Thanos+I.G. vs Your DCU Dirty Dozen

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Originally posted by Mindset
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Originally posted by TricksterPriest

Anybody with better feats can beat the IG. End of story. Mr. M:


Better feats?

(IG) Thanos & Warlock became supreme beings over Reality,
what more do you want?

You can't simply say, better feats = > IG,
when we know Thanos only wanted to own the hierarchy & replace Eternity,
and Warlock didn't want anything.

As for better feats:

4 Gems (power/soul/mind/space) nearly collapsed the Omniverse,
after they were creating UniverseS back to back & stacking them.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

do you have ANY idea how many times the word "GOD" is used to describe someone's power?


In Marvel comics?

Only 5 characters have become God on the level of the IG.

But I'll submit, other than THOTI which is above,
I'm not sure any of those others are even truly equal to the IG,
but I do know non of them surpass the IG.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

That is by far the worst defense you can come up with.


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Originally posted by TricksterPriest

[B]It gives you vast power, it does not make you GOD.

HOTU was the closest thing to that.


I see, so in that case,
*** email Marvel.com & complain ***

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Infinity_Gauntlet_%28item%29

Powers: "Absolute Omnipotence when the Gems are used altogether"

*** Also email Marvel headquaters and complain ***

Thanos, ... "In-effect became God"

*** Also email Jim Starlin (writer/creator of the IG series) and complain ***

"The Infinity Gauntlet,
a story that dealt with the idea of a nihilist
(Thanos) becoming God"

Jim Starlin himself adds:

"I've done the good side of God and the bad side of God,
I've gone as far as I can with the Infinity Gauntlet
"

+++ HOTI was above God, since the HOTI was TOAA's power. +++

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

There are plenty of people who can beat the IG,
whether you recoqnize it or not.


In Marvel comics?

ONLY the TOAA's representative power is definitely above the IG,
whether you recognize that or not.

Originally posted by Mekrob

Also Mr M, I have a question.

I thought the IG was basically the Supreme Being?


That's correct true debator.
Originally posted by Mekrob

So, how can LT possibly represent forces
that dwarf his might if he represents the Supreme Being?


Well the IG doesn't represent the Supreme Being as in TOAA,
IG represents the Supreme Being created for Omniversal reality,
and it was TOAA that created the Omniverse and its "Supreme Being"
on a piece of paper with a pencil.

So any Supreme Being power is not just below,
but completely insignificant to TOAA,
since it's TOAA themselves that create Supremacy with the stroke of a pencil.

LT,
just happens to be TOAA's voice (representative power)
concerning the in-story omniverse. (Marvelverse)

The true Supreme Being is TOAA,
the IG's and even THOTI's Supreme Being status,
is nothing but an allowance by TOAA, but let's not mistake ourselves,
the THOTI and even the IG DID in fact make its wielders God/Supreme over the Marvelverse,
at different levels obviously but still Supreme.

LT is outside this notion of "Supremacy,"
since the LT operates with strict protocol, and carries out the wishes of TOAA.

Originally posted by Mekrob

And how can he represent forces that dwarf his might if the IG is God?


Because those forces (TOAA's power) are above God:

I'm sorry, but I laffed heartily.

So, there's no point in calling the IG God when it obviously isn't, when in your own words God... or TOAA created the Supreme Being? It's a title with no power significance. Can we just start saying that he's above everyone minus LT, instead of adding titles to him? Otherwise, we have people like Sise-Neg, Jaspers, GG, etc all being God, and making the title of God mean nothing except something to argue about.

And what's the difference between God and TOAA, since you don't want to call him God? I mean, iirc, even Jack Kirby called himself God (since you addressed that with your pencil statement), and the God who revealed himself to Spider-Man, called himself God. Same guy, no?

As well as the last panel not meaning much since it only addresses the people who call themselves Gods, not God... s themselves (unless there's a bunch of creators of the 'omniverse' running around, being all biblical).

Also curiosity stikes:
Was your explanation ever stated in Marvel canon?

As well as, what level of God was Norman Osborn on?

Master ur defense of the ig is a joke. How can it be absolutely omnipotent when strange briefly stalemated it and the lt is above it. Amd the lt isn't wven absolutley omnipotent.just stop urself. U don't wanna look look like a rabid fanboy do you?

Lulz.

Just .. lulz.

I don't see the problem with the defense of the IG. I mean, if the IG is the power of god to control the omniverse, is still not the whole power of god.

The LT itself is above the omniverse, so the power of god to control the omniverse would be beneath him. In the same way TOAA and THOTU would be above the IG too. From inside the omniverse however, it would be about the same thing.

Originally posted by Bentley
I don't see the problem with the defense of the IG. I mean, if the IG is the power of god to control the omniverse, is still not the whole power of god.

The LT itself is above the omniverse, so the power of god to control the omniverse would be beneath him. In the same way TOAA and THOTU would be above the IG too. From inside the omniverse however, it would be about the same thing.

lulz. Now be a dear and show me a scan of tge ig not the gems controllong or destroying or making the onmiverse. Not omni reality or any of that crap. The omniverse.

One Questione, when the IG first appeared, was the Marvel Multiverse an omniverse? I mean whas an comic beofre the one with the IG where the Marvel-U was named Omniverse?

Originally posted by quanchi112
This isn't mxy from one arc by the way.
Mxy has destroyed the whole of DC's creation, and owned Spectre, on more than one occasion. You choosing to ignore those instances isn't really a concern of mine..

Ohh and before you even start, I have already addressed what you call Mxy's 'low showings' in other threads. Thoroughly. That said, there is no reason for me to go into them here.

Anyhow, I will respectfully ignore any further posts from you, regarding this topic. 🙂

Originally posted by Mekrob
As well as, what level of God was Norman Osborn on?
'Level of God'

Spoiler:
crylaugh0

Originally posted by fangirl101
Master ur defense of the ig is a joke. How can it be absolutely omnipotent when strange briefly stalemated it and the lt is above it. Amd the lt isn't wven absolutley omnipotent.just stop urself. U don't wanna look look like a rabid fanboy do you?
So by putting up scans, bios, writer interviews that is a joke? I thought it was evidence while you try as hard as you can to discredit it with nothing but your words.

Originally posted by Galan007
Mxy has destroyed the whole of DC's creation, and owned Spectre, on more than one occasion. You choosing to ignore those instances isn't really a concern of mine..

Ohh and before you even start, I have already addressed what you call Mxy's 'low showings' in other threads. Thoroughly. That said, there is no reason for me to go into them here.

Anyhow, I will respectfully ignore any further posts from you, regarding this topic. 🙂

'Level of God'

Spoiler:
crylaugh0
By owning the spectre do you mean placing in a cage? What other times has he owned the spectre? When the spectre came for him in dov who got owned?

Mxy has more than a few showings is my point. You can try to forget about him being defeated by far less than the ig to sell this argument if you want to.

The ig easily defeated all of the abstracts assembled to stop it like nothing. Show me a comparable battle feat of Mxy's to compare to this.

Originally posted by quanchi112
By owning the spectre do you mean placing in a cage? What other times has he owned the spectre?
EJ actually replaced the Spectre before imprisoning him in a birdcage. That is ownage to the nth degree.

Also, Mxy owned Spectre several times during WF.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When the spectre came for him in dov who got owned?
😂

1.) Spectre never 'came for Mxy' during DoV.

2.) Mxy wasn't fully depowered. Hell, all he had to do was return to the 5th-d, and *poof* he was back at full power.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Show me a comparable battle feat of Mxy's to compare to this.
See Emperor Joker, and/or World's Funnest.

Originally posted by Galan007
EJ actually replaced the Spectre before imprisoning him in a birdcage. That is ownage to the nth degree.

Also, Mxy owned Spectre several times during WF.

😂

1.) Spectre never 'came for Mxy' during DoV.

2.) Mxy wasn't fully depowered. Hell, all he had to do was return to the 5th-d, and *poof* he was back at full power.

See Emperor Joker, and/or World's Funnest.

I seem to remember though had the spectre left the cage that he would have wrecked reality. In a forum battle he wouldn't have that to worry about.

How did Mxy own the Spectre?

Mxy owning the Spectre only proves the ig could easily do that as well by the way. Ig can do whatever the ig user wishes it to do.

1. Spectre rendered mxy irrelevant and the point is if he leaves for the fifth dimension he loses the matchup. Prime snatched him up from the fifth dimension and with Anntaz's help depowered him and sapped his will.

You know the ig can do this with but a thought. You cannot however do this to an ig user.

Originally posted by Galan007
EJ actually replaced the Spectre before imprisoning him in a birdcage. That is ownage to the nth degree.

Also, Mxy owned Spectre several times during WF.

😂

1.) Spectre never 'came for Mxy' during DoV.

2.) Mxy wasn't fully depowered. Hell, all he had to do was return to the 5th-d, and *poof* he was back at full power.

See Emperor Joker, and/or World's Funnest.

Y do you bother?

Originally posted by quanchi112
How did Mxy own the Spectre?
By owning him? A number of ways?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Mxy owning the Spectre only proves the ig could easily do that as well by the way. Ig can do whatever the ig user wishes it to do.

1. Spectre rendered mxy irrelevant and the point is if he leaves for the fifth dimension he loses the matchup. Prime snatched him up from the fifth dimension and with Anntaz's help depowered him and sapped his will.

You know the ig can do this with but a thought. You cannot however do this to an ig user.

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Originally posted by fangirl101
lulz. Now be a dear and show me a scan of tge ig not the gems controllong or destroying or making the onmiverse. Not omni reality or any of that crap. The omniverse.

Why did you put that "not the gems" clause there? Do you think that the Guantlet is weaker than the gems? Do you understand how it works?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Y do you bother?
Because I'm an idiot. 🙁