Originally posted by Allankles
Orion can't take DS without outside help, either the unpredictable energies of the Astro Force send the OE beams back at DS or the Source channelling its power through him per DOTNG.
Orion had a small advantage against DC during Orion #5...without any boosts or anything else. Both Orion and Superman give DS hell individually.
Originally posted by AllanklesDs was losing and used olsen because on his own he couldn't get the job done. You are helping my case.
Except the recent encounters Supes had with DS in his 4th world incarnation, where he was totally outclassed, twice.Orion can't take DS without outside help, either the unpredictable energies of the Astro Force send the OE beams back at DS or the Source channelling its power through him per DOTNG.
Ds ran from Supes in the superman/batman comic as well.
Orion took an dripped out Ds's heart by his lonesome. He called off help.
Originally posted by EnyalusI'd say both can easily beat Ds 5 out of ten and with Superman personally I give it to him 6-7 out of ten against Ds anymore. He destroys him when they battle.
Orion had a small advantage against DC during Orion #5...without any boosts or anything else. Both Orion and Superman give DS hell individually.
Originally posted by EnyalusNo. In countdown, DS was literally out of superman's class. Superman let thousands of people die in a fight becuz he couldn't help jimmy olsen. Orion ha a small advantage against DS when DS let him. Which was revealed later on.
Orion had a small advantage against DC during Orion #5...without any boosts or anything else. Both Orion and Superman give DS hell individually.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Nope there is little chance for DS. He can beat them all individual, but all together?? I don't think so
Which is what I was saying. A straight hit of the Omega Sanction dispatches any of these 3, but they bring speed, energy blast, agility and strength into the equation.
Too many variableS for one person to take unless you have Galactus level durability to tank their combined efforts.
Originally posted by AllanklesOr you can grow Giant sized for more durability.
Which is what I was saying. A straight hit of the Omega Sanction dispatches any of these 3, but they bring speed, energy blast, agility and strength into the equation.Too many variableS for one person to take unless you have Galactus level durability to tank their combined efforts.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Orion had a small advantage against DC during Orion #5...without any boosts or anything else. Both Orion and Superman give DS hell individually.
That fight was purely physical and DS lost because his own Omega energies were diverted back to him. Which is what I referenced already, when I mentioned Orion has never beaten DS without outside factors.
Originally posted by fangirl101In countdown Superman was beating the hell out of Ds. He needed olsen because he couldn't beat him on his own. Supes has him outclassed and can avoid the omega beams if he has to.
No. In countdown, DS was literally out of superman's class. Superman let thousands of people die in a fight becuz he couldn't help jimmy olsen. Orion ha a small advantage against DS when DS let him. Which was revealed later on.
Originally posted by AllanklesYes, and without Ds' omegas he loses. He can't seem to hit Supes with them anymore and he loses and against Orion he can't beat him unless he hits him with the omegas. Physically both are superior to Ds.
That fight was purely physical and DS lost because his own Omega energies were diverted back to him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, and without Ds' omegas he loses. He can't seem to hit Supes with them anymore and he loses and against Orion he can't beat him unless he hits him with the omegas. Physically both are superior to Ds.
Eh! I said DS is more powerful than all 3 of the guys here, you're not really addressing anything I've said.
Originally posted by AllanklesThat was last year. 😂
I said recent encounters how many years ago was that? Not to mention he was far form 100% in Batman/Superman. Orion was amped by the Source post DOTNG which is the period Arena takes place.
Orion tapped into Ds's amp so when he lost his amp so did Orion. Did ya miss that part?
Originally posted by AllanklesDs isn't more powerful though. Thanos is by far the most powerful. Ds can't even own a top tier by his lonesome anymore and you really think he is the most powerful?
Eh! I said DS is more powerful than all 3 of the guys here, you're not really addressing anything I've said.
Originally posted by Allankles
That fight was purely physical and DS lost because his own Omega energies were diverted back to him. Which is what I referenced already, when I mentioned Orion has never beaten DS without outside factors.
Diverted back by Orion. You're making it sound like DS was cheapshotted or something. Orion was winning. He had the advantage. In a fair, straight up fight. So has Superman on more than one occasion. And Thanos....well, don't get Quan and me started.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That was last year. 😂Orion tapped into Ds's amp so when he lost his amp so did Orion. Did ya miss that part?
I was referencing Batman/Superman - old news and DS was operating at 50% or less, which is why he retreated. The last times he faced Supes he dealt with him with little difficulty.
And Orion's spirit was resurrected by the Source, to be its instrument to usher in the 5th world and stop the last New God, DS.