Gladiator vs Orion.

Originally posted by Captain REX
If there is one more bout of bashing in this thread by anyone at all, I will close it and hand a warning to the offender.

Fangirl101, you really need to cool your jets. There are other ways of telling people that you disagree with them without bashing. I don't know why you don't get that.

Naija boy, Nihilist, please don't fuel the flames that are Fangirl101's temper.

Originally posted by Mindset
Ok, let's not only use our solar system, what other moons are bigger than planets?

If you don't want to just use our solar system then actually post information to back up your claims, rather than just continually saying some moons are bigger.

The black hole Supes held in his hand can not swallow the entire solar system. Not that that has anything to do with what we've been discussing, the fact that you believe the planet Glads destroyed was smaller than a moon.

^Just so you don't miss this. 😉

Originally posted by fangirl101
Then you are telling me we cannot use krona in any vs threads since according to this forum he does not exist. Please tell me that is what you are saying. In his CANON appearances that are birthed from a CANON source.

maybe i'd be more inclined to be helpful if you weren't so quick to jump to conclusions about our so-called "fanboyism"

Originally posted by Raoul
maybe i'd be more inclined to be helpful if you weren't so quick to jump to conclusions about our so-called "fanboyism"

Hmm. I don't think I've ever considered you a fanboy. cept maybe a bit for Superman. So you saying "our" when I didn't have any particular poster in mind is a bit jarring. the statement was a general one about people whining about an obviously canon source. Its'' no different than that mess that is apok now. I hate it. hate it. It goes against established canon. And yet, it is canon. I haven't seen that ruled out. Maybe we should have a section on canon sources that should be ruled out becuz they cause too much disagreement. 🙂

Originally posted by fangirl101
Hmm. I don't think I've ever considered you a fanboy. cept maybe a bit for Superman. So you saying "our" when I didn't have any particular poster in mind is a bit jarring. the statement was a general one about people whining about an obviously canon source. Its'' no different than that mess that is apok now. I hate it. hate it. It goes against established canon. And yet, it is canon. I haven't seen that ruled out. Maybe we should have a section on canon sources that should be ruled out becuz they cause too much disagreement. 🙂

its posts like this:

Originally posted by fangirl101
the rules r shit in that regareds. Meant to pander to marvel lovong noobs who can't handle the truth. Cuz io just got thru reading a dc story where krona comes from that CANON story. The gamesmaster and photon also have the crossover mentioned in their bios. We might as well rule secret invasion and amazons attack to be non canon as well since forum members don't like those stories either.

that cause problems. you know i rarely have any problems with you personally, but thats pretty suggestive.

as far as canonicity goes, i'm sure there's room for some leeway. i don't want people using feats by superman, thor, or anyone else from JLA/Avengers being used. When it comes to Krona, we can work it on a case by case basis. we just don't want scan spam threads.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Then you are telling me we cannot use krona in any vs threads since according to this forum he does not exist. Please tell me that is what you are saying. In his CANON appearances that are birthed from a CANON source.

I'm not sure what your problem is but I've asked you several times not to flame or bash. If someone is causing problems then report. If people disagree with you it's not considered trolling, baiting, flaming, bashing, etc.

Everyone else needs to stop compounding the problems here. Warnings will be dealt shortly. The next time someone argues with a mod, bashes, flames, etc. will get a warning.

Originally posted by Raoul
its posts like this:

that cause problems. you know i rarely have any problems with you personally, but thats pretty suggestive.

as far as canonicity goes, i'm sure there's room for some leeway. i don't want people using feats by superman, thor, or anyone else from JLA/Avengers being used. When it comes to Krona, we can work it on a case by case basis. we just don't want scan spam threads.

It is suggestive. I may have been a bit too strong. But others did agree with me. To totally rule out a canon source based on the outcry of a few is Totally not fair. i never stated your ruling was fanboyish.Just that it was to quiet the fanboys who hate the fact that Thor got KTFO. i have yet to see Apololips now ruled out. As it goes totally against established canon. 🙂

Originally posted by fangirl101
It is suggestive. I may have been a bit too strong. But others did agree with me. To totally rule out a canon source based on the outcry of a few is Totally not fair. i never stated your ruling was fanboyish.Just that it was to quiet the fanboys who hate the fact that Thor got KTFO. i have yet to see Apololips now ruled out. As it goes totally against established canon. 🙂

but thats the problem. we didn't do it because people were whining about it. far from it.

Originally posted by Raoul
but thats the problem. we didn't do it because people were whining about it. far from it.

Originally posted by fangirl101
It is suggestive. I may have been a bit too strong. But others did agree with me. To totally rule out a canon source based on the outcry of a few is Totally not fair. i never stated your ruling was fanboyish.Just that it was to quiet the fanboys who hate the fact that Thor got KTFO. i have yet to see Apololips now ruled out. As it goes totally against established canon. 🙂

Can you take this to pm?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Ok. Well what happens when the next one is done? That will also be canon. You gonna rule that one out too? Cuz it is coming. And can I have the reasons you all banned it. I may want to use those very same reasons to get apok now banned from being used.

first of all, why do you think there'll be a new one?

second, it was the fact it was a crossover more than anything else. its like bada said, if you need to use jla v avengers to prove superman could beat thor (lol), then you've no business being on the forum. in those situations, JLA/Avengers cannot be used.

If its a specific Krona thread, then we can have a look at it.

Originally posted by Raoul
first of all, why do you think there'll be a new one?

second, it was the fact it was a crossover more than anything else. its like bada said, if you need to use jla v avengers to prove superman could beat thor (lol), then you've no business being on the forum. in those situations, JLA/Avengers cannot be used.

If its a specific Krona thread, then we can have a look at it.

I certainly Don't have to use That cross over alone. But it is nice to have to compliment. To use the cross over by itself is silly. But it would have been nice if you guys would have ruled that the cross over could have been used in conjuction with other established canon.

Like How I used wondy breaking quasar's construct but I also backed it up with her breaking other similiar constructs. had it been a feat she'd never done before, I wouldn't use it on it's own merits.

Photon copied Gl's power. And that by itself would be a no no to use as an arguing tool. But it is totally backed up by her doing a similiar thing to the infinite's energy in avengers infinity.

You get my point. 🙂

Originally posted by Badabing
"since before you joined KMC".

😄

back to the thread at hand.

Orion is fast enough hand to hand to compete with Suped up Demons, Superman, and Mr. Miracle.

I don't see an advantage on the speed thing on either one of these guys.

Orion is strong enough to stalemate Superman. Superman has one shotted moons. Glads has destroyed a celestial body with a few shots. I'd say Glads and Superman have similiar striking power. There for Orion and Glads are also similiar.

Orion is an accomplished martial artist and when he wants to, he uses vastly superior skill than what he shows when he fights Superman.

Gladiator is also superior to superman in skill.

I'd say in hand to hand they at best stalemate.

As for All out, Orion wins. His MB and AF are too much for glads limited powerset.

Originally posted by fangirl101
I certainly Don't have to use That cross over alone. But it is nice to have to compliment. To use the cross over by itself is silly. But it would have been nice if you guys would have ruled that the cross over could have been used in conjuction with other established canon.

Like How I used wondy breaking quasar's construct but I also backed it up with her breaking other similiar constructs. had it been a feat she'd never done before, I wouldn't use it on it's own merits.

Photon copied Gl's power. And that by itself would be a no no to use as an arguing tool. But it is totally backed up by her doing a similiar thing to the infinite's energy in avengers infinity.

You get my point. 🙂

i do get your point, and its one i can understand and sympathise with. the problem is that when it comes down to it, it's still a crossover.

you cited that you showed that wonder woman broke constructs of a certain strength, such as quasars and others. that's fine. if someone goes and (as some people tend to do) completely disregard the non crossover feats (assuming they are in context and on equal footing), then that is trolling, and should be reported.

you yourself admit that they aren't needed when making a case. so don't use them then. if people cant see the non crossover feats for what they are, that's their problem, and consequently, that of the mods.

so use the non crossover ones. if people troll, then report them, or pm a mod. we do listen, even if we don't always agree with people.

Originally posted by Raoul
i do get your point, and its one i can understand and sympathise with. the problem is that when it comes down to it, it's still a crossover.

you cited that you showed that wonder woman broke constructs of a certain strength, such as quasars and others. that's fine. if someone goes and (as some people tend to do) completely disregard the non crossover feats (assuming they are in context and on equal footing), then that is trolling, and should be reported.

you yourself admit that they aren't needed when making a case. so don't use them then. if people cant see the non crossover feats for what they are, that's their problem, and consequently, that of the mods.

so use the non crossover ones. if people troll, then report them, or pm a mod. we do listen, even if we don't always agree with people.

Originally posted by fangirl101
it's fine to make a ruling that we can't use the cross over for debates for the sake of sanity on the forum. But it should be noted that it is canon source material.

we were never debating its canonicity, to be honest.

Originally posted by Lord Feron

Like I said before If Orion can only stalemate Supes what chance does he have against Gladiator? 😆

Since when was Supes inferior to Glads? 😱

It's the other way round bud.

1. Orion
2. Orion