Originally posted by Allankles
Wouldn't holding a fist sized black hole be more impressive than busting a planet with punches? It normally depends how the black hole was formed, natural black holes exert more force than what would be required to bust a planet.
If that's the case than Sentry >> Superman in strength because of him containing the Cosmic Cube briefly.
So let's not go by stupid crap like that, hm? And also not forget that Supes wouldn't've been able to do so for too much longer.
Originally posted by Allankles
Supes has been there done that. Imperiex probes, demons, fallen gods, pax dei. You name it he's fought them in some form or another.
You seem to not understand that Superman is what, in his mid-30's while Gladiator is at bare minimum over 450 years old? Spending 400 of those years as a galactic enforcer who has also fought in several universe-spanning wars.
Point is Glads has more combat experience than Superman. Just like Orion does. That shouldn't even be debatable. Its just common sense.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Gladiator was patterned after Superman, tho. So their powers should be seen as nearly identical. Except that he's been shown to be a much better fighter against people of his power level (the way he handled Hyperion). Supes isn't nearly as old as Gladiator either and it can be argued that he doesn't have his level of combat experience.
Originally posted by Enyalus
If that's the case than Sentry >> Superman in strength because of him containing the Cosmic Cube briefly.So let's not go by stupid crap like that, hm? And also not forget that Supes wouldn't've been able to do so for too much longer.
Let's not forget Supes carried an object of "infinite" mass. So yeah I can go there, it Supes.
Originally posted by Allankles
Let's not forget Supes carried an object of "infinite" mass. So yeah I can go there, it Supes.
What, the book? Said infinite pages. Not infinite mass. And he had help.
What else are you talking about? Lifting Spectre, which weighed "eternity"? With GL and Wonder Woman's assistance?
What else am I missing?
Originally posted by Enyalus
You seem to not understand that Superman is what, in his mid-30's while Gladiator is at bare minimum over 450 years old? Spending 400 of those years as a galactic enforcer who has also fought in several universe-spanning wars.Point is Glads has more combat experience than Superman. Just like Orion does. That shouldn't even be debatable. Its just common sense.
Not really. Supes has 600 years more experience on Glads, bud.
Originally posted by EnyalusSuperman is actually at least 1000 years old.
You seem to not understand that Superman is what, in his mid-30's while Gladiator is at bare minimum over 450 years old? Spending 400 of those years as a galactic enforcer who has also fought in several universe-spanning wars.Point is Glads has more combat experience than Superman. Just like Orion does. That shouldn't even be debatable. Its just common sense.
Originally posted by AllanklesThat didn't have to do with really any post I made in here, but, no not necessarily.
Wouldn't holding a fist sized black hole be more impressive than busting a planet with punches? It normally depends how the black hole was formed, natural black holes exert more force than what would be required to bust a planet.
I don't even know how to figure out the damage a black hole would cause to the Earth since it was so small, and to my knowledge such a black hole could not exist.
Although I will say, that at a far enough distance the effects of such a black hole would not even be felt by Earth, if the Sun were replaced by a black hole of the same mass, the orbits of the planets would not even change.
A black hole is just a gravitational field.
Originally posted by Mindset
That didn't have to do with really any post I made in here, but, no not necessarily.I don't even know how to figure out the damage a black hole would cause to the Earth since it was so small, and to my knowledge such a black hole could not exist.
Although I will say, that at a far enough distance the effects of such a black hole would not even be felt by Earth, if the Sun were replaced by a black hole of the same mass, the orbits of the planets would not even change.
A black hole is just a gravitational field.
But a black hole (at least the ones that occur naturally) are formed by large stars collapsing.
Also black holes can be a lot smaller than fists.
Originally posted by Allankles
But a black hole (at least the ones that occur naturally) are formed by large stars collapsing.Also black holes can be a lot smaller than fists.
Yes, I know how black holes are formed, what does that have to do with my post? I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, I just don't see why you told me that.
What black holes are smaller than a fist, or rather, where have you gotten that they can be?
Originally posted by Allankles
Of course you're not comprised of infinitely recurring mass....so 😉
'Cept that's a strange assumption for you to make. For instance, photons don't have any mass. If there were an infinite amount of photons, they'd weigh nothing. And considering it was pretty much a magical book (or whatever Monitor stuff is), you - and everyone else - simply don't know what the mass would be for an infinite amount of those pages. Hell, that kind of mass in that limited space would result in a black hole if we're going by real world science...like you seem to want to do.
Originally posted by Mindset
Yes, I know how black holes are formed, what does that have to do with my post? I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, I just don't see why you told me that.What black holes are smaller than a fist, or rather, where have you gotten that they can be?
Large Hadrian Collider, I believe its called. They were worried it was going to create mini black holes.
Originally posted by Mindset
What black holes are smaller than a fist, or rather, where have you gotten that they can be?
Ask-an-expert.com (note: don't know if such a site exists) google it some. 🙂
As for my post, the point was just to point out that the forces that comprise even the smaller black holes are greater than what it would take to blow away a planet.
Originally posted by Enyalus
'Cept that's a strange assumption for you to make. For instance, photons don't have any mass. If there were an infinite amount of photons, they'd weigh nothing. And considering it was pretty much a magical book (or whatever Monitor stuff is), you - and everyone else - simply don't know what the mass would be for an infinite amount of those pages. Hell, that kind of mass in that limited space would result in a black hole if we're going by real world science...like you seem to want to do.
good point, but it was is made clear that those pages were not like radiation "particles", and those individual pages were demonstrated to at least have the weight of an average paper of the same dimensions.