Gladiator vs Orion.

Started by Lord Feron9 pages
Originally posted by lawest9
I don't know what shapes your opinion that glads is mightier than supes, but heres a little heads up: orion has stalemated supes H2H on at least two occasions that i know of, while in crossovers supes has handed both hulk and thor their asses before while both thor and hulk have handed glads his. so logically i will have to say that orion wins both fight scenarios!

Supes fighting Hulk was not canon and can not be use used same with the JLA/Avengers crossover due to new forum rules.

So Nay to your logic!!!

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Supes fighting Hulk was not canon and can not be use used same with the JLA/Avengers crossover due to new forum rules.

So Nay to your logic!!!

At least JLA/Av is canon to one of the publishing companies. And Glads even got whooped by Masterson Thor, weaker than the Thor in the JLA/Avengers period.

A h2h fight is close because of Glads stats the second scenario Orion whoops him, the AF is quite versatile and deadly in full force as many have discovered.

1: 5/10 a split win
2: 7-8/10 Orion

Originally posted by Allankles
At least JLA/Av is canon to one of the publishing companies. And Glads even got whooped by Masterson Thor, weaker than the Thor in the JLA/Avengers period.

A h2h fight is close because of Glads stats the second scenario Orion whoops him, the AF is quite versatile and deadly in full force as many have discovered.

We don't use JLA/Avengers here, so why does that even matter?

Originally posted by Mindset
We don't use JLA/Avengers here, so why does that even matter?

What he said, THe rules psecifically say no JLA/Avenger cross over.

So double Nay to your logic!

Originally posted by Lord Feron
What he said, THe rules psecifically say no JLA/Avenger cross over.

So double Nay to your logic!

the rules r shit in that regareds. Meant to pander to marvel lovong noobs who can't handle the truth. Cuz io just got thru reading a dc story where krona comes from that CANON story. The gamesmaster and photon also have the crossover mentioned in their bios. We might as well rule secret invasion and amazons attack to be non canon as well since forum members don't like those stories either.

Originally posted by fangirl101
the rules r shit in that regareds. Meant to pander to marvel lovong noobs who can't handle the truth. Cuz io just got thru reading a dc story where krona comes from that CANON story. The gamesmaster and photon also have the crossover mentioned in their bios. We might as well rule secret invasion and amazons attack to be non canon as well since forum members don't like those stories either.
Originally posted by fangirl101
the rules r shit in that regareds. Meant to pander to marvel lovong noobs who can't handle the truth. Cuz io just got thru reading a dc story where krona comes from that CANON story. The gamesmaster and photon also have the crossover mentioned in their bios. We might as well rule secret invasion and amazons attack to be non canon as well since forum members don't like those stories either.

What she said, I was merely pointing out how we have a fight with Thor and Supes that's officially canon, and by that comparison Gladiator comes up short.

Anywhoo, Orion definitely takes scenario 2. Scenario one is a toss up but I'd favour Orion due to the fact that he also has considerable super speed and has demonstrated top level agility and fighting skill.

Originally posted by Mindset

😂

Originally posted by Mindset
We don't use JLA/Avengers here, so why does that even matter?

It matters to the total picture I guess. The whole nine yards and all that.

The correct answer was, it doesn't matter.

There's no right or wrong answer, but for a direct combat related comparison it most definitely matters.

Originally posted by Allankles
At least JLA/Av is canon to one of the publishing companies. And Glads even got whooped by Masterson Thor, weaker than the Thor in the JLA/Avengers period.

A h2h fight is close because of Glads stats the second scenario Orion whoops him, the AF is quite versatile and deadly in full force as many have discovered.

interesting that you left out the part about masterson thor using living lighning.

Originally posted by Allankles
There's no right or wrong answer, but for a direct combat related comparison it most definitely matters.
Nope, what I said was the right answer.

Originally posted by Mindset
We don't use JLA/Avengers here, so why does that even matter?

Because the rules only stop from using it in debates..it stops posters from using it as evidence...the rules do nothing to stop someone or any poster from factoring it in to their opinion on who will win....no rule will ever stop that 😉

Originally posted by starlock
Because the rules only stop from using it in debates..it stops posters from using it as evidence...the rules do nothing to stop someone or any poster from factoring it in to their opinion on who will win....no rule will ever stop that 😉
People could use movie Superman and factor it in to their opinions of Superman as well, for that matter.

Originally posted by starlock
Because the rules only stop from using it in debates..it stops posters from using it as evidence...the rules do nothing to stop someone or any poster from factoring it in to their opinion on who will win....no rule will ever stop that 😉

Which is what I was saying, it colours a direct comparison between Supes and Glads and given that Orion has a victory over Supes and has stalemated him on other occasions it's going to colour how I view the outcome of Orion-Glads.

Originally posted by Allankles
What she said, I was merely pointing out how we have a fight with Thor and Supes that's officially canon, and by that comparison Gladiator comes up short.

Anywhoo, Orion definitely takes scenario 2. Scenario one is a toss up but I'd favour Orion due to the fact that he also has considerable super speed and has demonstrated top level agility and fighting skill.

just being an @$$ here because DC fanboys like to bring this up in thanos threads but when has orion shown real super speed. As in running one place to the next. according to most of the dc cry baby when the roles are reversed and it's a marvel brick against a dc uber they like to bring that us to make it seem like the marvel brick is as slow as the rhino and the dc uber is the flash. So just posing the question how fast has Orion been show to run and move on pannel and for it to be stated.

to answer the question though
1st battle glads 6 out of 10
2nd 6 out of 10 for Orion

Astro force may have seemed powerful during the 80's in dc but it's pretty common placed now

I give Orion the win in the 2nd because of mother box

Originally posted by jasofisc
just being an @$$ here because DC fanboys like to bring this up in thanos threads but when has orion shown real super speed. As in running one place to the next. according to most of the dc cry baby when the roles are reversed and it's a marvel brick against a dc uber they like to bring that us to make it seem like the marvel brick is as slow as the rhino and the dc uber is the flash. So just posing the question how fast has Orion been show to run and move on pannel and for it to be stated.

I have a few scans from JKW and the Orion series. He can propel his body FTL especially when he has his equipment.

Without his equipment he's said to be able to match and counter people who can move at super speed like the new god Vykin's mom, whose a combat master.

Basically he can move FTL and has demonstrated super speed at cqc combat range. I'll post them later if you'll like a bit busy atm to look for them.

too bad orion was the ares of the Justice league. he came in kicked a lot of but then vasly marginalized for the rest of his time there because he wasn't ironic enough. i've always seen him on pare with sups