Bor vs. Silver Surfer

And feast on new Asgard..

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It doesn't have to do with a type of ability. It has to do with the scope of personal power required to accomplisha similar feat. Don't use straw-man argumentation with me.

And I asked you what two feats, or more, of the ones I listed, could Superman do. Stop equivocating. Answer the question which you cornered yourself into.

as for Asgard again: Surfer can lift it

and you act like Thor is consistently at those level heck a Super Skrull was able to hurt him with heat

Originally posted by kgkg
Ok the taking a shot from the destroyer: Surfer and Superman can both take it

as for Asgard again: Surfer can lift it

and you act like Thor is consistently at those level heck a Super Skrull was able to hurt him with heat

Surfer can levitate Asgard. Terrax has levitated the island of Manhattan. But he cannot keep it levitated perpetually while he himself is pushed to the brink of death. Don't be ridiculous.

And how the hell does classic Thor fighting Super Skrull have anything to do with our conversation? We're talking current Thor who is skyfather level. He has done feats nobody below skyfather can do. And yours spectacular failure in justifying that Superman or Surfer could do what he does accentuates that fact. Bor took current Thor to the brink. What could possibly make you think Surfer could take Bor? Because you secretly want Superman to be able to fight Bor?

Originally posted by kgkg
Ok the taking a shot from the destroyer: Surfer and Superman can both take it

Surfer can levitate Asgard. Terrax has levitated the island of Manhattan. But he cannot keep it levitated perpetually while he himself is pushed to the brink of death. Don't be ridiculous.

And how the hell does classic Thor fighting Super Skrull have anything to do with our conversation? We're talking current Thor who is skyfather level.

Thinking that he's just so Badass, Bor will try to use only his barehands to crush the Surfer just like in Thor (forgot the issue number). Abandoning whatever energy manipulation he may have in his arsenal, Surfer takes it and just showers Bor with the power cosmic all day long. Bor hasn't had enough of a showing anyway.

SS 8/10

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Thinking that he's just so Badass, Bor will try to use only his barehands to crush the Surfer just like in Thor (forgot the issue number). Abandoning whatever energy manipulation he may have in his arsenal, Surfer takes it and just showers Bor with the power cosmic all day long. Bor hasn't had enough of a showing anyway.

SS 8/10

Dunno man. Thor may have had the Odinforce albeit he prolly does not fully command it's capabilities, Bor to me did not show enough of a "force" to be truly reckoned with. One could say he was not 100%, but still I get this feeling it's because he's not much of a skyfather anymore (Bor).

Was this in reply to me saying he wont just fight hth?

If so, he showed that he will use his other powers when needed in his fight against Thor and the DA.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Surfer can levitate Asgard. Terrax has levitated the island of Manhattan. But he cannot keep it levitated perpetually while he himself is pushed to the brink of death. Don't be ridiculous.

think the asgard levitation feat isn't all that... I'm sure Magneto could do that, even at the brink of death.

have yet to be impressed by "Odinforce Thor". he got his arse handed to him by Rulk, when first they met. it was as one-sided as these things get.

the second match came after Rulk had spent a prolongued, non-stop, period fighting various characters and only as a result of Thor blindsiding Rulk... yes Thor was winning, but give Rulk that kind of advantage against Thor and Thor would be dead/dying too.

I think Surfer stands a very good chance in this match. no way would Odin or Bor or characters of that ilk be one-shotting or otherwise easily dispatching current Surfer.

either of Tenebrous or Aegis would be a good deal more powerful than Odin and Bor, yet neither managed to even KO Surfer, after a repeated and lengthy assault ...

also, at the very least, UniLord is a "Skyfather" type character. by all rights, he should be their superior by a good margin, given that he was a Watcher gone rogue and then juiced up with some Blackbody power...

Originally posted by janus77
think the asgard levitation feat isn't all that... I'm sure Magneto could do that, even at the brink of death.

have yet to be impressed by "Odinforce Thor". he got his arse handed to him by Rulk, when first they met. it was as one-sided as these things get.

the second match came after Rulk had spent a prolongued, non-stop, period fighting various characters and only as a result of Thor blindsiding Rulk... yes Thor was winning, but give Rulk that kind of advantage against Thor and Thor would be dead/dying too.

lulz at people using Rulk

and lulz at people thinking levitating Asgard is a skyfather feat

Was supreme skyfather Thor, the ultimate badass, getting it taken to him by a Skrull up there?
And Red Hulk previously that scans were floating around of?

Thor may have gotten an upgrade, but how much does that put him past top tier? Clearly Odin wouldn't have had these difficulties. Right?

Terrax must be skyfather going by the feats people are giving Bor.
Levitating islands? Check. Planet Destroying? Guess Terrax has done more already.

Surfer creates a blackhole in Bors head ftw.

Oh... and Magneto can levitate an asteroid indefinitely under his power. I guess he must be Skyfather too!

Originally posted by Mekrob
He actually levitated a massive spaceship, and kept it levitated while he fused with the planet and healed it...

Originally posted by Juntai
Was supreme skyfather Thor, the ultimate badass, getting it taken to him by a Skrull up there?
And Red Hulk previously that scans were floating around of?

Thor may have gotten an upgrade, but how much does that put him past top tier? Clearly Odin wouldn't have had these difficulties. Right?

I think it puts him past top tier. clearly Odin wouldn't have these difficulties. I don't put him on Odin's level, which is about as high a Skyfather as you can get. But you don't have to be Odin's level to be a Skyfather.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
lulz at people using Rulk

and lulz at people thinking levitating Asgard is a skyfather feat

Screw you. 🙁 Levitating Asgard wouldn't be a Skyfather feat. I think keeping Asgard perpetually levitated irregardless of whether you're conscious or getting the smackdown laid on you is a Skyfather feat.

Originally posted by Avlon
Terrax must be skyfather going by the feats people are giving Bor.
Levitating islands? Check. Planet Destroying? Guess Terrax has done more already.

Surfer creates a blackhole in Bors head ftw.

Oh... and Magneto can levitate an asteroid indefinitely under his power. I guess he must be Skyfather too!

Bor resists it by virtue of being an Asgardian immortal with magical power.

Magneto put Asteroid M into a non-eroding orbit IIRC.

Originally posted by janus77
think the asgard levitation feat isn't all that... I'm sure Magneto could do that, even at the brink of death.

have yet to be impressed by "Odinforce Thor". he got his arse handed to him by Rulk, when first they met. it was as one-sided as these things get.

the second match came after Rulk had spent a prolongued, non-stop, period fighting various characters and only as a result of Thor blindsiding Rulk... yes Thor was winning, but give Rulk that kind of advantage against Thor and Thor would be dead/dying too.

I think Surfer stands a very good chance in this match. no way would Odin or Bor or characters of that ilk be one-shotting or otherwise easily dispatching current Surfer.

either of Tenebrous or Aegis would be a good deal more powerful than Odin and Bor, yet neither managed to even KO Surfer, after a repeated and lengthy assault ...

also, at the very least, UniLord is a "Skyfather" type character. by all rights, he should be their superior by a good margin, given that he was a Watcher gone rogue and then juiced up with some Blackbody power...

It's amazing with how much of Janus's post I agree, more specifically with most of the bolded part. He starts to get delusional after that but still, it's remarkable. 🙂

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
[B]😐 Really? Yeesh.
How massive was it?
He pretty much kicked the crap out of the Super Skrull. And although it's besides the point, Skyfathers like Zeus have had their hands full and been given pause when fighting high to mid heralds, e.g. Zeus vs. Thor.
/B]

I mean how many battle feat does Odin force Thor has? and already he has two bad showings.

Originally posted by janus77

either of Tenebrous or Aegis would be a good deal more powerful than Odin and Bor, yet neither managed to even KO Surfer, after a repeated and lengthy assault ...

Lengthy? He nearly died from 4 direct hits?

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nevermind