Link vs Nero

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Originally posted by I am who I am
When is Link seen crashing back to Earth? I know the endin' just watched it now and did not see it.

Show me Link takin' punches from Ganon, the same ones that brought down the castle and disintegrated stone. Show me Ganon even doin' what you say.

Show me Link movin' faster than sound, or show me Link move fast enough to dodge bullets. Show me Link survivin' gettin' impaled, crushed or take on an army of demons.

You can't make claims wit out proof.

the proof is in the games, lol. Where would Link go from the moon once it was gone, and why was he on the ground with his eyes closed? Wow man.

And the problem with that is so far nothing has displayed the power to impale Link, =P he's made of tougher stuff than Dante and co.

That picture I posted earlier ALONE is eough proof of durability, just holding up that stone would be enough to crush Nero into a paste.

Originally posted by Voyeur
[b]LINK's abilities:
Link is the hero of time with many abilities.

Link is an exceptional swordsman. His skill with various weapons and items allows him to easily adapt and master each new tool he acquires and employ them in battles. Link shows himself to be an excellent marksman. Including but not restricted to with a Bow and Arrow, Boomerang, Slingshot, HookShot, ClawShot etc. etc.

Link is also very agile, proven as he is able to perform back-flips and somersaults with ease to dodge his enemies' attacks at the very start of his adventures.

Additionally, Link has proven to be very strong physically, as he is usually able to move heavy objects and overpower larger enemies rather easily. Along the fact his power to ride a giant Boar, and his horseback riding skills are impeccable.

In the "Oracle of Seasons", Link is shown to have at least some skills in hand-to-hand combat with the boxing mini-game and in Twilight Princess, he is taught the art of sumo wrestling by the mayor of Ordon Village; proving Link isn't completely defenseless without a weapon.

Link even uses magic in the form of spells. On several occasions he has even been able to shape shift into another form including a fairy, bunny, wolf, Deku, Goron, Zora, a Giant, and a Deity.

Finally, he is endowed with the powers of the Triforce of Courage.

The Legend of Zelda
-Sword Beams: able to fire energy blasts from Sword
-Spin Attack: Charged or otherwise, with or with out magical energy released from it, this attack is a circular based one with critical consequence.
(side note: these attacks are also translated and relate to the other titles in which they appear. Same goes for Sword Plant, Rocket Stab, Lunge and so on)

Legend of Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link
-Shield: (buff) reduces all damage taken by half
-Jump: (buff) Link's jumping abilities are greatly increased
-Life: (buff) Regenerates Health
-Fairy: (buff) Transforms Link into a Fairy
-Fire: (ranged) A ranged fire attack from the Sword
-Reflect: (buff) Nullifies and reflects all attacks
-Spell: (aoe) Transforms all Enemies into a Bot
-Thunder: (aoe) destroys all Enemies.

The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Bombos: (aoe) creates a giant explosion
Ether: (aoe) immobilize all enemies
Quake: (aoe) creates an earthquake

The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
Excluded since it's a dream, other wise this Link would be unbeatable.

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Din's Fire: (aoe) Creates a dome of intense Fire to disintegrate
Farore's Wind: (buff) Create a Warp Point to teleport at any time
Nayru's Love (buff) Create a protective barrier to reduce damage

The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Deku Link: can hover and shoot poison bubbles
Goron Link: lolwut strong & can spin around at extreme velocity
Zora Link: Energy Shield, ranged fins, & unlimited breath under water
Giant Link: need I say more?
Fierce Deity Link: Deity means a god, so yeah =3

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
The Hidden Skills: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLg5beoBbAU
-Ending Blow
-Shield Attack
-Back Slice
-Helm Splitter
-Mortal Draw
-Jump Strike
-Great Spin

Super Smahs Bros. Series
Final Smash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65pkTJHljSI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gn1d_qn0vw

The move hits multiple enemies.

SSE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_m5AsTPaPw

(side note: being able to side step and dodge Fox's laser is proof he could dodge a bullet. Lets also state that by official translation of Nintendo that Farore's wind can be used as a quick teleportation)

SoulCalibur 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaDSWnA-27Q

Illusion Stab Combo, also in Super Smash Bros. Melee.

for the sake of length I have not gone to deeply into each specific Link by assuming all the basics are kept through out each one.

tl;dr: "Link" combined by all titles is extremely over powered.

including his feats which include

easily hurling a 1000+ ton item

surviving a full blow radius explosion that disintegrated the moon, then landing back to earth and waking up minutes after wards.

being able to on reaction dodge a Laser blast from Star Fox's blaster and side step Whip attacks from Majora that break the Speed of Sound.

and with a various amount of items at his Dante can stab someone a million times and is powerful enough to kill demons in 1 shot--nuff said. disposal, Link wins by far of over anything Nero has done. Besides the fact that Link is like Batman and has almost any item ready for any situation.

now stop ignoring my damn posts because you guys have no answer for them or come back to reply because I win, strictly by fact. You need to admit defeat when it's right in front of your eyes and it is okay to be wrong.

Drop your Fan Boyism down, I even speak ill of Link in a big way and still am only pointing out the hard core facts.

So there it is. Link wins, Link could easily defeat Nero or Dante, since they're like ****ing Clones, how original. And until any of you can comprise a solid list against mine to show there is a shadow of a doubt then I'll be more then happy to see it.

Point and case. [/B]

Dante is the most powerful being in his universe and can kill demons[example: the most powerful god]in 1 shot. And can stab someone 1,000,000 times. Batman? LMAO, Dante is like Superman. Fought someone who could wipe a planet clean of life.

Dante has arrows as well. He could throw Lucifer in his face killing him by an explosion. Or just use Pandora's Form. I don't feel like bringing up Dante's abilities. But he has Dreadnought which could asorb at Link throws at him[or MajinForm/RoyalGuard which gives him invincbility and can dodge all of his attacks]. He could also use Ultimate taking energy from Link and using it as health. And Dante is Sparda's Form which could own Link. And Dante's reaction of better than Links. Hell, even could shake /most/ of Link's attacks off with his Demonic Aura.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-464182-the-official-respect-thread-of-dante.html Dante respect thread.

@Gumachi
and once Dante is transformed into a bot, he can do what? be a bot and get squished.

Let me also point out that "Chateau Romani" is an item that grants Link to have unlimited amount of magic as his disposal. It never runs out, it never diminishes and once used actually replenishes his entirity of magic.

Everything you just said that Dante said is all nice and well, but we already won that thread and this match is about Nero, the weaker version of Dante pretty much.

Link is capable of all that and then some. once again, it's one thing to fight and destroy a God because you must progress plot of the game, it is another to actually be one of the gods in your own game, destroy another god and continue to live on as a legend.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Dante is the most powerful being in his universe and can kill demons[example: the most powerful god]in 1 shot. And can stab someone 1,000,000 times. Batman? LMAO, Dante is like Superman. Fought someone who could wipe a planet clean of life.

Dante has arrows as well. He could throw Lucifer in his face killing him by an explosion. Or just use Pandora's Form. I don't feel like bringing up Dante's abilities. But he has Dreadnought which could asorb at Link throws at him[or MajinForm/RoyalGuard which gives him invincbility and can dodge all of his attacks]. He could also use Ultimate taking energy from Link and using it as health. And Dante is Sparda's Form which could own Link.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-464182-the-official-respect-thread-of-dante.html Dante respect thread.

Wrong thread, none of that helps Nero and most of it wouldn't even help Dante against Link.

Alot of it is just you over hyping him. "OMG Dante is a half demon who fought Mundusand stuff" <--.. So?

Originally posted by I am who I am
When is Link seen crashing back to Earth? I know the endin' just watched it now and did not see it.

Show me Link takin' punches from Ganon, the same ones that brought down the castle and disintegrated stone. Show me Ganon even doin' what you say.

Show me Link movin' faster than sound, or show me Link move fast enough to dodge bullets. Show me Link survivin' gettin' impaled, crushed or take on an army of demons.

You can't make claims wit out proof.

Are you serious? Are you not even looking at Paste's video? Link was in the moon. Moon blows up while he's in the center. Link shortly after is shown back on Earth and he's shaking his head trying to regain his composure from the impact.

Lol. It was not a punch. It was a blow from Ganon's beast form weapons.

In what way do I show you? Is there supposed to be a cutscene in which Link's timing is clocked by scientific equipment? Is that what it will take? Lmao. We told you, a whip crack breaks the sound barrier. Link has to defend himself from the blows in one way or another.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
the proof is in the games, lol. Where would Link go from the moon once it was gone, and why was he on the ground with his eyes closed? Wow man.

And the problem with that is so far nothing has displayed the power to impale Link, =P he's made of tougher stuff than Dante and co.

That picture I posted earlier ALONE is eough proof of durability, just holding up that stone would be enough to crush Nero into a paste.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Wrong thread, none of that helps Nero and most of it wouldn't even help Dante against Link.

Alot of it is just you over hyping him. "OMG Dante is a half demon who fought Mundusand stuff" <--.. So?

Better than throwing out that Ganon bullshit.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
the proof is in the games, lol. Where would Link go from the moon once it was gone, and why was he on the ground with his eyes closed? Wow man.

And the problem with that is so far nothing has displayed the power to impale Link, =P he's made of tougher stuff than Dante and co.

That picture I posted earlier ALONE is eough proof of durability, just holding up that stone would be enough to crush Nero into a paste.

Maybe he got back to earth the same way got to the moon...duh. You sayin' Link can jump to the moon? And the hilarity ensues😆

Show me Link's durability feats. And you don't need durability feats if you can regenerate.

That pic is not enough. Link needs his gloves. HE DOES NOT HAVE THEM IN THIS FIGHT. Even if he did, you have shown NO PROOF that Link can tank bullets to his head from a super gun. You only say he can, but you need to SHOW IT.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Better than throwing out that Ganon bullshit.
The Ganon 'bullshit' was very relevant seeign as we were mentioning that Ganon > Saviour, and Ganon's the one who hit Link with giant SWORDS that disintegrated stone under his raw power.

Dante's powers do nothign for Nero, who loses this thread, until you can debunk any of our claims, which you cannot, because they're correct.

Dante loses the other thread aswell. Link 2, DMC universe, 0.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

1. Link needed the golden gauntlet to lift those, it wasnt his actual strenght.

2. Prove that its granite, or like it. Looks mean nothing, they never say anything about the rock in the game at all iirc.

And if you guys are correct with everything you say, then i think link could take this. And link is strong people, cc has pretty much proved it. Ganon is frfeakishly strong, and for link to even lock swords with him means he must be somewhere around that strength, and to get past links reaction time he would need to be much faster than what hes at now. i say link 7/10. Only real way nero could win is if he used devil bringer to crush him, which if screampaste was right about that block (which hell need to give me a good reply to my above #2) and its weight, then link wins. But if he does not prove that block to be granite or somewhat similar to it by PROOF, then i would make it a little closer at 6/10 link.

Originally posted by I am who I am
Maybe he got back to earth the same way got to the moon...duh. You sayin' Link can jump to the moon? And the hilarity ensues😆

Show me Link's durability feats. And you don't need durability feats if you can regenerate.

That pic is not enough. Link needs his gloves. HE DOES NOT HAVE THEM IN THIS FIGHT. Even if he did, you have shown NO PROOF that Link can tank bullets to his head from a super gun. You only say he can, but you need to SHOW IT.

UNTIL THE OP SAYS OTHERWISE, YES HE DOES, DO HEART CAPS.

And I have shown it, he holds up that rock, no gun exerts the amount of force that stone does. Link throws it, lemme explan more physics to you!

For every action there is an equal reaction, for Link to throw the stone the stone has to push back on him just as hard, how much force does it take to throw a 1000+ton stone hundreds of metres? The gloves don't boost his durability, so even without them, he tanks that much forc,e **** a silly gun.

and when has Link een shot by a gun? You want a video that doesn';t exist.

I like Gumachi's clever attempt at wording things to be more impressive than they are. lol.

'Fought someone who wipe a planet clean of life'.

Really? Well considering that 99.99999% of beings in the DMC universe aren't half demons fathered by a great Demon Soldier in Sparda is this supposed to be impressive? Mundus was trying to take over the world, that was his ultimate objective.

Forget such a modest goal, Majora was about to DESTROY the world if Link didn't effectively turn back time each time before it happens.

Originally posted by k1Lla441
1. Link needed the golden gauntlet to lift those, it wasnt his actual strenght.

2. Prove that its granite, or like it. Looks means nothing, they never say anything about the rock in the game at all iirc.

Firstly, it's colour and pattern are most consitant with Granite, black granite, which is a very common rock formation used in construction, infact it almost has to be because the only other types of rock to share that colour are volcanic and have very low structural integrity. The measurements I posted didn't even factor in black granite, I used the ligther white granite and only measured the weight of the visible section of the pillar, just to be conservative, I also made sure to err in the favour of "smaller" when I estimated the rock's size. Everythign there is not only legit, but conservative.

Originally posted by I am who I am
Maybe he got back to earth the same way got to the moon...duh. You sayin' Link can jump to the moon? And the hilarity ensues😆

Show me Link's durability feats. And you don't need durability feats if you can regenerate.

it is obviously shown that he falls since he has to WAKE UP from being on the ground. If he did the simple trick of just being hovered back down he already would of been awake.

obvious point is obvious.

[QUOTE=]Originally posted by Voyeur
first off you keep saying Link is Human. Link is Hylian. And for all we know the Hyrule race have above advantages of physical prowess over ourselves. So stop comparing them to our human selves.

And your argument that Dante defeated a God, while not being a God himself, is petty. Link is a GOD, Link defeated a God (Ganondorf).

Let's define the word God though:
(lowercase) one of several deities, esp. a male deity, presiding over some portion of worldly affairs.

So with that said, Link presides over the affair of Life.

[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=]Originally posted by Voyeur
Gumachi you're confusing being stabbed, impaled, crucified, thrusted, lunged, etc etc alternate words for being physically penetrated by a sword, with the fact we're taking about alternate dimensional speed on a scale outside of the law of possible physics (i.e. teleporation) in itself which is a tear in time and space and with those applied to Link's shown strength thanks to ScreamPaste....

it would TEAR, rip a new worm hole sort of speak, in which Dante would be sliced at it's birth peak.

EDIT: you can't regenerate lost matter. Molecules and atoms exist and continue to exist and recycle so long as they are on our plane of existance. But if something is built and sent to space, those particles no longer are apart of our world.

The same goes for if Dante or Nero was cut at such extreme conditions the flesh, muscle, bone and organ that was wounded's own sub-atomic structure would be sent to out of reach for him to regenerate what was lost. [/QUOTE]

side note: I'm sick of winning and repeating myself. Read what I type the first time around THOROUGHLY!
Everything we've been posting, Scream, Cosmic and myself are facts and evidence from the game titles.

you guys are spouting off all this nonsense your characters can do aside from the few videos we already debunked as weak.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
I like Gumachi's clever attempt at wording things to be more impressive than they are. lol.

'Fought someone who wipe a planet clean of life'.

Really? Well considering that 99.99999% of beings in the DMC universe aren't half demons fathered by a great Demon Soldier in Sparda is this supposed to be impressive? Mundus was trying to take over the world, that was his ultimate objective.

Forget such a modest goal, Majora was about to DESTROY the world if Link didn't effectively turn back time each time before it happens.

Technially, he did. Look at the Dante vs Superman thread.

Your Point? Actually he conquered it. And where do you get: "Fathered by Sparda?" from?

So? Savior, Arius, Mundus, and Argosax ALL could have DESTROYED THE WORLD as well, if Dante didn't STOP them, and no he didn't have to go back in time.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Are you serious? Are you not even looking at Paste's video? Link was in the moon. Moon blows up while he's in the center. Link shortly after is shown back on Earth and he's shaking his head trying to regain his composure from the impact

Lol. It was not a punch. It was a blow from Ganon's beast form weapons.

In what way do I show you? Is there supposed to be a cutscene in which Link's timing is clocked by scientific equipment? Is that what it will take? Lmao. We told you, a whip crack breaks the sound barrier. Link has to defend himself from the blows in one way or another. .

SHOW ME Link fallin' from the moon. Maybe Link was shakin' his head cuz of battle he had just had...duh. Link wasn't even lyin' in a crater. Say what you want but until you prove it, it's meanin'less

You know what the hell I mean and some of you did say PUNCH, I can show you.

Show me the whip movin' faster than sound, then show me Link dodgin' it. 😆 YOU CANT JUST SAY THIS WITH NO PROOF. If I can easily see the whip move and see Link dodgin' it then it aint faster than sound. Unless you gonna say time was slowed, but then you gonna have to prove that too. 😂

Originally posted by Voyeur
it is obviously shown that he falls since he has to WAKE UP from being on the ground. If he did the simple trick of just being hovered back down he already would of been awake.

obvious point is obvious.

No it's not obvious. Link coulda hovered back down and then passed out cuz of the intense battle he just had. Then they show him wake up.

He wasn't even in a crater, that proves he didn't fall.

Originally posted by I am who I am
Maybe he got back to earth the same way got to the moon...duh. You sayin' Link can jump to the moon? And the hilarity ensues😆

Show me Link's durability feats. And you don't need durability feats if you can regenerate.

Lol you sure are reaching. 😆

That is the most pathetic explanation I've heard thus far.

There is no need for you to strain yourself looking for a cop out. It's all there...Link was lying on the ground and then he comes to and his head is clearly hurting by his reaction. What do you think happened?

I also like the fact that you don't seem to be questioning the explosion bit of it anymore since it is undeniable. Trying to reason that maybe Link didn't crash back in to the Earth as a consolation prize that is rather totally meaningless here wouldn't you say? Seeing as Link the more impressive half of the durability feat (surviving the explosion) is left in tact?

And pure durability is nice regardless of regeneration. Especially when that regeneration is limited and can be overwhelmed as is the case with Dante and crew.

Move along boy. You're wasting my time with your tripe posts.

Originally posted by I am who I am
SHOW ME Link fallin' from the moon. Maybe Link was shakin' his head cuz of battle he had just had...duh. Link wasn't even lyin' in a crater. Say what you want but until you prove it, it's meanin'less

You know what the hell I mean and some of you did say PUNCH, I can show you.

Show me the whip movin' faster than sound, then show me Link dodgin' it. 😆 YOU CANT JUST SAY THIS WITH NO PROOF. If I can easily see the whip move and see Link dodgin' it then it aint faster than sound. Unless you gonna say time was slowed, but then you gonna have to prove that too. 😂

wow, you are TOO dense, any time a whip cracks it breaks the sound barrier, that is fact, indisputable. and you play as LINK who can obviously react to such things and jump out of the way of these very long, very powerful, magicly enhanced super whips weilded by Majora who was about to destroy the world.

Further more, common sense dictates that if you have a twenty foot or longer whip, and you swing the end you're holding, the far end is travellign EXPONENTIALLY faster.

Link's reaction time is easily sonic.

Can't Nero just pick Link up with his DB and crush ALL of Link's bones? And no, don't say: "LINK SURVIVES THAT. "

Originally posted by Gumachi
Can't Nero just pick Link up with his DB and crush ALL of Link's bones? And no, don't say: "LINK SURVIVES THAT. "

Show me a strength feat to prove it can even hurt Link. Imo, Link picks up a rock or a baseball, maybe an apple, throws it at Nero and takes the boy's head clean off.