Originally posted by D_Dude1210yes becuz thanos has a long list of beating true top tiers with strength only. He sure as hell was uber against gamora who made him bleed. And gamora happens to be around the same skill lvl as orion. And she is far weaker ans slower and less durable.
Spite. Thanos spanks Orion like a naughty 5 year old.
Originally posted by fangirl101
He sure as hell was uber against gamora who made him bleed. And gamora happens to be around the same skill lvl as orion. And she is far weaker ans slower and less durable.
Did you miss the part about what Gamora said afterwards, her having a lot of trouble finding an opening in his defenses and whatnot? Or him basically being immune to pressure point strikes?
Thanos' durability and strength is too much for Orion here.
Originally posted by EnyalusAnd Gamora is any where near as strong and fast as Orion. He wouldn't have the same problems that Gamora had.
Did you miss the part about what Gamora said afterwards, her having a lot of trouble finding an opening in his defenses and whatnot? Or him basically being immune to pressure point strikes?Thanos' durability and strength is too much for Orion here.
Originally posted by EnyalusUm no. How many Orion Comics do you own? Orioni n hand to hand is Very impressive. He thinks and uses all the tricks. I have him sparring with a character much like Gamor. He's also hand to hand with DS. And With Mister Miracle at Superspeeds.
Orion fights like an assinine berserker most of the time. Thanos would pick him apart if this is in character.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Um no. How many Orion Comics do you own? Orioni n hand to hand is Very impressive. He thinks and uses all the tricks. I have him sparring with a character much like Gamor. He's also hand to hand with DS. And With Mister Miracle at Superspeeds.
No doubt when Orion goes H2H he can be impressive (but I saw two Orion vs. DS fights, and they were not.) But Thanos definitely doesn't look like Karate Kid or Superman (whom he doesn't even use his skills on.) More like Kallibak or Doomsday. Plus Thanos isn't exactly poor in that department...like you already brought up, going toe-to-toe MA-wise with Gamora. And being able to read all of Champion's moves (who has mastered 'countless' martial arts.) Plus Thanos does have hand speed. DC-style handspeed when blasting, and blurring handspeed when striking.
Originally posted by EnyalusWhat/ Orion is impressive when fighting DS. He was using agility, speed, multiple striking etc. I agree Thanos wins. But not becuz he's that much stronger. I see no evidence that he's that much stronger than any top tier without energy amps. He's just so much more durable.
No doubt when Orion goes H2H he can be impressive (but I saw two Orion vs. DS fights, and they were not.) But Thanos definitely doesn't look like Karate Kid or Superman (whom he doesn't even use his skills on.) More like Kallibak or Doomsday. Plus Thanos isn't exactly poor in that department...like you already brought up, going toe-to-toe MA-wise with Gamora. And being able to read all of Champion's moves (who has mastered 'countless' martial arts.) Plus Thanos does have hand speed. DC-style handspeed when blasting, and blurring handspeed when striking.
Originally posted by fangirl101
What/ Orion is impressive when fighting DS. He was using agility, speed, multiple striking etc. I agree Thanos wins. But not becuz he's that much stronger. I see no evidence that he's that much stronger than any top tier without energy amps. He's just so much more durable.
Did you have a particular fight in mind? I was thinking of the DOTNG one, and then...somewhere in New Gods v3 I think.
While I don't mind you thinking he's not 'that much stronger' - I do think he's stronger. And like you said, more durable.
Originally posted by fangirl101
yes becuz thanos has a long list of beating true top tiers with strength only. He sure as hell was uber against gamora who made him bleed. And gamora happens to be around the same skill lvl as orion. And she is far weaker ans slower and less durable.
So, Fangirl you really believe Orion wins the majority or how does it break down in your mind..? Is it Thanos 6/10 is it 10/10 Orion or Thanos.. what? I don't think it's spite but Thanos certainly wins the vast majority imo. He has the strength and Durability advantage that Orion wouldn't be able to overcome going blow for blow with Thanos.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Did you have a particular fight in mind? I was thinking of the DOTNG one, and then...somewhere in New Gods v3 I think.While I don't mind you thinking he's not 'that much stronger' - I do think he's stronger. And like you said, more durable.
Thanos fought a crazed Thor amped by the Power gem H2H. The fact that he held his own H2H against an amped Thor for several panels kinda shows that he can actually do pretty well for himself.
I still think this is an extremely one-sided match. Though, I will admit a bit of hyperbole on my part on the "spank like a 5 year old" part.
I don't know if Thanos can indeed hurt Orion sufficiently in pure h2h.
Prehaps he can since Orion may not have anywhere near the durability as Superman does.
I still believe PG WM Thor still has the same durability as regular Thor does. The whole arc didn't make me think that Thor had greater durability than he normally has.
Also Orion could be more than 1000 times stronger than Thanos.
And yes I know who Thanos is and what he has done. He's still haven't shown me he's uber strong (at least lunartary).