DARKSIED with soul fire formula and all new god souls vs THANOS with IG

Started by quanchi1124 pages

Originally posted by Allankles
The Source is the part of the Presence which governs the concept of energy within the main DCU.
Ok, which means squat here considering we have seen the Source in action and we became aware of the fact that someone like Ds could tap into his power and on his own render the Source impotent had it not been for Superman's intervention the Source would have lost.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What have you done to prove that the Source is above Eternity?

For one he isn't the origin of the concept of energy as the infinity gems preceded him.

Originally posted by Allankles
For one he isn't the origin of the concept of energy as the infinity gems preceded him.
That only proves that the ig is above Eternity. Lt isn't the source of all energy and he is above both. I don't seem to understand this logic by any means.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok, which means squat here considering we have seen the Source in action and we became aware of the fact that someone like Ds could tap into his power and on his own render the Source impotent had it not been for Superman's intervention the Source would have lost.

Hmm! The Source couldn't be replaced and as I already stated everything that happened there was merely Superman's interpretation of said events. There wasn't an eternity look alike fighting DS. Also DS had the SFE which allowed to tap into the Source via the loop hole of the New God souls bound to the Source.

Originally posted by Allankles
Hmm! The Source couldn't be replaced and as I already stated everything that happened there was merely Superman's interpretation of said events. There wasn't an eternity look like fighting DS. Also DS had the SFE which allowed to tap into the Source via the loop hole of the New God souls bound to the Source.
Being replaced has nothing to do with anything. Ig was better than Eternity we know that, but we don't know anything about how the source and how he would fare against Eternity.

Doesn't the Source even say that because of the distraction he could call his backup plan?

Ok, the point is that Ds through means could tap into the Source's power.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That only proves that the ig is above Eternity. Lt isn't the source of all energy and he is above both. I don't seem to understand this logic by any means.

Discussing LT would be pointless since we're comparing different hierachies. More importantly the Source represent more than Eternity and cannot be replaced because ALL energy is tied to it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok, the point is that Ds through means could tap into the Source's power.

Which matters because?... The gems were a part of a dead god who commited suicide, I was just pointing out that the Source is the HOTU of the DCU. If THOTU was sapient and responsible for creation and the origin of the concept of energy.

Originally posted by Allankles
Discussing LT would be pointless since we're comparing different hierachies. More importantly the Source represent more than Eternity and cannot be replaced because ALL energy is tied to it.
No, I wanted to show you the error of your logic.

That makes no sense if someone replaced the source then that being would supply all energy to the universe.

Originally posted by Allankles
Which matters because?... The gems were a part of a dead god who commited suicide, I was just pointing out that the Source is the HOTU of the DCU. If THOTU was sentient and responsible for creation and the origin of the concept of energy.
No, the Source isn't. The Source isn't the presence which is the supreme power of the dcu. The hotu was the supreme power so don't try to justtify some sort of horrible connection between the two. Are you saying this because of genesis and the godwave?

Originally posted by quanchi112

That makes no sense if someone replaced the source then that being would supply all energy to the universe.

The Source's has power over the concept of energy (get that first). The very concept of energy, it is the foundation of the expression of energy. So no it can't be replaced as DS noted in DOTNG, however he could attempt to impose his will upon its sapience.

Originally posted by Allankles
Hmm! The Source couldn't be replaced and as I already stated everything that happened there was merely Superman's interpretation of said events. There wasn't an eternity look alike fighting DS. Also DS had the SFE which allowed to tap into the Source via the loop hole of the New God souls bound to the Source.
I also like where you took out my response to this as you knew you wrong.

It wasn't Superman's interpretation of events it was the Source. Here let me show you the scan and call you on some of the twisting that you have been doing here. Because of Superman's interference it gave the Source time to call in his fallback plan,Orion.

So are we not going by actual feats in this thread?

just wondering

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, the Source isn't. The Source isn't the presence which is the supreme power of the dcu. The hotu was the supreme power so don't try to justtify some sort of horrible connection between the two. Are you saying this because of genesis and the godwave?

I said the Source is an aspect of the Presence, what is difficult to understand about being a part of the Presence? The Presence has many aspects, the Word, The Source, Wrath, Mercy. All of these are manifestations of one kind or another but even together only comprise a small fraction of his being.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I also like where you took out my response to this as you knew you wrong.

It wasn't Superman's interpretation of events it was the Source. Here let me show you the scan and call you on some of the twisting that you have been doing here. Because of Superman's interference it gave the Source time to call in his fallback plan,Orion.

bangin

Where is the Source's interpretation of events there? I already have DOTNG mini in my hard drive. This was already retconned as Superman's interpretation of the Source. The Source has no specific shape or form, so people interpret it differently.

Originally posted by Allankles
The Source's has power over the concept of energy (get that first). The very concept of energy, it is the foundation of the expression of energy. So no it can't be replaced as DS noted in DOTNG, however he could attempt to impose his will upon its sapience.
Ds couldn't replace or destroy the Source because he was tapping into his power while Thanos wasn't tapping into Eternity's power for one.

For two he didn't destroy Eternity he imprisoned him just like Ds was about to do to the Source. 😂

Originally posted by Allankles
I said the Source is an aspect of the Presence, what is difficult to understand about being a part of the Presence? The Presence has many aspects, the Word, The Source, Wrath, Mercy. All of these are manifestations of one kind or another but even together only comprise a small fraction of his being.
The Source isn't supreme while the hotu is. End of story.
Originally posted by Allankles
bangin

Where is the Source's interpretation of events there? I already have DOTNG mini in my hard drive. This was already retconned as Superman's interpretation of the Source. The Source has no specific shape or form, so people interpret it differently.

The Source said his(Superman's) resistance lasted long enough and Ds said what, then he explained his fallback option. It is right on the page.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ds couldn't replace or destroy the Source because he was tapping into his power while Thanos wasn't tapping into Eternity's power for one.

For two he didn't destroy Eternity he imprisoned him just like Ds was about to do to the Source. 😂

The Source governs all energy in the DCU so DS could only impose his will upon it. The fact that the IG could overcome Eternity proves that he doesn't function like the Source. Without the Source there's no energy since it governs the very concept of energy and by extension creation.

Originally posted by Allankles
The Source governs all energy in the DCU so DS could only impose his will upon it. The fact that the IG could overcome Eternity proves that he doesn't function like the Source. Without the Source there's no energy since it governs the very concept of energy and by extension creation.
He doesn't have to function like the Source to be above the Source. Lt for example.

Thanos easily imprisons him like Ds was about to do and just like he imprisoned Eternity.

Going by feats the IG wins without much trouble.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He doesn't have to function like the Source to be above the Source. Lt for example.

Thanos easily imprisons him like Ds was about to do and just like he imprisoned Eternity.

The Source is not an anthromorphic entity like Eternity hence the reason DOTNG was retconned. The Source cannot be imprisoned.

Also the IG proves Eternity isn't in the same ballpark as the Source.