Originally posted by manx422
HE WINS either way
Well, not if he flies through earth, as the OP stated, the setting of this thread is as follows:
Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Superman Prime...with Guardian amp has invaded Marvel Earth. He's already crippled Latveria and inprisoned Dr. Doom. He's also inprisoned Reed Richards and defeated the X-Men and most of the Avengers. He's also managed to start a war between Dr. Strange and some strange, ugly inter-dimensional god...you insert the name..lol. So, Strange is busy as well.Can SMP get past this lineup to continue his quest to subdue Marvel Earth....and if so...who stops him?
He can't subdue Earth if he flies through it.
But I do agree, not enough hard hitters left in Marvel Earth to successfully fend off an uber team buster like Guardian Amped Prime.
Re: Re: SMP vs Marvel Earth
Originally posted by fangirl101
They all die.I'd have liked to see maybe like
Thor, Surfer, Gladiator, Hulk, Thanos, Black Bolt, Strange, IW, Genis, Quasar, Drax the Destroyer classic, etc. Tho GR is interesting. He might totally screw the murderous Youth around.
That team WOULD stop prime and without much issue in my opinion. We have three high end people who could drain prime, create red sun energy plus a high end magician. That team imo beats prime.
Originally posted by Xzpunisher
regular superman is already trillions of times stronger then any marvel power house like Hulk or Gladiator or ThorPrime would kill these chumps in the blink of an eye
DC universe is just vastly more powerful then Marvel's
This must be H1a8 or Galen but this post is one of the most bias I've seen to date on this site
Originally posted by Spire
..........It is one. He used his strength/force via another medium(flight) to move something.
Spire are you slow or something? So, your saying there isn't a difference between lets say.... being sling shotted with a ball and chain tied to you and dragging the same ball and chain? Not the best analogy but you get the point. Flying is most certainly generating force and certainly helping supes move that planet. He's clearly not just siting there pulling on the planet with just his whole body. It is still impressive but acting like him flying and the means generated by such isn't helping is just silly
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Spire are you slow or something? So, your saying there isn't a difference between lets say.... being sling shotted with a ball and chain tied to you and dragging the same ball and chain? Not the best analogy but you get the point. Flying is most certainly generating force and certainly helping supes move that planet. He's clearly not just siting there pulling on the planet with just his whole body. It is still impressive but acting like him flying and the means generated by such isn't helping is just silly
there's zero evidence that the thrust provided by him flying somehow compensates for a lack of strength on superman's part.
Originally posted by Raoul
there's zero evidence that the thrust provided by him flying somehow compensates for a lack of strength on superman's part.
Superman might very well be able to perform the feat on strength alone. But since he was flying we can determine that he wasnt doing it solely on strength
Originally posted by Raoul
how? there's never been (that i've seen) any indication that he uses said thrust with his strength.
From the scan goob showed, its not something we he has control of or can somehow turn on and off. Its and effect that occurs due to his flight, Hence if he is performing a strength feat while flying it becomes easier because of that extra force at work which would automatically lead him to using less strength to perform the actual feat.
Originally posted by Naija boy
From the scan goob showed, its not something we he has control of or can somehow turn on and off. Its and effect that occurs due to his flight, Hence if he is performing a strength feat while flying it becomes easier because of that extra force at work which would automatically lead him to using less strength to perform the actual feat.
QFT
Originally posted by Naija boy
From the scan goob showed, its not something we he has control of or can somehow turn on and off. Its and effect that occurs due to his flight, Hence if he is performing a strength feat while flying it becomes easier because of that extra force at work which would automatically lead him to using less strength to perform the actual feat.
he says something other than strength, meaning not strength. and that scan is old. 20 years old. that was john byrne superman, that still used willpower as the primary engine for his powers.
Originally posted by Raoul
he says something other than strength, meaning not strength. and that scan is old. 20 years old. that was john byrne superman, that still used willpower as the primary engine for his powers.
I understand that its an old scan but does that really mean we can discount what was said?
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneruThis argument started from what I remember as you tried comparing Prime's attack on earth to Void's. Void stomped earth while Prime didn't. I know it was a weaker Prime but again you brought it up.
Stop trolling.If you can read this sentence without seeing something wrong with it, there is something wrong with you.
I don't see how Prime is going to past past the tendrils shattering his bones that can attack virtually every marvel hero in that arc.
Originally posted by MekrobI didn't ignore anything try to stay with me here. He wanted to compare so I did. End of story. As regards to this thread its Void at his best vs Prime at his best with the amp. I see the tendrils and the darkness and Prime's fear all playing into a loss for him.
And he also ignored that Prime's peak in this thread is with the Guardian amp, when he said peak Prime didn't beat a the heroes...You could point out a ton of things wrong with his post... but it's best not to be baited in. He won't stop, and he won't listen. It's pointless.
Originally posted by XzpunisherDo you really believe this?
Their is no one on Marvel Earth that could stop himTelepaths dont work
Reality warpers dont work
Magic doesnt work
DC Earth is vastly more powerful then Marvel earth is, if they couldnt stop him, then Marvel earth goes up in flames
Originally posted by Mekrob
Thor is equal. He lifted a planet sized snake (since you've been spamming for lifting feats the whole time).
Except the feat he's using isn't even a lifting feat. Hell, if Superman pushed the Earth it'd be a better feat than him needing Hal's help to pull it. What do you use the most when you pull something? Your thighs and back (unless you're flying like he was, then I dunno wtf he'd be using.) When you push something, it's mainly your arms and thighs...that's much more relative to overall strength. And Thor actually lifting the Midgard Serpent is of course, a lifting feat...using arms & thighs, whatever.
I'm assuming that Xz doesn't know that Gladiator has pushed planets out of their orbit before under his own power without help. Or that the LT's assistant said he could collapse a star with his bare hands. *shrug*
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Spire are you slow or something? So, your saying there isn't a difference between lets say.... being sling shotted with a ball and chain tied to you and dragging the same ball and chain? Not the best analogy but you get the point. Flying is most certainly generating force and certainly helping supes move that planet. He's clearly not just siting there pulling on the planet with just his whole body. It is still impressive but acting like him flying and the means generated by such isn't helping is just silly
What an excellent analogy....
What thrust? Where?
So what power does he use to push/pull something while his feet are off the ground? The power of prayer? Love and happiness?
Originally posted by Spire
What an excellent analogy....What thrust? Where?
So what power does he use to push/pull something while his feet are off the ground? The power of prayer? Love and happiness?
Supes himself said it. It doesnt have to have to be explained in any way cuz supes has already confirmed it. End of Story. UR basically arguing against the comic.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Supes himself said it. It doesnt have to have to be explained in any way cuz supes has already confirmed it. End of Story. UR basically arguing against the comic.
What does that have to do with:
Originally posted by Spire
So what power does he use to push/pull something while his feet are off the ground? The power of prayer? Love and happiness?