Originally posted by BentleyMulti-Eternity is the sum of all creation.
The IG has the potential to destroy it.
Originally posted by Galan0071.) Ultimator = the sum total of ALL creation, more or less. Not being able to outright own something like that certainly isn't a low showing by any stretch of the word.
IG curbstomped Eternity in one move.
Eternity = the sum total of everything on all levels of creation.
Originally posted by Galan007Thanos only took over a universe with the IG. Nothing more.
Not gonna credit him with something he never came close to doing.
616 Eternity = the power of all space/time in Marvel.
(sometimes accompanied by Infinity, sometimes it's just Eternity)
in fact, Eternity has the power to destroy or create all Universes in Marvel,
in fact,
it is withIN Eternity that the death/birth of all Universes takes place on a daily basis.
Originally posted by Mr MasterNope. Mxy beat Ultimator. 🙂
So the IG succeeded where Mxy failed in direct combat.
Originally posted by Mr MasterAhh, so this is another one of those ever so convenient instances where, despite the fact that a singular universe was heavily alluded to, the writers really meant every universe in Marvel, but just left it up to the readers to dig through separate arcs and figure it out? I'm shocked you'd say that (not really.)
616 Eternity = the power of all space/time in Marvel.
(sometimes accompanied by Infinity, sometimes it's just Eternity)
in fact, Eternity has the power to destroy or create all Universes in Marvel,
in fact,
it is withIN Eternity that the death/birth of all Universes takes place on a daily basis.
Anyhow, before Eternity and Thanos battled, Eternity stated that the battle was for control of "this" reality:
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After they battled, and Thanos replaced Eternity, the Watcher stated..
"Thanos has now thoroughly usurped Eternity's rightful position as the center of all realty in this sphere.."
"This Watcher can now conclude that a valiant effort to save this plane of existence has failed":
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But earlier in the saga the writers had no problem with just flat out having him say "ALL UniverseS" when speachifying on the IG's potential:
Yet the above instance (where a universe is all that's really mentioned) is for some reason an exception - in which every universe in Marvel is what the writers really intended? Typo, I guess.
But srsly, why did I just post that? Like it's actually going to make you not argue? lulz @ me.
Originally posted by Galan007Nope. Mxy beat Ultimator.
(excerpt from that DC Universe Handbook)
I don't really know, perhaps you could enlighten me.
Originally posted by Galan007Ahh, so this is another one of those ever so convenient instances where, despite the fact that a singular universe was heavily alluded to, the writers really meant every universe in Marvel, but just left it up to the readers to dig through separate arcs and figure it out? I'm shocked you'd say that (not really.)
I never said Thanos was fighting all Universes, LOL! ...
where'd you get that from?
I clearly said he was fighting 616 Eternity:
Originally posted by Mr Master616 Eternity = the power of all space/time in Marvel.
(sometimes accompanied by Infinity, sometimes it's just Eternity)
Now, what was it I said about 616 Eternity?
Below:
Originally posted by Mr Masterin fact, Eternity has the power to destroy or create all Universes in Marvel
"Eternity ... withIN it, ALL that Ever Was, Ever Is, or Ever Will Be exists"
Roma didn't say "multi" Eternity, EternityS, Omni-Eternity,
she simply said Eternity,
that's because she's referring to 616 Eternity where Abraxas is at.
Roma knows what it means to be all that ever was, ever is, or ever will be is,
because Roma surveys the entire Omniverse from her Starlight Citadel ...
"from this venue, the Guardian of Reality can view events on every Plane of the Omniverse"
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Meh, Dr Strange also said 616 Eternity is:
"You don't understand?
Eternity IS A GOD!
He is ... the complete embodiment of everyone and everything ...
... on all levels of Creation"
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Dr Strange would also know what he's talking about,
I remember Strange met up with 616 Eternity back in the day,
and even then 616 Eternity was:
"Eternity is Time incarnated ...
When he raises a Hand which holds whole universeS withIN it,
Past Present and Future"
... wow ...
Well, this post is getting long,
so I'll continue in the next post.
So there buddy, I also said about 616 Eternity:
Originally posted by Mr Masterin fact,
it is withIN Eternity that the death/birth of all Universes takes place on a daily basis.
Dormy transcends from the Dimension of Manifestations, into the 616 Reality.
What is the power of 616 Eternity that he witnessed?
"Wolds within Worlds, Dimensions folding into themselves,
Entire UniverseS being born, and collapsing into ruin,
and yet I sense that ALL This -- is but a fraction of what Eternity is,
the core, the Heart of Eternity's being ... here All Energy, All Matter, lies,
I will detonate Eternity's Heart --- triggering another Creation event,
Re-Birthing every being and thing in All the UniverseS"
... hmm, so I guess you see what I mean.
It is withIN 616 Eternity that this power/connection to all reality lies,
so when Thanos battled 616 Eternity,
he battled the same being that in one hand "holds entire Universes"
he battled the same being who withIN "all that ever was, ever is, or ever will be exists."
he battled the same being that is "the complete embodiment of everyone and everything ...
... on All levels of Creation"
... So, I'm hoping now you understand what/who 616 Eternity is. 🙂
... more down below.
Also,
I noticed the sarcasm and confidence when you thought you had something,
but once again we learn as we go, and I'm happy for all who do.
So on with the rest of your posts,
which can now be easily replied to with the references above.
Originally posted by Galan007Anyhow, before Eternity and Thanos battled,
Eternity stated that the battle was for control of "this" reality:
Originally posted by Galan007After they battled, and Thanos replaced Eternity, the Watcher stated..
"Thanos has now thoroughly usurped Eternity's rightful position as the center of all realty in this sphere.."
"This Watcher can now conclude that a valiant effort to save this plane of existence has failed":
Originally posted by Galan007But earlier in the saga the writers had no problem with just flat out having him say "ALL UniverseS" when speachifying on the IG's potential:
That means he was above "the unchallenged lord of all there is"
Well .. according to the Living Tribunal anyway.
btw, And it's because 616 Eternity is supreme over the 616 reality.
Originally posted by Galan007Yet the above instance (where a universe is all that's really mentioned) is for some reason an exception - in which every universe in Marvel is what the writers really intended? Typo, I guess.
But srsly, why did I just post that?
Like it's actually going to make you not argue? lulz @ me.
But the snide sarcasm aside, cool little debate there buddy. stoned
Originally posted by Mr MasterMxy beat Ultimator by trapping her within a comic that he created.
Wasn't he running for his life when the Ultimator was gonna eat him?(excerpt from that DC Universe Handbook)
I don't really know, perhaps you could enlighten me.
As for the rest.... Didn't even look at it. Sorry. srsly
Originally posted by Galan007Mxy beat Ultimator by trapping her within a comic that he created.
Originally posted by Galan007As for the rest.... Didn't even look at it. Sorry.
Everything presented is on panel and 100% canon.
(as in the stories being reference in official handbooks) 👆
Originally posted by Galan007You really didn't have to look. It's stuff that's been posted pretty much in the same order over and over and over and over and over again. As if repeat posting is going to some how make independant stories form a coherent theory supported by marvel, when one marevl has never stated that The IG makes one God over the LT, and Two, that Eternity is the omniverse. Untrue since The beyond wrealm was outside of eternity and eternity was stated as a multiverse.
Mxy beat Ultimator by trapping her within a comic that he created.As for the rest.... Didn't even look at it. Sorry. srsly
Originally posted by fangirl101
when one marevl has never stated that The IG makes one God over the LT,
While that is true, it's also true that the two are comparable in power. The LT, who is omniscient, was unsure of whether or not he'd be able to take the gauntlet by force.
Originally posted by fangirl101
and Two, that Eternity is the omniverse. Untrue since The beyond wrealm was outside of eternity and eternity was stated as a multiverse.
You're using DC's cosmological explanations to explain Marvel's. The Beyond Realm is outside of the Marvel Universe/omniverse. Just like Oblivion and the cosmic anchor are. Just because they're in a Marvel comic book doesn't mean they're actually inside Marvel's omniverse. Sort of confusing, possibly, but true.
Originally posted by EnyalusWhat's the cap on power here? I see some people saying Yahweh, Elaine Belloc, GEB, etc...all of whom are pretty much Supreme Beings.
If it's just anyone, then yeah Thanos goes down hard.
Is Yahweh = to or > than Elaine?
If he's still above her,
why can't TOAA also draw a supreme being in his Marvel Omniverse?
I mean, that's what the IG is, supreme power given to no-bodies by the creator,
but with one protector, more like a safety net, in case the no-body loses control,
that's where the LT comes in,
who had to be directly empowered by TOAA in order to deal with the IG.
The LT said he was "representing forces" when he nullified Warlock's attack.
Or the GEB being a counterpart ...
just saying there are multiple supreme beings in this one omniverse,
and Marvel just happens to be sorta the same.
Just a thought, what do you think Eny?
