Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I can respect that.She hulk once punched Terrax once, and then Thor knocked him out with a punch. I dare say that's relatively easy too xD
LoL, really? I don't think I've seen that one. Well look at it this way, that just shows you how bad ass Thor is, doesn't it? And he's on team 1 xD
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I meant to say WWH.Which is still untrue...
I was referring to their fight on Planet Hulk. However, it was pointed out that Silver Surfer had an obedience disk on him, which restricted his power. I had forgotten this, so I dropped it from my follow up post on why I thought Sentry wasn't a second stringer in this fight.
I must admit that my memory can be pretty crappy sometimes. Feel free to correct me, politely, if I screw up on things like this. Since very few of these threads can ever be proved 100% either way, it all comes down to personal opinions that can only be backed up by past comics that are, at times, awesomely written, or very poorly written...but usually somewhere in between. Even then, one person's interpretation of what's happening on panel can be wildly different than another person's. This is all for fun and I like having fun...even when I'm wrong ;-p
Originally posted by Serious Impact
I was referring to their fight on Planet Hulk. However, it was pointed out that Silver Surfer had an obedience disk on him, which restricted his power. I had forgotten this, so I dropped it from my follow up post on why I thought Sentry wasn't a second stringer in this fight.I must admit that my memory can be pretty crappy sometimes. Feel free to correct me, politely, if I screw up on things like this. Since very few of these threads can ever be proved 100% either way, it all comes down to personal opinions that can only be backed up by past comics that are, at times, awesomely written, or very poorly written...but usually somewhere in between. Even then, one person's interpretation of what's happening on panel can be wildly different than another person's. This is all for fun and I like having fun...even when I'm wrong ;-p
He was never owned on Planet Hulk. Silver Surfer was at his weakest he had ever been, denied access to the Power Cosmic, and only had the strength and durability that his silver coating provided.
He still kicked the crap out of Hulk and the War Bound, and the Shadow Priest clearly said that if he came around again, they would be killed. Silver Surfer then attacked and Hulk and the War Bound managed to destroy his Obedience Disk. Hulk then went on to continuously pound on Silver Surfer.
Silver Surfer then got right back up, unharmed in any way, released their obedience disks and went on his way.
Silver Surfer was never owned in any way.
It's okay dude, our memories get the best of us sometimes. It's happened to me a few times.
Thor can easily hold off both Wonder Woman and Superman off indefinitely with his powers (Vortex creations etc.)or at the very least defeat one or both through battle field removal. Either way, they are not taking Thor out if he doesn't want to be taken out.
Thor also has vast energy manipulation abilities and can even drain the Solar Radiation directly out of Clark.
With Silver Surfer on their team, Superman is liable to get taken out from the beginning. Kyle wouldn't last long at all against Norrin.
Martian Manhunter can definitely beat Sentry, but it will be a very prolonged fight, and Silver Surfer would be done with Kyle before Martian Manhunter accomplished this.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor can easily hold off both Wonder Woman and Superman off indefinitely with his powers (Vortex creations etc.)or at the very least defeat one or both through battle field removal. Either way, they are not taking Thor out if he doesn't want to be taken out.Thor also has vast energy manipulation abilities and can even drain the Solar Radiation directly out of Clark.
With Silver Surfer on their team, Superman is liable to get taken out from the beginning. Kyle wouldn't last long at all against Norrin.
Martian Manhunter can definitely beat Sentry, but it will be a very prolonged fight, and Silver Surfer would be done with Kyle before Martian Manhunter accomplished this.
Saying Kyle wouldn't last at all against norrin is bullshit. Kyle beat Amazo once by himself.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Wondy and Superman vs. Thor
MM vs. Sentry
Surfer vs. Kyle.Thor isn't putting down WW and Superman.
And MM would beat Sentry. MM has pwned Ultraman before.
Kyle can at least hold off surfer.
- Superman and Wonder Woman go down easily.
- Manhunter
- Surfer
That spells out trouble for team 2.
It's a shame you know shit about Thor, never read anything, etc.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Thor doesn't do BFR. He loves to fight too much. He isn't going to drain Superman either. Not in his character set. Plus Wondy carries around too much shit in her disc to get bfr'd.
Thor can win through battle field removal so it is a viable tactic. He can drain Superman as it is part of his power set so it is a viable tactic. If he could absorb and redirect the energy of a Null Bomb, he can drain Clark.
Thor is powerful enough to take both of them head on and come out the clear victor. He is clearly powerful and versatile enough.
At minimum he can hold them off indefinetly.
I didn't get the last part. What does "disc" stand for?
I won't comment on the Wonder Woman part until you clear that up.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Saying Kyle wouldn't last at all against norrin is bullshit. Kyle beat Amazo once by himself.
It isn't bull shit, it's common sense. Kyle wouldn't last against Silver Surfer for any prolonged time.
So what if he beat Amazo by himself?
So have Batman and Nightwing. It depends on the incarnation of Amazo or the version used.
Originally posted by Kris BlazeReported. I read enough about thor to know that half the shit people are saying he can pull, he didn't do against Red Hulk. Go hide.
- Superman and Wonder Woman go down easily.
- Manhunter
- SurferThat spells out trouble for team 2.
It's a shame you know shit about Thor, never read anything, etc.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIt's part of Superman's power set to use T-vo and pwn Thor. Dominus>>>Thor. You see how easy that is.
Thor can win through battle field removal so it is a viable tactic. He can drain Superman as it is part of his power set so it is a viable tactic. If he could absorb and redirect the energy of a Null Bomb, he can drain Clark.Thor is powerful enough to take both of them head on and come out the clear victor. He is clearly powerful and versatile enough.
At minimum he can hold them off indefinetly.
I didn't get the last part. What does "disc" stand for?
I won't comment on the Wonder Woman part until you clear that up.
It isn't bull shit, it's common sense. Kyle wouldn't last any prolonged period if time against Silver Surfer.
So what if he beat Amazo by himself?
So have Batman and Nightwing. It depends on the incarnation of Amazo or the version used.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Reported. I read enough about thor to know that half the shit people are saying he can pull, he didn't do against Red Hulk. Go hide.
So by using PIS you think you'll prove something? please.
What Thor comics did you read pray tell? That let's you make such an educated guess at what Thor can do with the Odinforce.
Please tell me, I'm dying to know.
Kyle seems to be vulnerable against matter/manip. As seen here where superman blue disrupts his nervous system. Surfer has easily affected thousands of beings simultaneously on a genetic and molecular level. Kyle therefore should therfore be very susceptible to similar matter manip moves from surfer. In which case he goes down quick
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Originally posted by Kris Blazehow about u tell me what thor has currently done with the odin force? As I thought. Nothing near what you suggest.
So by using PIS you think you'll prove something? please.What Thor comics did you read pray tell? That let's you make such an educated guess at what Thor can do with the Odinforce.
Please tell me, I'm dying to know.
Originally posted by fangirl101
how about u tell me what thor has currently done with the odin force? As I thought. Nothing near what you suggest.
Near what I suggested? Defeat a mid herald and a high herald?
He was near unaffected by the destroyer's attacks......
Now please, let's hear about all those Thor comics.
Originally posted by fangirl101
how about u tell me what thor has currently done with the odin force? As I thought. Nothing near what you suggest.
You know technically what King Thor did etc. was never retconned or anything a long those lines so it could be used as valid evidence and King Thor's power was immense. He just never used his potential and limited himself.
Not to mention what Rune King Thor did. I'm just saying....
Thor just beat Bor, and took direct attacks from the Destroyer that would have put him down in the past.
He is obviously more powerful and is physically superior to his Classic counterpart.
An attack from the Destroyer has been able to put him down, and he just took multiple direct attacks with no visible physical damage.
Either Wonder Woman or Clark would be hard pressed to top that type of power in anyway.
