Cell vs. Freeza

Originally posted by Tommy Jarvis
Lol, he shielded him, he didn't take the blast directly, which is my point. In any case, that doesn't help your argument that Freeza can beat Cell, because he clearly can't.

Yeah I been said that. He survived the explosion. It doesn't matter if he took a direct hit or if he held a shield up he still survived it. You don't have to neccessarily be hurt to survive something. Also if you read my earlier posts today then you would've understood where I stand on this.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'd like to go on record as the one who waited. It was me, so I gladly say, "you are welcome."

Edit- this kind of tickles a little bit. Tickly and tingly.

Thank you for saying you're welcome.

Originally posted by Icy Ninja
That wouldn't work on cell when he went to self destruct they said it was a planet destroyer that's why Goku had to warp them away. Cell survived a planet destroying blast and he was the very center of it. I highly doubt Freiza has anything as powerful enough to wipe out everyone of Cell's cells and do it before Cell can stop him and Cells speed>then Freiza speed

I know but that would work on any of the Saiyans.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
What the hell does Goku and Pikkon have to do with anything?

It was used to clarify how much stronger Cell is than Frieza.

Guess you can call that another example of how much stronger Cell is than Frieza.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Or we can just agree that piece of noncanon fail was crap.

First Gokou wasn't really that serious against him, as he gave him multiple chances to give up and change. Two SSJ Gokou against Freeza was weaker than SSJ Trunks when he first appeared and treated Metal Freeza like he was nothing. SSJ Vegeta was in turn more powerful than both. And then USSJ Vegeta was more powerful than he was against 19. And Perfect Cell treated him like he was nothing.

Wrong Goku wasn't toying with Freeza and if you read the manga you would see that. Goku was only slighty more powerful than Freeza. Freeza's power level apparenlty drops quicker than Goku's did and it was probably because he took alot of damage before he used 100 percent of his power.

Actually trunks was more powerful than Cell. He just didnt have the speed. Argubly he was overrall stronger than cell After he got healed and went back to his time. If he ever goes Super Saiyan 2 he would be insane

Wrong again. The manga stated that Cell was only using 40 percent of his full power against Trunks and only 50 percent against Goku. The only person he used 100 percent of his power on was Gohan when he went SSJ 2

Anyway I noticed alot of these dumb Dragonball vs threads. Broly vs SSJ Gogeto or Broly vs Omega Shenron. Jeesh watch the show before you make dumb threads. Freiza isn't stronger than King Cold based on the manga or Cell in his first form.

Cell can pretty much suck Freeza in and make an ultimate form

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Even better 😛, though I did like Olibu to be honest. Was a pretty cool filler character. He should've been in one of the Budokai Tenkaichi games (at least the 3rd one). 😬

Yeah, that's the one. ^^ Glad you agree. 👆

Originally posted by big juggy man
First Gokou wasn't really that serious against him, as he gave him multiple chances to give up and change. Two SSJ Gokou against Freeza was weaker than SSJ Trunks when he first appeared and treated Metal Freeza like he was nothing. SSJ Vegeta was in turn more powerful than both. And then USSJ Vegeta was more powerful than he was against 19. And Perfect Cell treated him like he was nothing.

Wrong Goku wasn't toying with Freeza and if you read the manga you would see that. Goku was only slighty more powerful than Freeza. Freeza's power level apparenlty drops quicker than Goku's did and it was probably because he took alot of damage before he used 100 percent of his power.

Actually trunks was more powerful than Cell. He just didnt have the speed. Argubly he was overrall stronger than cell After he got healed and went back to his time. If he ever goes Super Saiyan 2 he would be insane

Wrong again. The manga stated that Cell was only using 40 percent of his full power against Trunks and only 50 percent against Goku. The only person he used 100 percent of his power on was Gohan when he went SSJ 2

Anyway I noticed alot of these dumb Dragonball vs threads. Broly vs SSJ Gogeto or Broly vs Omega Shenron. Jeesh watch the show before you make dumb threads. Freiza isn't stronger than King Cold based on the manga or Cell in his first form.

Where was it stated that he only used what percent of his strenght. I dont remember seeing anything of the sorts

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
That was in the fillers mind you, after Pikkon defeated them both easily. Goku mentioned how he couldn't defeat Cell.

No, I'm talking about earlier, when he had to use King Kai's planet as a a stop in order to find Dende to make him the new Kami

How is this debate still even going? It is very clear that Cell stomps.

Cell wins hands down

I know, why is it still going? Even a blind person knows who wins.

Originally posted by big juggy man
First Gokou wasn't really that serious against him, as he gave him multiple chances to give up and change. Two SSJ Gokou against Freeza was weaker than SSJ Trunks when he first appeared and treated Metal Freeza like he was nothing. SSJ Vegeta was in turn more powerful than both. And then USSJ Vegeta was more powerful than he was against 19. And Perfect Cell treated him like he was nothing.

Wrong Goku wasn't toying with Freeza and if you read the manga you would see that. Goku was only slighty more powerful than Freeza. Freeza's power level apparenlty drops quicker than Goku's did and it was probably because he took alot of damage before he used 100 percent of his power.

Actually trunks was more powerful than Cell. He just didnt have the speed. Argubly he was overrall stronger than cell After he got healed and went back to his time. If he ever goes Super Saiyan 2 he would be insane

Wrong again. The manga stated that Cell was only using 40 percent of his full power against Trunks and only 50 percent against Goku. The only person he used 100 percent of his power on was Gohan when he went SSJ 2

Anyway I noticed alot of these dumb Dragonball vs threads. Broly vs SSJ Gogeto or Broly vs Omega Shenron. Jeesh watch the show before you make dumb threads. Freiza isn't stronger than King Cold based on the manga or Cell in his first form.

no, trunks wasnt really more powerful than cell. what he did was focus all of his ki into strength / power thus creating the appearance that he was more powerful. vegeta could have also been more powerful than cell if he also focused on power. but he saw through this as did goku. they both new that if they pumped up their power they'd be stupidly slow. trunks didnt see this coz he was green when it came to fighting.

also, cell showed trunks the error of this by also pumping up his power thus becoming more powerful than trunks (and probably just as slow).

and where does it say that cell was only using 40% of his power vs trunks and 50% against goku? i dont seem to recall watching it nor reading it.

Why is this thread still here?

Shut up.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Shut up.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
no, trunks wasnt really more powerful than cell. what he did was focus all of his ki into strength / power thus creating the appearance that he was more powerful. vegeta could have also been more powerful than cell if he also focused on power. but he saw through this as did goku. they both new that if they pumped up their power they'd be stupidly slow. trunks didnt see this coz he was green when it came to fighting.

also, cell showed trunks the error of this by also pumping up his power thus becoming more powerful than trunks (and probably just as slow).

and where does it say that cell was only using 40% of his power vs trunks and 50% against goku? i dont seem to recall watching it nor reading it.

I remember the goku part but not trunks

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
no, u!

no, u!

ABC logic, Cell wins 😛

My opinion, depends on which body cell is using...anything short of the body that comes from absorbing 17 & 18, can be taken care of 3rd form Frieza...or his true form?.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
ABC logic, Cell wins 😛

My opinion, depends on which body cell is using...anything short of the body that comes from absorbing 17 & 18, can be taken care of 3rd form Frieza...or his true form?.

Frieza's true form might beat Cell's 1st form though if he's barely absorbed any humans at all yet.

Heh, well, I don't really know much about their capabilities as fighters, or their power levels (those might help out here though 😛?)...so I can't really debate about it. My opinion still stands 😛.