Originally posted by EnyalusI think even the writer admitted that Ds had to give his all in that fight because anything less and Orion would know something was off in that particular instance and that Ds was up to something.
Diverted back by Orion. You're making it sound like DS was cheapshotted or something. Orion was winning. He had the advantage. In a fair, straight up fight. So has Superman on more than one occasion. And Thanos....well, don't get Quan and me started.
Originally posted by quanchi112Epic fail. In this Forum He'd know he was fighting Orion Superman and Thanos and would do what ever it took to win. He could just turn Orion into kryptonite and watch superman die as he Oe's Thanos repeatedly. Or steps on him giant sized.
Ds amped right after Supes in the same comic. It isn't in character for him to do so unless someone is giant sized.
Originally posted by AllanklesNo, he wasn't. The only time you can go back to Ds owning Superman is years back. Supes owns him nowadays on his own.
I was referencing Batman/Superman - old news and DS was operating at 50% or less.And Orion's spirit was resurrected by the Source to be its instrument to usher in the 5th world against the last New God, DS.
Please prove he was operating at 50 percent. You can't and just made something up you can't back up.
Originally posted by fangirl101He can't do that under his own power. He used the amp and his control over olsen to do so.
Epic fail. In this Forum He'd know he was fighting Orion Superman and Thanos and would do what ever it took to win. He could just turn Orion into kryptonite and watch superman die as he Oe's Thanos repeatedly. Or steps on him giant sized.
Ds giant sized was nothing special at all. He beat jimmy olsen. 😂 Then got his heart ripped out by his son.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Darkseid BFR's Superman and Orion, and then trashes Thanos.
If he only actually did this in the comics where he's gotten wrecked you'd have a point. It's a nice thought but we have on panel proof and facts that say he can take Orion and Supes individually and can lose but both at the same time.. and adding thanos in there. Spite
I love the he'll grow to giant size theory.... where was this at in the aformentioned losses and when DD wrecked him.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Diverted back by Orion. You're making it sound like DS was cheapshotted or something. Orion was winning. He had the advantage. In a fair, straight up fight. So has Superman on more than one occasion. And Thanos....well, don't get Quan and me started.
I've read the Orion series. The Omega energies are what put down DS there, and I already referenced the Astro Force.
Orion recognizes that it was the Omega energies that defeated DS, that is all the info I need.
The physical battle is irrelevant, DS' power isn't distinguished by fists but the Omega Force.
A liberal application of his shadow demons or a direct hit of the Omega sanction would be enough to fell these 3 in single combat . However, the TC made sure to make it an unfair contest.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiIt is quite odd that he continually gets embarrassed by Superman time and time again for years and you still have people arguing that Ds is better than him. It defies all logic and reasoning.
If he only actually did this in the comics where he's gotten wrecked you'd have a point. It's a nice thought but we have on panel proof and facts that say he can take Orion and Supes individually and can lose but both at the same time.. and adding thanos in there. SpiteI love the he'll grow to giant size theory.... where was this at in the aformentioned losses and when DD wrecked him.
Originally posted by AllanklesWhen has Ds put down supes with his omega sanction? When has he put someone down who is above top tier?
I've read the Orion series. The Omega energies are what put down DS there, and I already referenced the Astro Force.Orion recognizes that it was the Omega energies that defeated DS, that is all the info I need.
The physical battle is irrelevant, DS' power isn't distinguished by fists but the Omega Force. A direct hit of the Omega sanction would be enough to fell this 3 in single combat.
Ds is weaker than all three strength wise and powerwise Thanos is well above him.
Originally posted by Allankles
The physical battle is irrelevant, DS' power isn't distinguished by fists but the Omega Force. A direct hit of the Omega sanction would be enough to fell this 3 in single combat. However, the TC made sure to make it an unfair contest.
Superman has dodged DS's beams, Orion has turned them back with the AF, and Thanos has tech and energy shields as well as energy manipulation to toy with.
They're not getting put down by DS. At all.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosithe last time superman faced DS, he needed the amp of the miracle machine. DS has already pwned Orion with a wave of his hand. He's bitched Superman with three punches. And he has only gotten beaten once by Superman in comics. And That was after his own omegas hit him. Too bad that won't be happening any more since DS now uses the omega sanction and the Omega trap.
If he only actually did this in the comics where he's gotten wrecked you'd have a point. It's a nice thought but we have on panel proof and facts that say he can take Orion and Supes individually and can lose but both at the same time.. and adding thanos in there. SpiteI love the he'll grow to giant size theory.... where was this at in the aformentioned losses and when DD wrecked him.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Let's not forget that DS is powerful enough these days to cause multiversal crashing singularities by his own power.
Again not his own power. How many times do we have to go over this... The war, him falling and the ALE all contributed greatly to him being able to do anything. As I pointed out with a wave of his hand under his own powerset there woud've been no singularity. It took all of those things and a powerup to fall into place to cause the singularity and what happened after. Epic fail... Under his own power lol.
Originally posted by EnyalusWhat the hell? DS could just crush time and space around all three and the planet they stand on. Did you read final crisis at all?
Superman has dodged DS's beams, Orion has turned them back with the AF, and Thanos has tech and energy shields as well as energy manipulation to toy with.They're not getting put down by DS. At all.
Originally posted by fangirl101
the last time superman faced DS, he needed the amp of the miracle machine. DS has already pwned Orion with a wave of his hand. He's bitched Superman with three punches. And he has only gotten beaten once by Superman in comics. And That was after his own omegas hit him. Too bad that won't be happening any more since DS now uses the omega sanction and the Omega trap.
Originally posted by fangirl101Ds had the ale the entire story.
What the hell? DS could just crush time and space around all three and the planet they stand on. Did you read final crisis at all?
Originally posted by fangirl101
What the hell? DS could just crush time and space around all three and the planet they stand on. Did you read final crisis at all?
I assumed that 1) he had his heart for this battle. And 2) that he wasn't falling in this battle...the only reasons why the singularity happened in the first place.
So no, he can't do it at will.