Wonder Woman vs. Mindless Hulk · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
- You're supposed to be new around here.
- If you go check out Spider-man's fight with Hulk-monster that was composed of 13 mobsters, you'll see a scene almost exactly like that one.

Doesn't spiderman have superspeed to some degree? His reflexes are some where around 40 times a normal person's? So why are we using spiderman. And even then, Spiderman usually punches in an arc, which drawn, can give a very different impression than launching and pulling back and launching repeated attacks. We also know that Spiderman and Wondy both have SS. So the point is moot.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
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Nice attempt at a dodge. I suppose then, it's reasonable for me to assume you posted that scan to prove that Wonderwoman can punch at least as fast as Spiderman does. Fine. I'ma go see if Cap has some blurred effect, squiggly line vibration, opponent-can't-react scans and we'll see if I can now reduce that above scan to a Cap level H2H feat.

You can try all you want. Cap as it is established does NOT have Superspeed. He has Above average reflexes and skill but not Superspeed. Any punches drawn in that matter would probably be relative to someone who was on his level.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

^ That's not the point. You're using that to prove that she can punch at superspeed, without any verifiable frame of reference simply because of the way it's drawn. What everybody is pointing out to you is that any relatively swift character can be illustrated like that and not have superspeed. Therefore, without a verifiable frame of reference, that is, at best, a weak scan of Wonderwoman's superspeed.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ That's not the point.

The point is, Wondy does have SS, and is shown to be able to move her arms that fast. The only point of the scan was to show that she has launched multiple attacks using her speed. We dont' have to know what speed she was attacking since we do know the upper limits of her capacity to swing her arms. Just like we know cap's and Spiderman's. You've lost.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

^ It amuses me that you perceive this to be some sort of contest with me. It's a simple discussion. And you're self-serving reasoning doesn't convince me that the above scan is anything other than a vague illustration of Wonderwoman pummeling an opponent. it could be at Cap's speed or Spiderman's speed or Quicksilver's speed or Flash's speed. On it's own it's a weak scan.

And based on your overall assessment of Thor's superspeed, it's a disingenuous offering of proof. It's proven that Thor can move his arms around at superspeeds and yet I don't see you accepting scans where Thor is shown trapping Quicksilver or entrenching lava in blurs. Maybe I'm being unfair. I don't think I've asked you about them. Since we know Thor can move his arms that fast, are those scans good enough, on their own based on how they're illustrated, for you to hold out to other people as evidence of Thor's superspeed?

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ It amuses me that you perceive this to be some sort of contest with me. It's a simple discussion. And you're self-serving reasoning doesn't convince me that the above scan is anything other than a vague illustration of Wonderwoman pummeling an opponent. it could be at Cap's speed or Spiderman's speed or Quicksilver's speed or Flash's speed. On it's own it's a weak scan.
And based on your overall assessment of Thor's superspeed, it's a disingenuous offering of proof. It's proven that Thor can move his arms around at superspeeds and yet I don't see you accepting scans where Thor is shown trapping Quicksilver or entrenching lava in blurs. Maybe I'm being unfair. I don't think I've asked you about them. Since we know Thor can move his arms that fast, are those scans good enough, on their own based on how they're illustrated, for you to hold out to other people as evidence of Thor's superspeed?

I've already stated that I believe Thor has Superspeed. But we do know that his capacity isn't as high for speed as say QS or Spiderman. It's all about what we already know about the characters that makes the scans important. I know that CA can't move his arms as fast as QS. So I don't need the text to tell me he's not punching at the speed of sound. Logic dictates that.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by fangirl101
I've already stated that I believe Thor has Superspeed. But we do know that his capacity isn't as high for speed as say QS or Spiderman. It's all about what we already know about the characters that makes the scans important. I know that CA can't move his arms as fast as QS. So I don't need the text to tell me he's not punching at the speed of sound. Logic dictates that.

Thor can raise his arms, after a telepathic blast has been fired and is travelling at him and deflect it. Quicksilver can't do that. Correct?

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

Didn't Quicksilver dodge telepathic blasts from Exodus, or am I mis-remembering it ?

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

^ I specifically remember a panel of him geting owned by a telepathic blast by Exodus in Bloodties when he rushes to retrieve Luna when they're all in the sewers in Genosha.

iceman24567 Senior Member

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ I specifically remember a panel of him geting owned by a telepathic blast by Exodus in Bloodties when he rushes to retrieve Luna when they're all in the sewers in Genosha.

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fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Thor can raise his arms, after a telepathic blast has been fired and is travelling at him and deflect it. Quicksilver can't do that. Correct?

And QS can run at 700 mph. Your point? Thor may have Godly senses and reaction times. And enough speed to deflect said blast. But who says he's fast enough to do it repeatedly at rapid fire. Which is something only a speedster could do.

SoulDevourer M0DERAT0R

Originally posted by fangirl101
She's Hurt Konvict, Superman, Doomsday Clone, Amazo, Zoom, Captain Marvel, Captain Nazi, among others and you are saying she cant' hurt him?

ow u mean cause pain? yeah MAYBE (but u know this is mindless hulk right?)
but she cant injure him. if hes pissed enuff even ADAMANTIUM claws cant hurt Hulk so how dyou figure shes gonna hurt him with her fists? ^^
btw Hulk has fought ppl with superspeed before. if he catches her (yeah thats a big IF) shes, uh, screwed

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ I specifically remember a panel of him geting owned by a telepathic blast by Exodus in Bloodties when he rushes to retrieve Luna when they're all in the sewers in Genosha.

I just checked, and it's when Quicksilver was amped by Isotop E and was dodging psionic blasts while fighting Exodus. Nevermind then, go on.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by fangirl101
And QS can run at 700 mph. Your point? Thor may have Godly senses and reaction times. And enough speed to deflect said blast. But who says he's fast enough to do it repeatedly at rapid fire. Which is something only a speedster could do.

My point's been proven. Either way, doing something repeatedly at rapid fire does not govern solely whether someone has superspeed. However, for you: You believe that if someone can move their arms at superspeed, that fact, in and of itself, is enough context to suggest that whenever we see the person attack in a flurry of punches, it must be at superspeeds. Even though it's an isolated instance.

Thus, by your standards: Since we've already determined that Thor can move his arms at superspeeds, if I show you scans of Thor repeatedly pounding on something with Mjolnir in a single panel and that thing is vibrating with squiggly lines, is that enough for you to be convinced that Thor can attack with Mjolnir strikes at superspeeds?

Draco69 Snarky Slytherin

"No weapons, no armour"

Waitaminute.

WW's entire costume is armour.

She has to fight naked?

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Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

Originally posted by Draco69
"No weapons, no armour"
Waitaminute.
WW's entire costume is armour.
She has to fight naked?
😐

She's lucky she isn't fighting Ultimate Hulk.

Kris Blaze Restricted

YOU TELL HULK WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT MEN WHO EAT TOFU!!!

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

^ Loeb needs to die.

SupremeMan Senior Member

Originally posted by Draco69
"No weapons, no armour"
Waitaminute.
WW's entire costume is armour.
She has to fight naked?
😐

This could be more interesting than I thought.

Raoul Hey Yo!

Originally posted by Draco69
"No weapons, no armour"
Waitaminute.
WW's entire costume is armour.
She has to fight naked?
😐

bloody TEASE. GTFO. 🙁

Originally posted by Philosophía
She's lucky she isn't fighting Ultimate Hulk.

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