Morbius vs. Daken

Started by KingD194 pages

The simple fact of the matter is, Wolverine's senses are either on the same level, or more advanced than Morbius's, Daken deceived them so well Wolverine thought he had super speed. Also, his claws are capable of slicing through flesh and bone with ease. And, Morbius can regenerate from things like gunshots and puncture wounds given a few hours, but if Daken gets an arm or leg, which is a high probability considering his powers, then Morbius lost, since he can't regenerate limbs.

Actually Morbius' healng factor is far faster acting than that. It works on a level comparative to Wolverine's to be quite honest.

I thought I read somewhere that he can't grow back limbs. Well I could be wrong, but you've still got to think about that Pheromone Control. He could make you think he dissapeared while he's gutting you.

Originally posted by jinzin
5 more times and go for his thraot.....
Okay that's just asinign ranting on your part.
Deadpool played his hand and both his arms were occupied while attacking Wolverine, Wolverine fought back.
Wolverine played his hand and had Deadpool pinned to the ground, coughing up blood, had a free hand poised to strike and simply didn't to talk for whole paragraphs before DP got up....
there's a mass difference between the two.
Deadpool was behind Wolverine holding one of his hand while with the other he cut Wolverine in between his ribs. Wade had it all under control. So yes, Deadpool was in a perfect position to keep attacking but didn't in order to chat. And there was nothing Wolverine could've done about it. On the other hand while Deadpool was on the ground and Wolverine raised his hand above him you make it sound like Deadpool was helpless. If it was the case he wouldn't have escaped so easy in the next pannel. And the fact that Wolverine stopped to talk doesn't change anything.

Originally posted by jinzin

I didn't dispute that DP outperformed him I even stated that he did.. But he still lost.
Deadpool won the FIGHT. Wolverine was down and couldn't get up. Who attacked whom after doesn't matter as long as we're discussing fighting skills.

Originally posted by jinzin

Uh no... You need to read that again. Wolverine is trying to bring DP's attention to the werewolf in the same panel he's getting stabbed.. He's trying to warn pool about the thing while there's still motion lines behind the sword's hilt.. he was fully aware of the werewolf by the time he got stabbed... and it isn't even the same as he wasn't disarmed and helplessly pinned against the wall.. he even starts his assault pretty much immediately after that using the same sword no less.
I don't really need to read it again since ive read it before making the previous post. The pannel makes it clear that Wolverine starts talking AFTER he gets stabbed. Again, the whole he-couldn't-dodge-because-he-got-distracted thing is purely an assumption that can't be supported with anything.
Originally posted by jinzin

then you don't know. Because it's notorious against them.
He didn't need to. He already stated it. Your contention is that he was fixed minutes later and it's an irrational one to have.

Really? Because Deadpool (whose HF is simillar to Wolverine's) demonstrated that effect of poisons or toxins do not last longer than few minutes. And while its true that Wolverine was dizzy for a while after he woke up the effect was gone by the time he faced Deadpool (and that was A LOT of time for a guy with healing factor), nothing suggests that he was weak or couldn't concentrate. Deadpool just outfought him that time, its a fact.

Originally posted by jinzin

It's a well known fact that they're friends.. funny given the fact that they went drinking right after the werewolf incident.
I remember that, its not really known if they've made it to the bar and if Deadpool actualloy bought Logan a beer as Logan made him promise, but I still wouldn't call them friends. Not even buddies.
Originally posted by jinzin

At the end of the confrontation? Yeah color me impressed.

Yeah if Deadpool comes gunning for him again, because he's done it about half a dozen times now. 😬

Wolverine promised to cut Deadpool into pieces and eat him. He knows Deadpool is not the kind of person who'd get intimidated, so it wasn't an empty threat. More like a promise. Its not like Wolverine EVER makes empty threats...

Originally posted by jinzin

Based on what, because DP's insinuation was quite the opposite. I don't think i ever stated he wasn't. 😕
Based on Wolverine's own words that he's gonna give him one last chance which we both know Deadpool didn't take. So yeah, the whole charging at Deadpool and saying "RRRRRRRRR!" Kind of suggests that Wolverine stopped holding back after Deadpool punched him in the face after Wolverine gave him the chance to back off.

Originally posted by jinzin

No it doesn't.
Wolverine gutted pool while thrashing his arm, smacked him in the head with an open hand, and tore his ribs/back before Pool even got his first attack in.
So if that's a display of skill it certainly doesn't help DP's case.
YES. That's what's clearly dictated by the story.

Um... actually Wolverine slashed his cloth, I dont see any blood there, the worst case Deadpool got cut a little, that is if he got cut at all. Hardly a mortal wound. After that happened Deadpool hit Wolverine in the head and kicked him in the face. Wolverine kicked Wade too but it turned out that Deadpool set him up for that kick and gutted him afterwards, so YES. That's a great display of skill. 😕

Originally posted by jinzin

He isn't though..
He has a long running history of being disarmed and pinned down by Logan.. They might be close but they're definitely not the same. 😬
Their fights suggest that they are.😬

Originally posted by SamZED
Deadpool was behind Wolverine holding one of his hand while with the other he cut Wolverine in between his ribs. Wade had it all under control.
😱 YEAH! SOOOOO in control infact, that he got tackled through a window, pinned, stabbed in the chest, choughing up blood while Wolverine had another bomb to still drop on him in the very next panels of the fight... WOWZA!

As I said.

It's the difference between a simple exchange of blows and a knock-down in any given fight.. It's as easy to see as the difference between vertical and horizontal quite literally.. If you can't grasp that, then you are clearly beyond reasoning. 😐

Originally posted by SamZED
So yes, Deadpool was in a perfect position to keep attacking but didn't in order to chat.
Uh no.. Both his arms were occupied Wolverine still had one free for a counter attack.. which is exactly what followed... next.

Originally posted by SamZED
And there was nothing Wolverine could've done about it.

Oh is that why Deadpool >>>>>> " got tackled through a window, pinned, stabbed in the chest, choughing up blood while Wolverine had another bomb to still drop on him in the very next panels of the fight?" 🙄

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Originally posted by SamZED
On the other hand while Deadpool was on the ground and Wolverine raised his hand above him you make it sound like Deadpool was helpless.

Only if you think me stating that Wolverine had the first position of legitimate advantage roughly translates to "Deadpool's helpless".... Which if this IS indeed the case makes it a lot easier to understand your terrible interpretations of these fights, continuities, and even the relationship between these two characters.... next.

Originally posted by SamZED
If it was the case he wouldn't have escaped so easy in the next pannel. And the fact that Wolverine stopped to talk doesn't change anything.

Ah, so IF Wolverine had used his other hand to strike Deadpool in the chest or the head or anything of the sort instead of talking it wouldn't have made a difference in your opinion....

Way to lose credability at a geometric rate here.. Next.

Originally posted by SamZED
Deadpool won the FIGHT. Wolverine was down and couldn't get up. Who attacked whom after doesn't matter as long as we're discussing fighting skills.

No Deadpool outperformed Wolverine towards the end of that fight he didn't win it....
Of course if you think THIS is winning...

Then it only proves my quickly growing assumptions as to your abilities of interpretation as well as your credability.

Originally posted by SamZED
I don't really need to read it again since ive read it before making the previous post. The pannel makes it clear that Wolverine starts talking AFTER he gets stabbed.

No you need to read it again....

Originally posted by SamZED
Again, the whole he-couldn't-dodge-because-he-got-distracted thing is purely an assumption that can't be supported with anything.

😐
Wolverine necessarily had to be standing up by the time the sword entered his shoulder.
He was facing towards Deadpool.
The werewolf was behind Deadpool.
Wolverine is addressing the werewolf while motion lines are still behind the swords hilt.
Wolverine acknowledges the sword wound mid sentence not before....

Your interpretation lends to Deadpool's sword taking Wolverine from his knees to his feet and a teleporting werewolf with motion lines that don't actually imply motion.......

Your interpretation = 🤨

Originally posted by SamZED
Really? Because Deadpool (whose HF is simillar to Wolverine's) demonstrated that effect of poisons or toxins do not last longer than few minutes. And while its true that Wolverine was dizzy for a while after he woke up the effect was gone by the time he faced Deadpool (and that was A LOT of time for a guy with healing factor), nothing suggests that he was weak or couldn't concentrate. Deadpool just outfought him that time, its a fact.

For one who wants to talk about assumptions..
The Administrator knew exactly what it would take to take Wolverine out of the fight.. that's a fact.
Deadpool stated that Wolverine was hit with enough sedative to drop a T-rex. That's a fact.
The tranqs that hit Wolverine effected him to a point that had him unconcious long enough to transport him all the way to The Watchtower, fact.
When Wolverine woke up he was still effected by the drugs on a massive level, fact.
After Wolverine made his escape attempt he had a long introductory conversation with the Administrator, and was beat down, then we had a transition scene to Deadpool, THEN we see that they had enough time to bind Wolverine, hang him upside down and stick him in another room. 'Nother fact.
After ALL THAT when his rescue showed up Wolverine is STILL saying he wants to sit this one out, lie down and get better....
Wolverine was shot with tranqs in the morning and still effected by them by nightime.... FACT.

Now your ASSUMPTION is that Wolverine who was KOed for a long period of time, woke up still effected, subdued again and still effected, rescued and still effected by the tranqs..... was effected quite literally from sunrise to sunset... somehow instantaniously got better MAYBE 5 minutes later as soon as he fought Deadpool? uuuuuh huh....

Like I said, your interpretation = 🤨

Originally posted by SamZED
I remember that, its not really known if they've made it to the bar and if Deadpool actualloy bought Logan a beer as Logan made him promise, but I still wouldn't call them friends. Not even buddies.
😂 So now they didn't even go drinking when they walked out a door arms around eachothers shoulders....

oooook

You ARE aware that Wolverine has saved Deadpool from Weapon X, and Deadpool as helped Wolverine with new Weapon X? Wolverine was bumbed out at DP's funeral. Even in the previously mentioned issues, Wolverine gives displays of empathy and friendship with Wade.
God damn even in the new animated film they breifly address that they're pals on some disfunctunal level.

You can't argue that they have a relationship, regardless of how absurd or ridiculous hostile or illogical that relationship may be.

Originally posted by SamZED
Wolverine promised to cut Deadpool into pieces and eat him. He knows Deadpool is not the kind of person who'd get intimidated, so it wasn't an empty threat. More like a promise. Its not like Wolverine EVER makes empty threats...

Yeah, if Deadpool comes after him again (didn't I just explain that part to you?)... He didn't say, "the next time I see you" or anything of that sort, he implied that he'd react in turn to DP's aggression..... so I fail to see how you think the context doesn't make a difference... although I probably shouldn't given what you've argued here already.

Originally posted by SamZED
Based on Wolverine's own words that he's gonna give him one last chance which we both know Deadpool didn't take. So yeah, the whole charging at Deadpool and saying "RRRRRRRRR!" Kind of suggests that Wolverine stopped holding back after Deadpool punched him in the face after Wolverine gave him the chance to back off.

Okay you're talking about the first fight they had during that arc not the second.
It doesn't matter. Deadpool stated that Wolverine was holding back during the second fight, Wolverine proved it in the first and when he did charge Deadpool with an RRRRRR! It was after he retracted his ****ing claws.. go figure.

Originally posted by SamZED
Um... actually Wolverine slashed his cloth, I dont see any blood there, the worst case Deadpool got cut a little, that is if he got cut at all. Hardly a mortal wound. After that happened Deadpool hit Wolverine in the head and kicked him in the face. Wolverine kicked Wade too but it turned out that Deadpool set him up for that kick and gutted him afterwards, so YES. That's a great display of skill. 😕

Um actually, Deadpool's shown with a wide eye, while dropping his gun (I know he just wanted to display his hand to hand skills instead huh 😱 ), WHILE Wolverine's making enuendoes about DP feeling it in his guts, followed by Deadpool stating that it hurt, making MORE enuendoes about Wolverine cutting him but assuring that he has a healing factor.....

Oh but Wolverine just ripped his clothing huh?
The following two panels have contact FX that display hits landing...

Funny there wasn't any clear blood when Wolverine got stabbed, he must not have been stabbed. 🙄

And DP never hit Wolverine in the head before the kick, it was quite the opposite.

Deadpool being hit three times; one in the guts, and one in the head, before even landing a blow is NOT a great display of skill. 😐
Needing to bait a healing factorless Wolverine, and sacrificing his face to get the KO shot, is NOT a great display of skill.....

But then again, I AM talking to the kid who thinks that Wolverine's nonworking HF is a point of contention in the same issue even though it's stated by Wolverine, Deadpool, and demonstrated on panel....

It has become quite clear how you've deluded yourself into thinking Wolverine and DP are on the same level of melee combat..... but... they aren't...

Well maybe YOUR version is.. but then again...
SamZED's Deadpool is truly impressive indeed.

Originally posted by SamZED
Their fights suggest that they are.😬
clearly...

Deadpool owns Wolverine

FOH

Ummmm, last time I checked, the was a.... Morbius vs Daken thread, not DP vs Wolverine. Just saying you guys are a bit off topic.

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NUH-UH!

And... FOH? 😕

Front of theatre?