Alex vs. Cole

The only one hit in canon is Kessler, so that doesn't help us at all. It doesn't prove anything right or wrong, so it's an insignificant feat.

There is a chance that this is the lightning strike, but for obvious reasons I can't tell for sure.

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What did it do to Kessler?

It weakened him, injuring him to a fatal extent. It's as said, insignificant though, given that Kessler is Kessler. The man with an unknown level of energy field and who automatically absorbs energy (On top of t he energy field). He died after he shared (Literally) the story of his life with Cole.

Unquantifiable then. Although has anything pointed to Kessler being able to take atomization?

Picture did not work by the way. 😛

Originally posted by NemeBro
Unquantifiable then. Although has anything pointed to Kessler being able to take atomization?

Picture did not work by the way. 😛

Actually: Yes. The Ray Sphere blast atomized entire city blocks. Kessler, like Cole, absorbed the blast. You are fighting Kessler at the scene of his origin, and there's nothing but one big creater. Where there once was buildings, there's now only a hole. No shredds, no remains, just a crater.

DAMN THAT PICTURE! 😠 It's a picture where Cole has made a gesture (Just done with it) and 6 utterly destroyed cars are flying from some impact.

Given Cole's powers, it can be one of two things:
1. His push (Although the vehicles are flying in seperate directions at a width not known for the push)
2. His lightning summon (Although there's no trail from the lightning. Only the scene of destruction as result of whatever).

The only thing definate is that cars are destroyed and it's Cole's doing.

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl!
[b]Actually: Yes. The Ray Sphere blast atomized entire city blocks. Kessler, like Cole, absorbed the blast. You are fighting Kessler at the scene of his origin, and there's nothing but one big creater. Where there once was buildings, there's now only a hole. No shredds, no remains, just a crater. [/B]

And absorption=/=Tanking it.

How do you tell the difference?

Absorption/Tanking. Doesn't matter. Kessler taking the lightning proves nothing in favor of either possibility.

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl!
[b]How do you tell the difference?

Absorption/Tanking. Doesn't matter. Kessler taking the lightning proves nothing in favor of either possibility. [/B]

Because absorbing it is not actually having your body withstand the attack.

Exactly and doesn't matter. Kessler is the only thing hit in canon by the lightning, so we have no real thing to use in comparison. Kessler has both energy field and the power of absorption. Him surviving isn't in any way telling us anything about the actual attack. Only about him, because of his unknown level of protection.

Originally posted by NemeBro
He was thirty to fifty feet away from ground zero of a nuclear explosion.

Prove Cole can produce the same kind of output.

And before you give me any bullshit about how UBER POWAFUL lightning is, provide actual feats from Cole. Kthxbai.

he was MUCH further from what the cutscene shows, and he WAS all but destroyed and SLOWLY and MUCH later he started reforming.

i dont have to, the game does it for me, he summons REAL lightening which makes things EXPLODE as it touches em. his lightening however is extended over a much longer period of time making the energy output in the range of hundreds of gigajoules.

gameplay mechanics are sumthing to consider, the fact that humans dont show HOLES through their bodies on contact with lightening is merely a gameplay mechanic to minimise development cost and undue processor need as well as making it possible to bioleech etc. does that mean cole's electricity can NOT put holes in a human body? no. common sense man.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Unquantifiable then. Although has anything pointed to Kessler being able to take atomization?

Picture did not work by the way. 😛

he DID time travel. sumthing beyond alex's wildest dreams.

Impressive as that is, it doesn't tell us anything about his durability. The fact that Kessler was struck by this lightning isn't helping anyone 😛

as i said, cole was at ground ZERO of the ray sphere activation, the energy there leveled 6 city blocks and cole was still alive with reletively minor burns. thats how the game STARTS, THATS durability.

That's absorption. Not true durability in the sense of damage inflict.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
he was MUCH further from what the cutscene shows, and he WAS all but destroyed and SLOWLY and MUCH later he started reforming.

i dont have to, the game does it for me, he summons REAL lightening which makes things EXPLODE as it touches em. his lightening however is extended over a much longer period of time making the energy output in the range of hundreds of gigajoules.

gameplay mechanics are sumthing to consider, the fact that humans dont show HOLES through their bodies on contact with lightening is merely a gameplay mechanic to minimise development cost and undue processor need as well as making it possible to bioleech etc. does that mean cole's electricity can NOT put holes in a human body? no. common sense man.

Yeah. Prove it. Feats or GTFO.

I don't need to prove he can't. You need to prove he can.

u have a comprehension problem. let me rephrase in a way that u can understand "from what the cutscene shows, he was FURTHER away than 50 feet." i.e. the cutscene shows him further away than 50 feet from ground zero.

i did, it shown in the game.

its always nice to see children try and use examples of fallacies that they dont understand.

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl!
[b]That's absorption. Not true durability in the sense of damage inflict. [/B]

then why did he get burnt?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
then why did he get burnt?

Because it was the first time he used his powers (In matter of fact, it was when he got his powers). Care to tell me how the ground he stands on is intact if he merely tanked it and didn't absorb it? There's a huge crater and he's in the middle of it. Yet, in the middle of it, there's no damage on the ground.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
u have a comprehension problem. let me rephrase in a way that u can understand "from what the cutscene shows, he was FURTHER away than 50 feet." i.e. the cutscene shows him further away than 50 feet from ground zero.

i did, it shown in the game.

its always nice to see children try and use examples of fallacies that they dont understand.

Shown in-game to be hundreds of gigajoules?

Examples of fallacies? Just where did I bring up a fallacy?

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl!
[b]Because it was the first time he used his powers (In matter of fact, it was when he got his powers). Care to tell me how the ground he stands on is intact if he merely tanked it and didn't absorb it? There's a huge crater and he's in the middle of it. Yet, in the middle of it, there's no damage on the ground. [/B]

because he suffered the brunt of the damage acting as a sheild to the ground