The Thing vs Doctor Octopus

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The Thing vs Doctor Octopus

Thing spots Ock robbing a bank in NYC while Parker is at school and attempts to put a stop to it. Fight starts inside a bank and proceeds out to a street with everyone evacuated so there's no people around but plenty of cars, signs, alike. Who takes this?

Ock: Tentacles are extremely strong and has shown he can flip cars over and bend steel easily. Could easily be used to man-handle the Thing.

Now, even though Ock can throw him around etc, I just don't see him putting him down at any point.

That said, the Thing can't lose, but whether he can get past the tentacles to land 1 hit, I dunno, since he isn't very fast at all.

Well all he has to do is dodge a tentacle, grab it, then he can toss Ock around alll day.

The Thing was incredibly weaker in the movies than his 616 counterpart. As much as I like bruisers like the Thing, I believe Doc Octopus could take this fight. Dr. Octopus's tentacles showed just as much strength as the Thing showed in the FF movies.

Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
The Thing was incredibly weaker in the movies than his 616 counterpart. As much as I like bruisers like the Thing, I believe Doc Octopus could take this fight. Dr. Octopus's tentacles showed just as much strength as the Thing showed in the FF movies.

Hmm, While I believe Ocks tentacles are very strong, I can't see him crushing a car into a small ball (he can break steel, but the I doubt he could crush an engine block), or pulling a falling firetruck off the edge of a bridge.

And Thing did take a huge vault door being blown at him with incredible force, and all he said was that it hurt.

He also stood still and shoulder charged a 18 wheeler cab, and if folded around him.

Both true, I just feel that Thing wasn't near as strong as he should be, and was certainly not agile. Dr. Octopus is much faster and is at least around the same strength level as the movie Thing. He's got a considerable range advantage on The Thing that I think could win him the fight.

True his tentacles were strong, and he did toss a car, but a standard Crown Vic cab weighs about 1-3 tons.

Firetrucks and weigh upwards of 5 tons. Semi's are the same thing.

Thing also tossed a car, a lot farther than Ock did if I'm not mistaken, but I'm not sure. I'm talking about in the 1st movie when the lady says the transmission sticks.

Plus he helped stop a Ferris wheel.

Thing fell off a skyscraper and survived unharmed. I just don't know what Ock would do to hurt Thing

Tentecle to the eye?

One of his tentacles has a long needle thingy in it I believe. Stab Thing in the eye?

I'm going to have to agree with blaxican on this one. Tentacle to the eyes it is.

Unless of course the thing can dodge it and grab it.

Now.. all we have here is chance stoned

It's not that hard to just block your face if you're Thing.

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
Tentecle to the eye?

One of his tentacles has a long needle thingy in it I believe. Stab Thing in the eye?

😂 ok, ill buy that. On the off chance that Ock plunges a tentacle in Things eye before Thing smashes Ock, Ock wins.

Originally posted by KingD19
It's not that hard to just block your face if you're Thing.

The Thing never showed any speed above human, and Doctor Octupus's tentacles move fast enough to tag Spiderman, of all people.

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
The Thing never showed any speed above human, and Doctor Octupus's tentacles move fast enough to tag Spiderman, of all people.
No, but moving your hand to your face does not take a long time.

And Thing will kill Ock in one punch, and manhandle him and his tentacles.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
No, but moving your hand to your face does not take a long time.

Yes it does. "long" is relative. If Spiderman can raise up a hand to protect himself in time from one of Doctor Octupus's tentacles, the Thing definitely can't.

And Thing will kill Ock in one punch, and manhandle him and his tentacles.

Octavius can do the exact same thing.

While his speed is in question, it's at least human, which from the time it takes the tentacle to eject the spike, then whip towards his face, with enough precision to aim at his eyes, I think he has enough time to simply block his face.

And I highly doubt Doc Ock can thrash Thing with his tentacles.

He doesn't.

Because Spiderman spent half the movie failing to do so. So obviously the tentacles move at a super human speed.

Do people honestly think.. that the Thing can even hold a candle to Peter in reflexes?

The answer is no. Thing simply, doesn't have a case. And so what if he can cover his eyes? That leaves the rest of his body exposed to three other tentacles that may not be able to do serious damage but can grapple and twist around and constricting, sweep him etc. Ben's busy preventing his eyes from being gouged at and in the meantime Otto's using his other two or three arms are lifting him into the air, and now what? He has zero leverage. So now if he wants to get free he has to take his hands away from his eyes to free himself and suddenly his eyes are being attacked again. Oops.

He's ****ed. And Otto's no push-over either. His arms effortlessly ripped steel in half, tore off the vault door without effort, and he launched a car 50 feet through the air. Again, effortlessly. He has the speed advantage, the reach advantage, the intelligence advantage, and Ben is not that much stronger than he is. The only clear cut advantage he has over Octavius is his durability, but even he has weak spots.

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Again. Notice that throughout the whole fight Peter is barely able to keep up with his four arms, and as a result gets manhandled multiple times. No possible way Ben can keep up.

Also in the end Otto tears off the support beams of the warehouse and makes the whole roof crumble. Support beams are deigned to take multiple thousands of pounds before they break.

And also those tentecles are what? 15-20 feet long? four times the Thing's reach.

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
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Again. Notice that throughout the whole fight Peter is barely able to keep up with his four arms, and as a result gets manhandled multiple times.

But to be fair, if there was no PIS, Otto would've died after the first punch from Spidey. If the writers wanted Otto to be able to tank Spidey's punches, they should've included increased durability/strength as a side effect to some neural effect or whatever crap due to the implanted tentacles.

But the point still stands, it would be very hard for Ben to even get close for that one punch. If spider-man struggled to do it with his much superior speed and agility, theres not much chance the Thing could do it.

However on the other hand, Ock will have a hard time putting the Thing down, unless he could get the spike in any of his orifices. But so far, that's the only plausible way thats been mentioned. I'd also like to mention though, that it is unlikely Ock can use all four tentacles to hold Ben in the air, as he needs 1/2 tentacle anchored to the ground for support/leverage.