Originally posted by jasofisc
too bad orion was the ares of the Justice league. he came in kicked a lot of but then vasly marginalized for the rest of his time there because he wasn't ironic enough. i've always seen him on pare with sups
Orion was the only one who was able to stop Superman when he'd been sun amping and had pwned the league.
Orion also was able to seriously injure the star conquerer where Superman failed with his mightiest blows to make it flinch.
He's also the only one who could control universal destroying quantum energies.
Originally posted by Allankles
I have a few scans from JKW and the Orion series. He can propel his body FTL especially when he has his equipment.Without his equipment he's said to be able to match and counter people who can move at super speed like the new god Vykin's mom, whose a combat master.
Basically he can move FTL and has demonstrated super speed at cqc combat range. I'll post them later if you'll like a bit busy atm to look for them.
don't worry about posting them, i know your right. It's just if this was a marvel character because it was only fights dc fanboys would say that the other character wasn't using there speed. Also just want to point out that hulk and thor (the key word being thor) has simmalr feats but no dc fanboy ever recognizes them. I think if you can fight and keep up with someone who has super speed then that means you also have super speed but that doesn't seen to work for marvel.
Originally posted by jasofiscI've never seen Thor run at superspeed. Or use multiple imaging punching or kicking. He certainly can react at ftl. And block at ftl.
don't worry about posting them, i know your right. It's just if this was a marvel character because it was only fights dc fanboys would say that the other character wasn't using there speed. Also just want to point out that hulk and thor (the key word being thor) has simmalr feats but no dc fanboy ever recognizes them. I think if you can fight and keep up with someone who has super speed then that means you also have super speed but that doesn't seen to work for marvel.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Orion does move at superspeed. check the range of abilities thread I posted on Orion and Thor. Orion has matched speed with mr. miracle, Demons who were using Superspeed, and he used it to kill an entire platton of DS finest warriors. With no weapons or harness.Orion was the only one who was able to stop Superman when he'd been sun amping and had pwned the league.
Orion also was able to seriously injure the star conquerer where Superman failed with his mightiest blows to make it flinch.
He's also the only one who could control universal destroying quantum energies.
yet one shoted by doomsday and a host of other embarrassing failers. also were did it say he was using superspeed the likes of glads? I do agree with you though just showing how the unless it states that he was moving at light speed or keeping up with the flash in a foot race is very frusterating logic since there is other ways of showing super speed.
Originally posted by jasofiscUm. It's out right stated that Orion is using superspeed in my thread in narration. And Orion doesn't have a host of embarrassing failers. Please show me these failures. I own nearly every single new gods story ever. even the alternate timelines which are ALSO cannon to the new gods. They are like the lt. they exist in myriad.
yet one shoted by doomsday and a host of other embarrassing failers. also were did it say he was using superspeed the likes of glads? I do agree with you though just showing how the unless it states that he was moving at light speed or keeping up with the flash in a foot race is very frusterating logic since there is other ways of showing super speed.
Originally posted by fangirl101
I've never seen Thor run at superspeed. Or use multiple imaging punching or kicking. He certainly can react at ftl. And block at ftl.
look at the scans of him digging a trench around quick silver and others before they can react. Also puck has used multiple imaging punching and kicking it's just an art thing. Also just like you stated about iron fighting super speed demons thor has fought balder, glads, hyperon all of which have super speed.
this is the perfect example of the double standered
Originally posted by Enyalus
I haven't seen Orion do that. Except once while kicking, and that wasn't like after-images of different kicks, it was the same kick being redrawn along the same path.
Originally posted by jasofiscThere is no double standard. I've stated that I've never seen thor use superspeed. Not that it didn't happen. I've even stated that he has ftl reflexes etc.
look at the scans of him digging a trench around quick silver and others before they can react. Also puck has used multiple imaging punching and kicking it's just an art thing. Also just like you stated about iron fighting super speed demons thor has fought balder, glads, hyperon all of which have super speed.this is the perfect example of the double standered
Originally posted by fangirl101
Um. It's out right stated that Orion is using superspeed in my thread in narration. And Orion doesn't have a host of embarrassing failers. Please show me these failures. I own nearly every single new gods story ever. even the alternate timelines which are ALSO cannon to the new gods. They are like the lt. they exist in myriad.
so you count superman causal brushing him aside in the alternate time line where supes was rasised on apoclipse as cannon. Ok if that's how you want it.
his embarsing failers are mainly in his time with the JLA. Like getting beat by big barda or one shot by the general.
my point was that he's not given the respect he is due when in team books
Originally posted by jasofiscSuperman in an alternate time line doesn't meant to be used as a measuring stick since we know several alternate supermen are more powerful thant he main one. The new Gods also fluxuate in power in thier myriad existances as well.
so you count superman causal brushing him aside in the alternate time line where supes was rasised on apoclipse as cannon. Ok if that's how you want it.his embarsing failers are mainly in his time with the JLA. Like getting beat by big barda or one shot by the general.
my point was that he's not given the respect he is due when in team books
And Orion also was the one to stop superman in jla. as well as hurt the star conquerer. in a team book. and the general was stronger than superman and wonder woman combined.
Originally posted by fangirl101
the rules r shit in that regareds. Meant to pander to marvel lovong noobs who can't handle the truth. Cuz io just got thru reading a dc story where krona comes from that CANON story. The gamesmaster and photon also have the crossover mentioned in their bios. We might as well rule secret invasion and amazons attack to be non canon as well since forum members don't like those stories either.
the rules are the rules, and not meant to pander to anyone. you don't like it? tough.
Originally posted by fangirl101Well said fangirl, and i agree totally, marvel fanboys want it all their own way!
the rules r shit in that regareds. Meant to pander to marvel lovong noobs who can't handle the truth. Cuz io just got thru reading a dc story where krona comes from that CANON story. The gamesmaster and photon also have the crossover mentioned in their bios. We might as well rule secret invasion and amazons attack to be non canon as well since forum members don't like those stories either.