Originally posted by Master Han
Or the fact that Prime has ripped apart metal transformers?
Or the fact that Prime can still use his weapons at close range?
If not blind, decapitated or armless
Or the fact that Prime would see Kong coming from a distance?
Or the fact that [b]the thread isn't limited to H2H? [/B]
And doesn't prohibit Kong ambushing, from round corners, bushes/trees/buildings/natural formations he does like to get above, sneaking up then jumping down on and f**king his prey up utterly. Prime is prone to being caught unawares.
Originally posted by Master Han
Ever heard of occam's razor? Or are you just trying to be as much of a sophistic ass as possible?
Yes, I have. Considering giving weapons to Prime, a great starting distance and insisting Kong not attack at first (three things you tried to dictate 🙂 ) would equate to what is known as a spite-thread against Kong. Occam's dictates the OP had intended this to be a H2H fight, where the winner isn't obviously clear via stomp.
True. Rather than overly elaborate "Prime must have trailer, range, full weapons, and nenver miss and must be able to see Kong, but Kong must have no time to react and Kong must be this and that" and "little putt putt rounds have magically the same stopping power as heavy cal rounds fired by oncoming planes" etc
Occam's definitely doesn't like all that shit. 😮💨
I'll humor you.
Originally posted by Robtard
Considering I've held that Prime has the advantage here since page 1, what exactly am I "winning" for Kong?
Because you've played Kong-apologist in an all-out contest, only to conveniently drop all these lines of contention when they don't go your way.
For example, you continuously bring up my "rigging" the match in Prime's favor by pointing out Kong's limited intellect, and used Prime's merciful character as an analogy. You fail in two areas:
1. I already suspended the contention for the sake of argument
2. I explained the difference between voluntary, conditional inhibitions and an inherent lack of intelligence
You ignore these two contentions and just restate your original accusation without any modification.
I also pointed out that Prime could shoot Kong's head off even at wrestling range, just by moving his arm and hands. ...you literally, again, ignore this argument.
There are several other points of discussion that you dropped, in favor of the least relevant points.
I'm just plowing holes in your silly downplaying, gimping, scripting and "science".
Funny thing is that you never bother to defend your criticisms when I respond to them, but instead delete half of them, and respond to the other half by copy-pasting your original argument without any modification.
Now, feel free to address the points I've made.
Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, I have. Considering giving weapons to Prime, a great starting distance and insisting Kong not attack at first (three things you tried to dictate 🙂
Another example of your horrendous analytical skills. I've explained on half a dozen occasions why these parameters are logical products of Prime's technological assets and tactical abilities, and you respond by ignoring my points and just restating your whining without justification or modification.
It's even more ridiculous, because I, yet again, suspended my contention for the sake of argument and pointed out that Prime would win even at close range.
This doesn't even have to do with your arguments being shit, as much as they are; it has to do with your not even reading mine, or bothering to address them in any cohesive order. It's impossible to debate you; after two or three point-by-point rebuttal volleys, you resort to copy-pasting your points and throwing strawmans indiscriminately.
Originally posted by Master Han
Another example of your horrendous analytical skills. I've explained on half a dozen occasions why these parameters are logical products of Prime's technological assets and tactical abilities, and you respond by [b]ignoring my points and just restating your whining without justification or modification.It's even more ridiculous, because I, yet again, suspended my contention for the sake of argument and pointed out that Prime would win even at close range. [/B]
😂 We're talking about a Vs match, you're just guessing what the OP had in mind as much as I am. But using Occam, it would be a H2H fight and not a clear spite thread.
Cry more as once again something you tried to use is turned against you 🙂
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Thats right. It must be an uber (undefined) modern super tech energon razor from the other side of the galaxy, of course, cause old school razors NEVER cut anyone! 😖hifty:
It's funny that you conveniently ignored my request that you produce evidence of Kong's strength.
Originally posted by Robtard
😂 We're talking about a Vs match, you're just guessing what the OP had in mind as much as I am. But using Occam, it would be a H2H fight and not a clear spite thread.
Tell that to Sadako and chumps, who've both maintained that Kong holds a decent shot against an armed Prime.
Tell that to yourself, who has played Kong apologist and argued that he could stand a chance if the starting range is small.
Also note that the OP never made any indication of disagreement when everyone started bringing in weapons.
Originally posted by Robtard
the OP had intended this to be a H2H fight, where the winner isn't obviously clear via stomp.
The OP should have put that down then. But he didn't. He didn't even hint at it. Thus,we're going with the default modes of the characters, which means that Optimus gets his weapons and thus Kong dies.
why are we even still debating this?
Originally posted by Lestov16
The OP should have put that down then. But he didn't. He didn't even hint at it. Thus,we're going with the default modes of the characters, which means that Optimus gets his weapons and thus Kong dies.why are we even still debating this?
Because going unspecified, and using that to free constraints you get possibilities that its Godzilla Kong or 70s Kong and Prime is absolutely screwed beyond comprehension?
Live by the energon sword, die by the energon sword (or giant Silverback).
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
The fact that he is 20-50 tonnes and leaps around like a lunatic all day every day is your first clue. Unlike the 15-17 tonne Prime.
A better clue would be to post video evidence of Kong's ripping metal, which was the point of discussion. But you're clearly too lazy to do that.