Everyone keeps on saying how the Dr. Manhattan/Mars scenes were boring, but I found those to be some of the most interesting. I really felt for his character. I was skeptical about them keeping Billy Crudup's voice for the character, but I think it worked, because it allowed for the interesting juxtaposition of someone who's simultaneously human and inhuman.
Also, how badass were the opening credits? (Answer: extremely).
I really enjoyed this film.
It wasn't perfect as I could complain about plenty of things, but I can do that with any film, really.
However, this movie is one of my all time favorite movies, now.
MUCH better than The Dark Knight.
I can usually tell if a movie is good because I don't find myself wondering when the end will come. I found myself waiting for what would happen next (despite knowing the story from the comic.)
I give it 9.5 out of 10.
I may change that. But, for now, it is in my top 5 movies.
The characters were BETTER looking/designed in the movies than in the comics. Some of the plot elements are heavily altered from the original, however, on the whole, I like the movie's story better.
IMO, this is an example of a comic book to movie adaption in which the movie is better than the book. Yes, I said it.
No I hope all of you think of this objectively instead of falling into group think and blankie syndrome.
Originally posted by Darth Jello
I feel like Rorschach was dead on how i heard/saw him in my head in the comics. I think he does portray a subtle emotion.
He does. That's part of the characterisation.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I walked into Dark Knight trying to hate it
Did that feel at all sensible or reasonable while you were doing it?
Originally posted by Toku King
You can't get in, parents or not. If you're under 18 here, you cannot see it. Period.
That's technically not true. Nothing prevents minors from viewing a rated R movie with a parent or guardian. This rule only applies to NC-17 movies (formerly Rated 'X'😉.
Unless the rules have changed in the last 9 months or so, or vary by state (which I find unlikely given the nationwide acceptance of the MPAA rules). I used to be a manager at a movie theater, and we had to know the exact letter of the laws in order to adhere to them, and to explain them to the endless torrents of parents and/or minors who were upset with such rules.
There were small children at both showings I went to, btw. If you have information that would prove otherwise, I'd be interested to see it.
Originally posted by Kazenji
Whatever happen to spoiler tags........
A day after the Watchmen movie comes out, and a thread dedicated only to discussion of that movie? The spoiler tag here is common sense. If you don't want spoilers, stay out of the thread. There are, of course, certain points of internet etiquette about revealing information that should be observed. This is not one of them, as the amount of filtering that would need to happen would neuter discussion to the point of ridiculousness.
Not trying to be harsh, just honest. I hope you see the movie soon, and enjoy it.
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
I agree. The ending apart, it was pretty faithful to the graphic novel, but it was just missing something. Rorschach stole the show, and most of his scenes were really good, but the rest was just...'good'.Why are you going to see it again so soon?
I promised some friends i'd go with them
I also feel that Rorschach and Manhattan were the strongest parts of the movie. I had a problem with Nite Owl and silk Spectre.
Originally posted by BackFire
Thought the movie was good. Never read the novel so can't compare it to that, but as a movie it was solid.Complex review I just wrote right there. Think about it and it will set in.
I think I get what you're saying...I'm going to go out on a limb here...Basically, minus all your fancy words and la-de-da sentences, you're saying that you thought the movie was 'good', right?
(I hope I'm right because I've got a feeling I might win a prize or something...)
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
At the time it did I wasn't in the best of moods to go and watch a movie was pretty much dragged to it saw it on the IMAX though.
Eats shoots and leaves.
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
I think I get what you're saying...I'm going to go out on a limb here...Basically, minus all your fancy words and la-de-da sentences, you're saying that you thought the movie was 'good', right?(I hope I'm right because I've got a feeling I might win a prize or something...)
Hmmm... I think you're reading too much into that review. Don't put words in his mouth. You're missing all the existentialistic elements he's stressing, no wonder you come to such a simplistic conclusion.
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I agree with Impediment on both points.
It was an OK film, quite a lot of good stuff (I really liked the Dr Manhattan on Mars/ origin bits, Rorschach was mostly good) but quite a lot of pretty bad stuff, too (the ending kind of sucked, not at all sure about Ozymandias, they kind of ****ed up the prison riot scene).
I enjoyed it, though. Overall, a decent film. Of course, I couldn't approach it objectively, but I realise it could've been a hell of a lot worse, and it's definitely, in my opinion, much better than the previous Moore adaptions (which were all god-awful, including V for Vendetta).
Originally posted by Newjak
Liked the movie, very solid although there were a few odd scenes.But in someways I think I preferred this new ending to the comics original.
That's because an alien killing half of New York wouldn't unite the world leaders. It could given the Russians a reason to throw back some vodka and dance, but there's no reason why they would combine their strength with America.
An almost simultaneous attack on the major cities in the world is far more logical. Of course this means that Bubastis was pretty much pointless, etc.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
That's because an alien killing half of New York wouldn't unite the world leaders. It could given the Russians a reason to throw back some vodka and dance, but there's no reason why they would combine their strength with America.An almost simultaneous attack on the major cities in the world is far more logical. Of course this means that Bubastis was pretty much pointless, etc.
But a worldwide attack by America's own 'weapon'? Surely that wouldn't make the World trust the US any more?
Plus, the 'epilogue'/ conclusion didn't work for me, either. The bit in the New Frontiersman was out of place, I thought. Dan and Lawrie's reaction (storming off, looking pissed off at Veidt, still doubting him) was completely different to their response in the comics, and, honestly, didn't work- for me.
Originally posted by Kovacs86Yeah but when New York got bombed with everybody else it's a much easier sale to the world that DM went AWOL, and DM is a very legitimate known threat that the entire world knew about.
But a worldwide attack by America's own 'weapon'? Surely that wouldn't make the World trust the US any more?Plus, the 'epilogue'/ conclusion didn't work for me, either. The bit in the New Frontiersman was out of place, I thought. Dan and Lawrie's reaction (storming off, looking pissed off at Veidt, still doubting him) was completely different to their response in the comics, and, honestly, didn't work- for me.
If he went rouge every world leader would be trying to hook up with each other to try and do something.
As for Dan and Lawrie. Yeah I think in the comic their reactions were a bit different but along the same lines. In the end they knew they couldn't do anything so they just wanted to forge a new life with what was left.
I have yet too see the movie, but the IGN review kinda made me felt disappointing about the ending
Dropping the squid isn't the problem; it's that the logic of the new finale that Snyder and the writers came up with doesn't hold up under the least bit of scrutiny. On the surface level, making Doctor Manhattan the scapegoat sounds like a great alternative... until you realize that there is simply no way the countries of the world are going to set aside their differences and join hands in peace after America's ultimate super-weapon -- which he has been touted as for the whole film -- is to blame for the deaths of millions. The U.S. and U.S.S.R. are at the very brink of war, remember. Complete and total nuclear annihilation is at hand, with the rest of the world wondering if America might use the blue-skinned ace it has up its sleeve (as it did to win in Vietnam). So given that state of anxiety, if Doctor Manhattan took out the world's major cities, why would any foreign nation now want to work with America for a better future? If there was ever a time when they'd want to wipe us off the map, it'd be after such an attack. As silly as the squid was, it worked because it was an external threat that united these disparate human factions in a common cause against a more powerful outside force. Imagine if the world knew that the squid was an American creation, there would have been no Utopian outcome. Also, by losing the squid and Veidt's experiments in genetic engineering that created it, the inclusion of Bubastis in the film makes absolutely no sense. It's completely random: "And now, for no apparent reason, a blue tiger with antlers."
I get why people say the new ending still works, but I do like the ending from the comic, an outside alien thread is a much more powerful reason for the world to unite, than a blue god=man exploding IMO
... besides the inclusion of Bubastis makes no sense. I get why they dropped the original ending, not having the Black Freighter story, and the whole thing about the writer and those other artists involved with the creation of the squid, but none of that is necessary when you can have a little more expository dialogue from Veidt....
... but I do have to see the movie first, is just that I'm not as excited anymore...