Originally posted by fangirl101Again when Superman and WW have fought one on one Supes was easily her physical superior. She competes with him due to her skill. If she just slugged it out shed lose very quickly.
Now how in the hell is she now where near superman's strength level when it's shown that she and superman are the one's who catch the spectre? She matches CM in hand to hand. She and Superman are the ones who have to knock back the general. She and superman are the one's who are doing battle with konvict. Where the entire rest of the league fell.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestI think we have just recenty have seen speed feats by the Surfer that would make most in dc envious of his reaction times. Sentry,Gladiator,Quicksilver,Fallen One, and the Surfer come to mind. You see though being quick isnt as big as it is over in dc imo. I have seen someone like Apocalypse easily grab Quicksilver. Thats just Apoc.
Not really. Marvel Earth has practically no speedsters. There's nobody to match him against. Silver Surfer would be the best person, since he's actually fast, even if his combat speed stinks most of the time. Now, if Sentry faced a Surfer actually using high end combat speed, and kept up with him, ok. Then I would say speed isn't really an issue for him. At least not until you get up against Superman or Flash.Wondy is faster because she's faced actual speedsters and not only kept up, but outraced several.
Yeah. Superman does it everyday. 🙄 For someone who's mid-high herald like Sentry is according to you, a bullet catch isn't much of a feat. For SpiderMan or Iron Fist, hell yes, it would be a great feat.
But against someone who hit the speed force without being connected? Or keep up with Flash or Superman? Or has combat reflexes to block the Omega Effect and lasers? Waste of ****ing time. Any DC top tier with high end speed could duplicate that feat.
Hell, Superman has come from halfway around the world, just to catch bullets being shot at Jimmy Olsen and Lois Lane. And it was so easy for him, he had enough time to put cotten in their ears to protect them from the sounds.
Is Genisvell fast in your opinion?
Post the scan of Superman coming halfway across the world to catch these bullets please as Id like to see it and would like to see the distance and the circumstances behind it.
Again Sentry catching that bullet is very impressive imo. How long does it take a bullet when fired hit someone's head aimed at point blank range?
Originally posted by xmarksthespotSentry caught the bullet before it hit the person's head. That is way more impressive than dodging gunfire. Are you suggesting that the Sentry is quick enough to come to and catch a bullet aimed at point blank range but not dodge multiple gunfire aimed at him? 😬
My god you are confusing. Or confused. It's like you're responding a post behind.I said Rogue's catching gatling gun fire and throwing them back was a more impressive feat of handspeed. Which it is.
I wasn't referring to Batgirl's bullet dodging for the most part in that post.
But I then subsequently posted a similar feat by Batgirl, a street leveler to Sentry's. Which you've apparently ignored.
Here are mediafire links if the imageshack ones didn't work.
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=ln7m2vyxhln&thumb=4
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=n2zgmnmsbpo&thumb=4
*Yes one has to be fast to intercept a bullet, as fast or maybe faster than a baterang, but if we're going to be differentiating between "combat handspeed" and "whole body movement" then you need to be the latter not the former for the Sentry feat. And being faster than a bullet for the latter is really nothing new.
*NB the man is not actually standing against the wall. That's just artistic license.
Your other scans are too small for me actually see what is going on there.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Again when Superman and WW have fought one on one Supes was easily her physical superior. She competes with him due to her skill. If she just slugged it out shed lose very quickly.
Um no. If it were just her skill, he would kill her in one hit anyway. And her skill won't enable her to injure him unless she's really close to his strength and durability level. Give She hulk wondy's skill and see how much good it does her. it won't.
Originally posted by fangirl101Again in the entire fight in that comic she was getting beaten up badly. She was knocked out and was fighting for her life. Supes was on her shit. WW's best move was hiding from him and clanging his ears. Then she ran.
Um no. If it were just her skill, he would kill her in one hit anyway. And her skill won't enable her to injure him unless she's really close to his strength and durability level. Give She hulk wondy's skill and see how much good it does her. it won't.
Would you also give She Hulk her weapons?
Again in a brawl she gets annihilated with Superman imo and the comics support this.
Originally posted by quanchi112 Again in the entire fight in that comic she was getting beaten up badly._ She was knocked out and was fighting for her life._ Supes was on her shit._ WW's best move was hiding from him and clanging his ears._ Then she ran.Would you also give She Hulk her weapons?Again in a brawl she gets annihilated with Superman imo and the comics support this.No. You obviously haven't been paying attention. In a brawl, the very same guy who briefly ko'd supers, was being matched by wondy. She was HOLDING back in the sacrifice. Or did you just decide you didn't like that part of the story and skipped the page? She wasn't fighting for her life, if she was, supers would have been dead with the tiara toss to the neck. I just looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooovve how you read something and get something totally different than the rest of the literate world.
Originally posted by fangirl101It still doesnt change the fact that he beat her down. Even if she was pulling her punches and not out to kill this doesnt change her durability.
No. You obviously haven't been paying attention. In a brawl, the very same guy who briefly ko'd supers, was being matched by wondy. She was HOLDING back in the sacrifice. Or did you just decide you didn't like that part of the story and skipped the page? She wasn't fighting for her life, if she was, supers would have been dead with the tiara toss to the neck. I just looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooovve how you read something and get something totally different than the rest of the literate world.
Plus give me something else then. Has WW ever beaten Superman? If so you have a point?
Originally posted by quanchi112
It still doesnt change the fact that he beat her down. Even if she was pulling her punches and not out to kill this doesnt change her durability.Plus give me something else then. Has WW ever beaten Superman? If so you have a point?
When has wondy ever fought Superman not pulling her punches? It is you who does NOT have a point or a leg to stand on. And He beat her down? While she was trying to save his life. It's superman, if he were as far above her as you want to think, then she should have been a pulp of nothingness. She took punches from a guy who can crumble planets with his shots.
Originally posted by quanchi112He was coming from across a jungle. I know what she's talking about. The terrorist performs a bad-guy speech after Olsen hits his signal watch. So Superman did have a jump before the bullets are ever fired.
Post the scan of Superman coming halfway across the world to catch these bullets please as Id like to see it and would like to see the distance and the circumstances behind it.
Originally posted by quanchi112Presuming 4 inches away from the head with a typical pistol muzzle velocity of 1000 ft/s, about .32 milliseconds. Or about 1/3 of a millisecond.
Again Sentry catching that bullet is very impressive imo. How long does it take a bullet when fired hit someone's head aimed at point blank range?
Originally posted by fangirl101Again if you dont have any proof that she can best him you really dont have anything. The way I see it she is Superman's inferior and its pretty much a fact in the dcu.
When has wondy ever fought Superman not pulling her punches? It is you who does NOT have a point or a leg to stand on. And He beat her down? While she was trying to save his life. It's superman, if he were as far above her as you want to think, then she should have been a pulp of nothingness. She took punches from a guy who can crumble planets with his shots.
If you disagree and post some scans of her trading blows with Superman or getting the better of him without relying on her skill then you have something imo.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Again if you dont have any proof that she can best him you really dont have anything. The way I see it she is Superman's inferior and its pretty much a fact in the dcu.If you disagree and post some scans of her trading blows with Superman or getting the better of him without relying on her skill then you have something imo.
Originally posted by fangirl101
When has wondy ever fought Superman not pulling her punches? It is you who does NOT have a point or a leg to stand on. And He beat her down? While she was trying to save his life. It's superman, if he were as far above her as you want to think, then she should have been a pulp of nothingness. She took punches from a guy who can crumble planets with his shots.
The sacrafice fight is riddled with CIS from supes part though, and consideirng that Diana had to resort to her tiara anyways it obviosuly indicates she would have to be fighting serious to even hold him off...and this is a supes who isnt nearly as impressive as his causal self.So with that in mind, all that fight really showed was Diana's durability...although its not saying much since supes was figting like a complete tard. In fact I'd compare it to Thanos beating Thor w/PG, thor was fighting like a tard to but had he been serious thanos would have been destroyed effortlessly.