Sentry vs Wonder Woman

Started by Comics Queen63 pages

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Molecule Man. Who is superior to Wonder Woman. Go away please. And we're talking about Morgana and Circe. Nice deflection.
Deflection? You skipped many of my points that you had no answer for. And Molecule Man in that story was not a physical opponent nor was he competant. Since when does MM need to kidnap anyone instead of just teleporting them away? A hellicarrarier falling on WW would do nothing but piss her off. Non-competent superior character does not equal a win against a competent lessor character.

Originally posted by Comics Queen
Deflection? You skipped many of my points that you had no answer for. And Molecule Man in that story was not a physical opponent nor was he competant. Since when does MM need to kidnap anyone instead of just teleporting them away? A hellicarrarier falling on WW would do nothing but piss her off. Non-competent superior character does not equal a win against a competent lessor character.
Nice reversion to low-balling. Desperately flailing for the Helicarrier (leaving out the amped heroes' combined assault)? Predictable. Trying to act like Molecule Man in Dark Avengers wouldn't have just turned Wonder Woman into a dildo or exploded her? Phucktarded. Discussion was over back when you thought Wonder Woman was over Superman, Captain Marvel, Thor, Molecule Man or Photon Genis-Vell. Sentry dominated/matched the latter three at their own games. Enough with this nonsense.

Circe completely rendered the entire Greek pantheon useless and has been summoned in rank among the likes of the Spectre and Nekron. She's basically the goddess of magic in DC. She doesn't just magic everyone away in every appearance because, being a magically based character, it would ruin the plot (also she has a quasi-respectful wish to personally ruin Diana's life via torture).

^ Mhmm. Yeah, under her own power, with a single spell and without any machinations or prep whatsoever. Good job leaving out context.

Sentry defeated Doom. Doom defeated Beyonder. Screw the details, amirite? Sentry > Beyonder.

Originally posted by Comics Queen
Deflection? You skipped many of my points that you had no answer for. And Molecule Man in that story was not a physical opponent nor was he competant. Since when does MM need to kidnap anyone instead of just teleporting them away? A hellicarrarier falling on WW would do nothing but piss her off. Non-competent superior character does not equal a win against a competent lessor character.

Thor hit Sentry with a full on hammer shot that basically struck a big a** blast right afterwrds and Sentry tanked it. That hit alone is far greater than the impact of a Hellicarrier.

Before this void took direct hits from ALL of Earth heros and tanked it... that is far greater than the impact of a hellicarrier.

Would you like for me to continue?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Nice reversion to low-balling. Desperately flailing for the Helicarrier (leaving out the amped heroes' combined assault)? Predictable. Trying to act like Molecule Man in Dark Avengers wouldn't have just turned Wonder Woman into a dildo or exploded her? Phucktarded. Discussion was over back when you thought Wonder Woman was over Superman, Captain Marvel, Thor, Molecule Man or Photon Genis-Vell. Sentry dominated/matched the latter three at their own games. Enough with this nonsense.
Lulz at you calling me names to save your failing argument. Now do me a favor and highlight where I said Ww as over Superman or Captain Marvel or Thor. Do me that favor. Until then, your debating skills need some dusting off. They aren't being used. Yet. ranting and insulting isn't debating. And skipping over points that you can't address directly is also not debating. Respond to me when you can do better. 🙂

Originally posted by carver9
Thor hit Sentry with a full on hammer shot that basically struck a big a** blast right afterwrds and Sentry tanked it. That hit alone is far greater than the impact of a Hellicarrier.

Before this void took direct hits from ALL of Earth heros and tanked it... that is far greater than the impact of a hellicarrier.

Would you like for me to continue?

Would you like me to list what Wonder Woman has deflected or tanked? I guarantee her list is as impressive as Sentry's if not more so.

Originally posted by Comics Queen
Lulz at you calling me names to save your failing argument. Now do me a favor and highlight where I said Ww as over Superman or Captain Marvel or Thor. Do me that favor. Until then, your debating skills need some dusting off. They aren't being used. Yet. ranting and insulting isn't debating. And skipping over points that you can't address directly is also not debating. Respond to me when you can do better. 🙂
I didn't call you a name in that post. Learn to read English. When you elevate your debating over transparent attempts to project and hominem attacks to derail from a discussion that is spiraling out of your control, let me know.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I didn't call you a name in that post. Learn to read English. When you elevate your debating over transparent attempts to project and hominem attacks to derail from a discussion that is spiraling out of your control, let me know.
And in the end, you still addressed NONE of my points, while I addressed all of yours. Concede or do better.

^ If you can't keep up with the regression of your arguments into "Wonder Woman > Superman, Captain Marvel, etc. but she's not when you call me out on my bs insinuations but somehow my point stands" or "lulz Helicarrier!!!!!111" or "waaah, my butt hurts because Sentry is =/> Thor, Molecule Man, Photon Genis-Vell at their own games"

... well... that's not my fault. Welcome back.

Originally posted by Comics Queen
Deflection? You skipped many of my points that you had no answer for. And Molecule Man in that story was not a physical opponent nor was he competant. Since when does MM need to kidnap anyone instead of just teleporting them away? A hellicarrarier falling on WW would do nothing but piss her off. Non-competent superior character does not equal a win against a competent lessor character.
A helicarrier would damage her big time. Acting like it wouldn't is wishful thinking.

Now WW can't survive being destroyed by the MM or take repeated punches from WW Hulk and not be ko'd, etc.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ If you can't keep up with the regression of your arguments into "Wonder Woman > Superman, Captain Marvel, etc. but she's not when you call me out on my bs insinuations but somehow my point stands" or "lulz Helicarrier!!!!!111" or "waaah, my butt hurts because Sentry is =/> Thor, Molecule Man, Photon Genis-Vell at their own games"

... well... that's not my fault. Welcome back.

I'm still waiting on you to point out where I said WW> Superman, Captain Marvel, Etc. Point them out or be considered in my list as someone who likes to make up tales and stories when they are losing a debate.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Mhmm. Yeah, under her own power, with a single spell and without any machinations or prep whatsoever. Good job leaving out context.

Sentry defeated Doom. Doom defeated Beyonder. Screw the details, amirite? Sentry > Beyonder.

Yeah, Circe did use artifacts when making the hellfire web to manipulate the gods, but even after Dr. Fate and Klarion gathered together to dispel her amps she went on to straight up kill Hermes with magic for getting in her way of Wonder Woman. Then she turned Diana back into the clay she was made from; also under her own power.

Circe only lost eventually because she was ported to Limbo and stripped of Hecate's blessing (which is where she originally got her magic from hundreds and hundreds of years ago).

Originally posted by quanchi112
A helicarrier would damage her big time. Acting like it wouldn't is wishful thinking.

Now WW can't survive being destroyed by the MM or take repeated punches from WW Hulk and not be ko'd, etc.

Would it now?

Hellicarrier doing more dmg than this? Being punched from the Sun to the earth and then creating a huge crater. More Dmg than a hellicarrier could do. Yet she was back up in seconds.
http://www.picamatic.com/view/1228392_job40cx/

Or how about this? She crashed a ship from space to a planet and got up without a scratch. Hellicarrier going to do what to her? Nothing.
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/12/36/1228388_768x1063.jpg
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/12/36/1228389_819x1132.jpg

Originally posted by Comics Queen
I'm still waiting on you to point out where I said WW> Superman, Captain Marvel, Etc. Point them out or be considered in my list as someone who likes to make up tales and stories when they are losing a debate.
Cry more. Funneling the trainwreck of your arguments into nitpicking a tangential point stinks of desperate deflection.

But let me address your accusation that I'm straw-manning you. I've had practice after all with posters whining about utterly tangential "he said, she said" deflections. You bring up Hectate and Circe and Ares when discussing Wonder Woman's lasso. As if I'm supposed to concede some sort of ABC logic horsecrap and concede that the lasso is a gamebreaker.

I mention Superman and Captain Marvel. Who aren't losing the majority to Wonder Woman despite this mythical gamebreaker lasso of your's. You don't dispute that. Simplistic ABC logic horsecrap dispelled. But it doesn't stop you from constantly repeating it. So every time you bring up the lasso, every time you bring up Hectate, Circe and Ares, I bring up Superman and Captain Marvel. To illustrate and punctuate how even you don't believe in your simplistic ABC horsecrap.

You get the gist now? Have I dumbed it down enough for you now?

Originally posted by Konton
Yeah, Circe did use artifacts when making the hellfire web to manipulate the gods,
Nuff said.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Cry more. Funneling the trainwreck of your arguments into nitpicking a tangential point stinks of desperate deflection.

But let me address your accusation that I m straw-manning you. I've had practice after all with posters whining about utterly tangential "he said, she said" deflections. You bring up Hectate and Circe and Ares when discussing Wonder Woman's lasso. As if I'm supposed to concede some sort of ABC logic horsecrap and concede that the lasso is a gamebreaker.

I mention Superman and Captain Marvel. Who aren't losing the majority to Wonder Woman despite this mythical gamebreaker lasso of your's. You don't dispute that. Every time you bring up the lasso, every time you bring up Hectate, Circe and Ares, I bring up Superman and Captain Marvel. To illustrate and punctuate how even you don't believe in your simplistic ABC horsecrap.

You get the gist now? Have I dumbed it down enough for you now? Nuff said.

CM has never beaten WW. So bringing him up means NOTHING. Superman knows that the lasso is an instant game changer. Or shall I post when an AMPED Superman was subdued by it? I think I shall.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Cry more. Funneling the trainwreck of your arguments into nitpicking a tangential point stinks of desperate deflection.

But let me address your accusation that I'm straw-manning you. I've had practice after all with posters whining about utterly tangential "he said, she said" deflections. You bring up Hectate and Circe and Ares when discussing Wonder Woman's lasso. As if I'm supposed to concede some sort of ABC logic horsecrap and concede that the lasso is a gamebreaker.

I mention Superman and Captain Marvel. Who aren't losing the majority to Wonder Woman despite this mythical gamebreaker lasso of your's. You don't dispute that. Every time you bring up the lasso, every time you bring up Hectate, Circe and Ares, I bring up Superman and Captain Marvel. To illustrate and punctuate how even you don't believe in your simplistic ABC horsecrap.

You get the gist now? Have I dumbed it down enough for you now? Nuff said.

Yet She effortlessly killed an immortal being under her own power. Nuff said.

^ Mhmm. I'm sure.

Originally posted by Comics Queen
CM has never beaten WW. So bringing him up means NOTHING. Superman knows that the lasso is an instant game changer. Or shall I post when an AMPED Superman was subdued by it? I think I shall.
Of course, neither of them get beat for the majority by Wonder Woman. I like how you can't even bring yourself to acknowledge that.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Nuff said.

Way to disregard her effortlessly killing Hermes and Diana.

Way more than Morgan could do on even her best day.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Mhmm. I'm sure. Of course, neither of them get beat for the majority by Wonder Woman. I like how you can't even bring yourself to acknowledge that.
Because I don't think She can. They are all so close and have different strengths and weaknesses. I'd send WW against Thor before Superman. But I'd send Superman against Firelord before WW. They are all in the same ball park.