but overall I wouldn't think so. This guy needed to combine his power with that of Michael to create just one universe. I believe the IG goes well beyond that.
-Michael: Just a Lucifer-level guy, right? Same, then.
-Gabriel: If he's on the par of the last two, then same.
-The Great Evil Beast: Excuse my ignorance (if any, I don't know), but I believe this thing is the equal to the Presence, the Source, the Word, etc and all that stuff and that it existed before God created the universe. So I think that that puts it beyond an IG wielder...but I'm not sure by how much.
-5th and 12th dimensional imps: The IG's no threat.
-The Anti-Monitor, full power: I think this guy got killed by "pre-Crisis" Superman or Supergirl or something, or had trouble with them. I never read "Crisis", so I'm not really sure. I think at his peak he could destroy the DCU, or had 52 universes of secret herbs and spices backing him up, or beat the Specter with the Presence or something backing him up, etc. IMO this is the most even fight of them all, but I believe Thanos' craftiness will give the Mad Titan the victory, rather than the power of the IG doing it.
-Mandrakk: I have almost no idea who that is.

Perhaps someone can finish my post.

In Marvel, only the entity second to the supreme being can definitively defeat an IG wielder,
and it would take destroying Reality as we know it do succeed in that endeavor.

In fact, I remember the LT stating
that if the IG could be reformed by Rune in the Multiverse that houses the Ultraverse,
it would basically be the end of that Multiverse, and perhaps his (LT's) own as well.

This is because the IG per TOAA allows the wielder to become God of all reality.

And only the LT,
while directly representing TOAA's power, is above it as far as as any of us knows.

Originally posted by Mr Master
In Marvel, only the entity second to the supreme being can definitively defeat an IG wielder,
and it would take destroying Reality as we know it do succeed in that endeavor.

In fact, I remember the LT stating
that if the IG could be reformed by Rune in the Multiverse that houses the Ultraverse,
it would basically be the end of that Multiverse, and perhaps his (LT's) own as well.

This is because the IG per TOAA allows the wielder to become God of all reality.

And only the LT,
while directly representing TOAA's power, is above it as far as as any of us knows.

The Ultimator
Mr. Mxy
Cosmic Extant
The Wish Machine User
Mandrakk
Classic Anti-Monitor
The Spectre
The Word
Lucifer
Michael
The Source
And others I'm forgetting can all stalemate or defeat the Ig user.

Originally posted by fangirl101

That is a terrible analogy.

Originally posted by fangirl101

The LT according to you has never been changed

Originally posted by fangirl101

and If This weret he classic Days,
he wouldn't be second to the supreme being.
And yet he would still be powerful enough to defeat the IG.
The classic Molecule man,
would be mroe pwoerful than the LT according to you,
but would be third on the ladder since he would be under the beyonder who is under TOAA.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Anyone and anything with better feats and more displays of power can defeat the Ig.

You got a problem with that, email Marvel.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Cause you say so? 😂

Correct.

Now this analogy is truly terrible,
since this thread has absolutely nothing to do with retconned characters,
or Marvel's food chain during that pre-retcon era.

In Marvel comics,
only the representation of TOAA's power can defeat a pis free IG wielder.

You got a problem with that, email Marvel.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Nah.

Since Marvel has NEVER stated that load of crap.

First proof the IG makes one God over all reality ... absolute omnipotence!

..........................................................................................

Marvel.com states the Infinity Gauntlet grants:

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Infinity_Gauntlet_%28item%29

Powers: "Absolute Omnipotence when the Gems are used altogether"

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*** On Panel proof ***

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Thanos became "God" beneath the LT according to Marvel comics:

Thanos, ... "In-effect became God"

..........................................................................................

Warlock became "God" beneath the LT according to Marvel comics:

[i]Warlock, ... "was mentally unfit to be God"

..........................................................................................

Soul Gem states:

That the IG is Omnipotence ... and makes the wielder All there is:

"[I]I am one of Six which were once One ...
we were Omnipotence and All there was"

The Living Tribunal certifies this claim:

"Warlock chose him while in a state of Omnipotence,
AND,
it can NOT be denied"

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*** Jim Starlin interview ***

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Jim Starlin

(the writer/creator of the Infinity Gauntlet)

gets interviewed by Marvel Age.

Marvel Age is a Marvel title specifically designed to get the intricate details
to stories from the Writers themselves.

"The Infinity Gauntlet,
a story that dealt with the idea of a nihilist (Thanos) becoming God"

..........................................................................................

Jim Starlin himself adds:

"I've done the good side of God and the bad side of God,
I've gone as far as I can with the Infinity Gauntlet"

Originally posted by fangirl101

That is some serious fan boy created oscar meyer right there.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Show me one panel where is specifically states what you are saying.

just a plain statement that no one but God's power can defeat the Ig.

TOAA's power, the representative avatar who can be referred to as "God,"
but instead is actually & literally above he who is God withIN the Marvelverse stories.

WithIN the Marvelverse stories, only a few characters have achieved this status,
but TOAA/God is above them all,
and while representing his power, so is the LT.

When the LT nullified IG/Warlock's attack, LT told Warlock why he was able to do this:

Correct, because the LT is acting as a direct representative of TOAA's power.

.........................................................................

Here IG/Warlock himself while omnipotent
tells us that LT was representing one who is above GOD! (himself)

Originally posted by Mr Master
Same ol, same ol, ... posting with ignorance as your back-up.

First proof the IG makes one God over all reality ... absolute omnipotence!

..........................................................................................

Marvel.com states the Infinity Gauntlet grants:

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Infinity_Gauntlet_%28item%29

[B]Powers: "Absolute Omnipotence when the Gems are used altogether"

========================

On Panel proof:

========================

Thanos became "God" beneath the LT according to Marvel comics:

Thanos, ... "In-effect became God"

..........................................................................................

Warlock became "God" beneath the LT according to Marvel comics:

[i]Warlock, ... "was mentally unfit to be God"

..........................................................................................

Soul Gem states:

That the IG is Omnipotence ... and makes the wielder All there is:

"[I]I am one of Six which were once One ...
we were Omnipotence and All there was"

The Living Tribunal certifies this claim:

"Warlock chose him while in a state of Omnipotence,
AND,
it can NOT be denied"

========================

Jim Starlin interview:

========================

Jim Starlin

(the writer/creator of the Infinity Gauntlet)

gets interviewed by Marvel Age.

Marvel Age is a Marvel title specifically designed to get the intricate details
to stories from the Writers themselves.

"The Infinity Gauntlet,
a story that dealt with the idea of a nihilist (Thanos) becoming God"

..........................................................................................

Jim Starlin himself adds:

"I've done the good side of God and the bad side of God,
I've gone as far as I can with the Infinity Gauntlet"

Gibberish [/B]

Originally posted by fangirl101

A bunch of hooey. God beneath LT. LMAO. NO where stated.

Nice.

Originally posted by fangirl101

And there is no statement by marvel that Only TOAA"s power can defeat the IG.

That will be all.

Fact:

On Panel the IG made Thanos & Warlock God!

On Panel only the LT was depicted as being above the IG.

On Panel both the LT & IG wielding Warlock stated
that the LT represents "Forces/One" who is above God.

Marvel.com (IG bio) also states that the IG grants "absolute omnipotence

Jim Starlin himself states (Marvel Age interview) that the IG was a story about becoming God!

--- so, it doesn't take a genius to surmise ... IG makes one God beneath the LT.

And only because the LT was representing TOAA's power.

thankyou

Originally posted by fangirl101

You've shown that you cannot back up what you stated marvel has stated. In fact, they have not stated such.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I see,
so basically you're not only ignorant concerning the IG & Marvel for that matter,
but you'll exude obtuseness to rub your intransigent mind.

Nice.

Fact:

On Panel the IG made Thanos & Warlock God!

On Panel only the LT was depicted as being above the IG.

On Panel both the LT & IG wielding Warlock stated
that the LT represents "Forces/One" who is above God.

Marvel.com also state that the IG grants "absolute omnipotence

Jim Starlin himself states that the IG was a story about becoming God!

--- so, it doesn't take a genius to surmise ... IG makes one God beneath the LT.

And only because the LT was representing TOAA's power.

thankyou

durlaugh

Jim Starlin can state what ever he likes. But in the end, Thanos never became God because he became even more powerful later on in another story.

There are many levels of power between the IG and the heart. And more power even abovet he heart. Status has nothing to do with beating an Ig wielder. One only has to have better feats and more power to defeat it. Your analogy fails to change my mind. I haven't seen one thing from marvel that backs up what you want to be.

^^ 👇 .. no point in continuing this as you will only return with more intransigence.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Fact:

On Panel the IG made Thanos & Warlock God!

On Panel only the LT was depicted as being above the IG.

On Panel both the LT & IG wielding Warlock stated
that the LT represents "Forces/One" who is above God.

Marvel.com (IG bio) also states that the IG grants "absolute omnipotence

Jim Starlin himself states (Marvel Age interview) that the IG was a story about becoming God!

--- so, it doesn't take a genius to surmise ... IG makes one God beneath the LT.

And only because the LT was representing TOAA's power.

swank

Originally posted by fangirl101

First let's get some things str8. You said that marvel states that only someone empowered by TOAA can defeat the IG. False Hood. marvel never states that and no where did I read that.

"falsehood" huh ... durznuts

Originally posted by fangirl101

Jim Starlin can state what ever he likes.
But in the end,
Thanos never became God
because he became even more powerful later on in another story.

Right, Thanos became "he who is above Gods" (TOAA)

Originally posted by fangirl101

There are many levels of power between the IG and the heart.

And more power even abovet he heart.

Present day Hierarchy goes like this:

TOAA (representational avatars of the writers/artists)
THOTI (what TOAA's power would be withIN the Omniverse/IN-Story confinement)
LT (representative of TOAA)
IG (God)

Originally posted by fangirl101

Status has nothing to do with beating an Ig wielder. One only has to have better feats and more power to defeat it. Your analogy fails to change my mind. I haven't seen one thing from marvel that backs up what you want to be.

Until you can show me scans stating exactly what you first stated, There is no need to post any longer.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Until you can show me scans stating exactly what you first stated,

There is no need to post any longer.

On Panel: (IG makes the wielder GOD!)

Thanos, ... "In-effect became God"

..........................................................................................

Jim Starlin himself confirms this:

"I've done the good side of God and the bad side of God,
I've gone as far as I can with the Infinity Gauntlet"

.........................................................................

On Panel: (LT represents forces that dwarf God)

Seriously either you're bating me or it's the same ol ... firefirefireph

To be fair, one has to admit that the term God is freely given throughout comic history. Hyperbole is another part of an flawed system that can't work. I think it's pointless to discuss finer details of cosmic powers because comic are incosistent due to the fact that the people writing them change.