Optimus Prime vs. King Kong

Started by Sadako of Girth36 pages

Yes it'd be a form of win only the pansiest and most moronic would take pleasure in pointing out.

But H2H range Kong (especially 76 Kong) would most likely win anyway.

But 2005 Kong most likely mutilates Prime at close range most likely (even mid range if he starts slinging things at Prime including faeces in the eyes) and victory sexes the remains. This is why the little girls here cry about it.

Seriously, it's like Robtard's responses are totally disconnected from reality. He looks at five contentions and responds to half of one, and then refuses to argue anything until he "wins" the least relevant argument you could possibly imagine.

Nobody cares about H2H. Prime is always armed. Perhaps Lestov, me and everyone supporting Prime (read: everyone but you three) can start talking about how much smarter than Kong Prime is, and how much more colorful he appears.

Originally posted by Robtard
You two failed to substantiate your position of Prime winning always/everytime,

You are a liar.

I have made it clear on multiple occasions that Prime wins the vast majority of cases.

This isn't a point in contention; I can post my quotes, if you wish.

Except when he is armless when a Giant silverback rips them off, of course. Or uses a train to smash him to pieces. Among the other scenarios pointed out that you have cried about and/or ignored.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Except when he is armless when a Giant silverback rips them off, of course. Or uses a train to smash him to pieces.

You already conceded the debate, lol. You said on more than one occasion that an armed Prime "most likely" (your own words) wins, and Kong only makes it if Prime misses.

Originally posted by Master Han
Seriously, it's like Robtard's responses are totally disconnected from reality. He looks at five contentions and responds to half of one, and then refuses to argue anything until he "wins" the least relevant argument you could possibly imagine.

Nobody cares about H2H. Prime is always armed. Perhaps Lestov, me and everyone supporting Prime (read: everyone but you three) can start talking about how much smarter than Kong Prime is, and how much more colorful he appears.

Nice trolling, accusing me of your tactics 🙂

Considering I've held that Prime has the advantage here since page 1, what exactly am I "winning" for Kong? I'm just plowing holes in your silly downplaying, gimping, scripting and "science".

Um, no. I'll admit Kong has a chance if it is a closed-arena H2H deathmatch with no weapons, but that's not what the thread scenario is. The thread scenario, made by the OP, allows Prime all of his weapons. That's not me or Han trying to rewrite the thread. That's how the thread originally was. and that's the circumstances we will debate the thread under. Hypothetically, as stated, Kong could win a H2H match, but that's not what the OP wanted debated here.

You cant say what it does or doesnt specify. There is nothing specifying what you say in the OP.

Originally posted by Robtard
Nice trolling, accusing me of your tactics 🙂

Notice how you fail to actually address any of my arguments, or elaborate on how I use the tactics I accuse you of?

Notice how you never bother to rigorously address opposing contentions and actually formulate a cohesive, encompassing argument?

You are utterly outmatched here. Just give up.

Originally posted by Master Han
Notice how you fail to actually address any of my arguments, or elaborate on how I use the tactics I accuse you of?

Notice how you never bother to rigorously address opposing contentions and actually formulate a cohesive, encompassing argument?

You are utterly outmatched here. Just give up.

The one thing I did notice, you edited out this:

Originally posted by Robtard
Considering I've held that Prime has the advantage here since page 1, what exactly am I "winning" for Kong? I'm just plowing holes in your silly downplaying, gimping, scripting and "science".

But you needed to cherry-pick my response to continue trolling and accusing me of your poor tactics 🙂 You do this a lot.

Originally posted by Robtard
Considering I've held that Prime has the advantage here since page 1, what exactly am I "winning" for Kong? I'm just plowing holes in your silly downplaying, gimping, scripting and "science".

Except that, when I respond to your criticisms, you refuse to defend them in a cohesive manner, but instead cherry pick arguments, and then copy-paste catchphrases when I point out the flaw in your rebuttals.

Like, I explained the difference between Prime's character inhibitions and Kong's limited sentience, and you...just restated your contention, without bothering to address my point.

Or when you literally ignored my point about Prime's ripping metal transformers.

Its you who're outmatched, Han. By grace, style, content, class, facts and others who don't willfully ignore evidence like you have all the way through the thread as you have as your old account and your current one.

Originally posted by Robtard
But you need that to continue trolling and accusing me of your poor tactics 🙂 [/B]

You edited that in after I pressed quote, dipshit.

Now, would you like to address my point about the difference between character inhibitions and intelligence?
Or the fact that Prime has ripped apart metal transformers?
Or the fact that Prime can still use his weapons at close range?
Or the fact that Prime would see Kong coming from a distance?
Or the fact that the thread isn't limited to H2H?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
You cant say what it does or doesnt specify. There is nothing specifying what you say in the OP.

Nothing specifying what you say in the OP either. Optimus getting his weapons is default until stated otherwise, not the other way around.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Um, no. I'll admit Kong has a chance if it is a closed-arena H2H deathmatch with no weapons, but that's not what the thread scenario is.

The thread scenario, made by the OP, allows Prime all of his weapons. That's not me or Han trying to rewrite the thread. That's how the thread originally was. and that's the circumstances we will debate the thread under. Hypothetically, as stated, Kong could win a H2H match, but that's not what the OP wanted debated here.

Well that's at least a sensible start.

The thread is very vague. So who knows what the poster had in mind. Could have been a thumb wrestling match.

Originally posted by Master Han

Or when you literally ignored my point about Prime's ripping metal transformers.

Kong destroys metal things too, even without trying.

But his weight is anywhere between 20 and 50 tonnes at least and Primes being in the mere teens and at the speed he could carry that weight at, plus animalistic destructive urges, thats bad news for Prime again.

Originally posted by Robtard
Well that's at least a sensible start.

The thread is very vague. So who knows what the poster had in mind. Could have been a thumb wrestling match.

Kong wins by severing Prime's thumb and inserting it into Prime's smokestacks..

Originally posted by Robtard
Well that's at least a sensible start.

The thread is very vague. So who knows what the poster had in mind. Could have been a thumb wrestling match.

He didn't specify, which means we go to the default modes of each character, and in Optimus's case, his default mode has weapons, due to them being a part of his body.

Originally posted by Robtard Could have been a thumb wrestling match.

Ever heard of occam's razor? Or are you just trying to be as much of a sophistic ass as possible?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Kong destroys metal things too, even without trying.

Post videos of Kong's best metal tearing feats, and we'll compare them.

Originally posted by Master Han
You edited that in after I pressed quote, dipshit.

Now, would you like to address my point about the difference between character inhibitions and intelligence?
Or the fact that Prime has ripped apart metal transformers?
Or the fact that Prime can still use his weapons at close range?
Or the fact that Prime would see Kong coming from a distance?
Or the fact that [b]the thread isn't limited to H2H?
[/B]

LoL, rage and insults tells me you know you're cornered. I edited to fix a typo, I missed an "i" in "considering".

You're still avoiding what you edited out and insisting I address some already addressed and failed point of yours. Another common troll tactic in the MVF; I've seen it many a time. Quanchi loved it for one.