Well he's only about 500-600lbs in metallic form, so staying afloat is not impossible. And do you really think he will give Spider-Man the chance to get in a crane? And even if he did, by the time the ball got high enough to hit Colossus with sufficient force to move him, he would have run up and wrecked it. Plus I think if he punched the ball he would destroy it.
Originally posted by DeathKap
Forgot to say walking lol. And I know that happened in an issue, but Juggernaut especially should not be stoped by that.
I guess Spidey considered the amount of time Jugs (an hour tops) would spend swimming in goo and then digging himself out as a win. 😛 One can imagine the surprise the construction crew had the next day... hehe.
Originally posted by KingD19
Well he's only about 500-600lbs in metallic form, so staying afloat is not impossible. And do you really think he will give Spider-Man the chance to get in a crane? And even if he did, by the time the ball got high enough to hit Colossus with sufficient force to move him, he would have run up and wrecked it. Plus I think if he punched the ball he would destroy it.
I dunno, a big human sized solid steel body is not very bouyant IMO.
Spidey will prolly break the chain off the crane and swing it by hand. Spidey's not dumb enough to attack with the ball when Colossus is ready for it. He'd use his webbing to distract/keep him off balanced/blind him first and then hit him with the Ball. Spidey's webbing is pretty strong y'know. T'would take a few seconds or so for the Big guy to break out of it given that Peter uses enough webbing.
It depends on the salt concentration level in the ocean, plus if he can't float, he can always turn back to normal, or run back on the floor.
Plus, Piotr is a talented combatant, I doubt Spidey could get a sufficient amount of webbing to keep him distracted for any amount of time. Plus, I think if Spidey is swinging the ball, and Colossus is hitting it, Colossus wins.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Don't think he can swim in metal form tho, well in normal RL physics he shouldn't as being completely Metal makes him too heavy to remain bouyant.
LOL. True! I sometimes wish comics would take physics a bit more seriously sometimes. But I'd much more believe colossus could swim in metal form rather than wolverine. At least colossus is super strong, so each of his swim strokes can be strong enough to propel his 600lbs body. Whereas wolverine is 5'3", 300 lbs, and is at most peak human. don't see how he could stay afloat for long.
Originally posted by KingD19
It depends on the salt concentration level in the ocean, plus if he can't float, he can always turn back to normal, or run back on the floor.Plus, Piotr is a talented combatant, I doubt Spidey could get a sufficient amount of webbing to keep him distracted for any amount of time. Plus, I think if Spidey is swinging the ball, and Colossus is hitting it, Colossus wins.
If he turns back to normal, Spidey conks im with a web ball FTW. If he walks, then it's considered a BFR win (or it should be). 🙂
Spidey is a pretty good fighter himself and webbing is a very good weapon against Colossus to keep him at range and off balanced (long enough to conk him from behind with a wrecking ball). He used the webbing on Colossus during Secret Wars and it worked quite well.
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Colossus should win this every time. He's stronger than Spider-Man by a hell of a margin, and is too durable for Spider-Man to hurt. Spidey can stay out of his way well enough, but if he tries to go in offensively, he's going to get tagged eventually.
Well, no one is saying that Spidey has any chance of KOing or beating Colossus H2H. The only way Spidey can win is thru BFR by keeping Colossus off balanced. But BFR is a viable win condition in this thread as it was never mentioned that it wasn't allowed.
And I also believe Colossus takes it 7/10. But Spidey should take a few wins.
Spidey simply can't beat colossus, unless perhaps through BFR. Also, some of his higher webbing feats suggest he could possibly contain him with a very large amount, but I'm going to go with Ptior 9.5/10 here. Sooner or later this battle is gonna call for more than just evasion from Spidey, and that's where he basically comes up short.
If it is pure fight then I guess colossus wins. Meaning only hand to hand combat in a closed space.
If you can use your intelligence and even have preparations Spider-Man wins. Spider-man can use some heavy steel pipes, impact webbing and ofcourse the classis "drop-a-building" on someone.
How much does colossus weight by the way, could spidey just web him and swing him around a little? Also can colossus swim ... because he should not be able to swim.
Originally posted by Lostedge
If it is pure fight then I guess colossus wins. Meaning only hand to hand combat in a closed space.If you can use your intelligence and even have preparations Spider-Man wins. Spider-man can use some heavy steel pipes, impact webbing and ofcourse the classis "drop-a-building" on someone.
How much does colossus weight by the way, could spidey just web him and swing him around a little? Also can colossus swim ... because he should not be able to swim.
Impact webbing does nothing to him, heavy steel pipes can't be swung with enough force to hurt him, and if you drop a building on him, he'll just dig his way out. He's tunneled through billions of tons of rock before.
And the info books say he's 500lbs, but on panel at least twice he's been referenced as weighing a ton, or a ton and a half.
As for swimming, he's never been shown swimming in his metal form, but he can just walk back under the water if he wants, if not, he can turn to normal and swim back.