Pein and Kisame vs. Kenpachi Zaraki

Originally posted by Quincy
1. When was the last time you've ever seen someone from bleach show the amount of skill the characters from Naruto have in a fight.

Not a sword fight.

An actual fight.

Or even thrown a punch.

yeah that's right.

2. And I figured you meant those buildings. although I'm questionable as to whether or not thats a real feat, since those are buildings from Soul Society.

And sword fights are not actual fights?

Yeah. Please stfu.

2. Now you are grasping at straws.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. Oh. So you mean when was the last time Bleach used a bunch of random assortments of powers they do not possess?

And sword fights are not actual fights?

Yeah. Please stfu.

2. Now you are grasping at straws.

naw

Wow man you get really defensive and stern quickly.

And no, being handy with a sword does not make you a good at FIGHTING. It makes you good with a sword. Now if you happen to fight someone ELSE with a sword, then you're in pretty good shape.

Why would you say I'm grasping at straws? I don't think you even understand what I was saying.

Originally posted by Quincy
naw

Wow man you get really defensive and stern quickly.

And no, being handy with a sword does not make you a good at FIGHTING. It makes you good with a sword. Now if you happen to fight someone ELSE with a sword, then you're in pretty good shape.

Why would you say I'm grasping at straws? I don't think you even understand what I was saying.

2. Yeah, it does, they are able to use a sword in combat efficiently, making them good at fighting.

3. You are trying to say Soul Society buildings<Normal buildings, which is stupid.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Kenny had no sense but touch.

Uh...

And Tosen is a Captain, which alone puts his speed above most of Bleachverse.

Speculation...

Oh and you're wrong btw. Tosen was able to cut off Grimmjow's arm before he felt pain and obliterated it with a Kido before it even hit the ground.

Which is sometime after that fight... and we all know hoe Bleach characters have gay super upgrades out of nowhere...

The fact that he has an 80/100 in speed in the Databook reinforce's this fact.

No it doesn't. 😐

2. Yeah, it does, they are able to use a sword in combat efficiently, making them good at fighting.

And in all honesty, there sword fight skills suck. They fight like Luke and Vader did in Return of the Jedi. From what I've seen the yrely more on their speed and power then any actual "technique" with a sword.

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
Uh...

Speculation...

Which is sometime after that fight... and we all know hoe Bleach characters have gay super upgrades out of nowhere...

No it doesn't. 😐

And in all honesty, there sword fight skills suck. They fight like Luke and Vader did in Return of the Jedi. From what I've seen the yrely more on their speed and power then any actual "technique" with a sword.

2. Not speculation, the difference between a Captain and a Liutenant is shown to be astronomical.

3. What? Wtf are you talking about?

4. Yeah it does. If he had nothing but databook I would agree, but he doesn't.

5. Depends on you you are talking about. Kenny is the best swordsman in the show.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
5. Depends on you you are talking about. Kenny is the best swordsman in the show.

I'd say he's easily the worst.

Anywhere.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'd say he's easily the worst.

Anywhere.

Kenny is a pure swordsman specialist, he uses no other weapon or tactic but swordplay, and quickly but effortlessly alternates between different attack types and was able to fight Sajin and Tosen both at the same time and was holding the upper hand.

Kenny has enormous spirit pressure enough to bring anyone down to the floor including kisame and pein

Originally posted by yungz22
Kenny has enormous spirit pressure enough to bring anyone down to the floor including kisame and pein

lulz.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'd say he's easily the worst.

Anywhere.

To be fair, very few of them seem to possess any real skill though.

Pain's Deva Path is all that is needed. This is the guy who survived a round against a six-tailed Naruto 😬...that speaks for itself.

Kisame would be more of a fair fight though, would see it going either way...on a side note, both have enormous amounts of "respective universe's energy" 😛

Kenpachi would kill Six Tailed Naruto though.

So I cannot see your point.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Kenpachi would kill Six Tailed Naruto though.

So I cannot see your point.

Go ahead and state that Konohamaru would kill Renji 😐...you seem to like those sort of comments.

Feats wise or otherwise, Pain beats Kenpachi. And I'm not talking about number of feats.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
I'd say I couldn't give a shit about your misguided opinion.

Kenny is a pure swordsman specialist, he uses no other weapon or tactic but swordplay, and quickly but effortlessly alternates between different attack types and was able to fight Sajin and Tosen both at the same time and was holding the upper hand.

The extent of his technique is "hit harder to hurt them more" that's it entirely. The rest is nothing but banking on his massive durability. That's not tactics or skill (in fact Kenpachi has said that he hates both, IIRC) that's Kenpachi being insane like he always is, it's what makes him awesome.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Go ahead and state that Konohamaru would kill Renji 😐...you seem to like those sort of comments.

Feats wise or otherwise, Pain beats Kenpachi. And I'm not talking about number of feats.

2. 'Fraid not.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The extent of his technique is "hit harder to hurt them more" that's it entirely. The rest is nothing but banking on his massive durability. That's not tactics or skill (in fact Kenpachi has said that he hates both, IIRC) that's Kenpachi being insane like he always is, it's what makes him awesome.

He has massive durability, yeah.

HOWEVER, he has shown to be able to easily block, parry, and attack in battle.

He despises them, yet oddly uses them.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. Nope, Renji alone would give Pain himself a run for his money. Here is a fun fact though, Konohamaru did beat one of Pain's bodies. 🙂

2. 'Fraid not.

Keep going on, your statements such as Renji giving Pain a hard time are amusing me.
We're talking about the Deva path here, so your Konohamaru point is moot, m'fraid. The rest of the bodies are just like someone else described them, fodder.

Ookay, what's the biggest feat Kenpachi's done? (I will concede if it's bigger than pain's 😛)

PS, don't double post, apparently it's really hated in this forum, the edit button is there for a reason

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Keep going on, your statements such as Renji giving Pain a hard time are amusing me.
We're talking about the Deva path here, so your Konohamaru point is moot, m'fraid. The rest of the bodies are just like someone else described them, fodder.

Ookay, what's the biggest feat Kenpachi's done? (I will concede if it's bigger than pain's 😛)

PS, don't double post, apparently it's really hated in this forum, the edit button is there for a reason

2. I described them as fodder. And Deva Path is not enough to win.

3. You're just going to shout that Pain destroyed the village, ignoring that it takes time and all the bodies to do that, and the pseudo black hole, which Kenny could easily escape.

Kenny has casually cut in half buildings without touching them with his sword for one.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. Because it is true? It isn't surprising, what with Bleach being a stronger verse than Naruto.

2. I described them as fodder. And Deva Path is not enough to win.

3. You're just going to shout that Pain destroyed the village, ignoring that it takes time and all the bodies to do that, and the pseudo black hole, which Kenny could easily escape.

Kenny has casually cut in half buildings without touching them with his sword for one.

No it isn't, & saying that the bleach verse is stronger is nothing short of a fanboyish attitude.

Yeah, I re read the thread where you said it, and I'm sorry I forgot it was you who said that...he is enough.

Not going to shout it, I would type it...and the feat of being able to defeat an opponent like Jiraiya would have sufficed in this case.

Pray tell how Kenny would escape the effects of gravity.

Sure, because the one thing that can stop Pain is buildings sliced in half.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Pray tell how Kenny would escape the effects of gravity.

Do you count filler as cannon?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
No it isn't, & saying that the bleach verse is stronger is nothing short of a fanboyish attitude.

Yeah, I re read the thread where you said it, and I'm sorry I forgot it was you who said that...he is enough.

Not going to shout it, I would type it...and the feat of being able to defeat an opponent like Jiraiya would have sufficed in this case.

Pray tell how Kenny would escape the effects of gravity.

Sure, because the one thing that can stop Pain is buildings sliced in half.

2. No he is not.

3. They mean nothing, and Jiraiya could not beat Kenny.

4. You say that like it means anything. Other than the mini black hole, all he can do is push and pull(and pray to God he does not decide to pull Kenny to him), and it has a lag time of 5 seconds, which would be more than enough time for Kenny to clear the distance.

5. Yeah, considering he could kill all of Pain's bodies in one swipe. 🙂