Superman vs. Gladiator range of captabilities Thread

Going by some showings it can sure be said that Superman is more versatile. In terms of raw power, Gladiator however should far outpace him. IIRC he has destroyed a planet, smashed Wonder Man into the core of a planet, etc. At his classic levels Gladiator was certainly "pre-Crisis" or in that sort of area. And I believe he once did pretty well against Ego and SS, I don't think Superman would stand a chance against either of those two at all. In a fight Gladiator would win, in a circumstance that requires something other than combat (like the aforementioned things with lightning storms, black holes, etc) Superman would win.

Originally posted by UKR
Going by some showings it can sure be said that Superman is more versatile. In terms of raw power, Gladiator however should far outpace him. IIRC he has destroyed a planet, smashed Wonder Man into the core of a planet, etc. At his classic levels Gladiator was certainly "pre-Crisis" or in that sort of area. And I believe he once did pretty well against Ego and SS, I don't think Superman would stand a chance against either of those two at all. In a fight Gladiator would win, in a circumstance that requires something other than combat (like the aforementioned things with lightning storms, black holes, etc) Superman would win.

Superman has flown from vega to earth in a few panels. Glads certainly isn't faster than that.

So what feats does glads have that put him at a raw power advantage of Superman?

Oh and Superman smashed Protex into the core of the earth. So um yeah.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Hmm. Seems Supergirl has the same basic powerset as superman and so does powergirl. And they both have numberous appearances but for some strange reason they can't use thier powers like superman either. Wonder why that is? If all one needs is superman's basic power set and a bunch of appearances.

Seriously? Supergirl and powergirl compared to superman arent even main characters. They havent been in even half of the story lines and plot driven situations superman has been put in, in order to advance his character. Scratch that, put together they havent been in even 1/4 of them. If glads had been a main character and not one who appears a few times a year, then maybe ud have a case. As it stands now its quite pointless to try to compare glads and supermans use of their powers when superman has been in a million more comics and is the star of his company while glads is a character who appears in the odd storyline here or there.

Originally posted by Naija boy
when superman has been in a million more comics and is the star of his company while glads is a character who appears in the odd storyline here or there.

About 5100 comics to roughly 130 comics, yeah....

Originally posted by Naija boy
Seriously? Supergirl and powergirl compared to superman arent even main characters. They havent been in even half of the story lines and plot driven situations superman has been put in, in order to advance his character. Scratch that, put together they havent been in even 1/4 of them. If glads had been a main character and not one who appears a few times a year, then maybe ud have a case. As it stands now its quite pointless to try to compare glads and supermans use of their powers when superman has been in a million more comics and is the star of his company while glads is a character who appears in the odd storyline here or there.

Originally posted by Enyalus
About 5100 comics to roughly 130 comics, yeah....

Heh. Whered u check that on comicvine?

Originally posted by Enyalus
About 5100 comics to roughly 130 comics, yeah....

this thread is full of butt hurt.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Heh. Whered u check that on comicvine?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Thanos also appears less than Superman. But I can tell that he's far more versatile and Superior to Superman. So if glads is suppposed to be superior as people say, how come I can't see that?

So, I'm not defending Gladiator in this thread at all. Was just pointing out something to Naija.

Down, girl.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Well then how does one come up with a conclusion that Glads is any where near as powerful or effective as Superman when he doesn't have the feats to back that up?

Anywhere near as powerful as in is he on that level? Yes certainly. As effective in usage of his abilities? No certainly not. The few feats glads does have definitely put him on the general "superman level". Meaning he can match up well against superman and similar characters of that level (note this is without taking into account weaknesses against particular powersets etc.) Obviously however in a comparison of who is more effective in using their powers superman would win as he has way more material to work with.

Originally posted by Enyalus
No. I have a photographic memory and went through Avlon's collection. Obviously.

I never said Supes and Gladiator were equals. In a separate thread, the "Supes with Earth on the line vs. Gladiator with the Shi'ar Empire on the line" thread I think it was, I said that standard Superman is consistantly above standard Gladiator. FC Gladiator though, I believe, is superior to current Supes. And even Allankles backed that up as reasonable (and agreed).

So, I'm not defending Gladiator in this thread at all. Was just pointing out something to Naija.

Down, girl.

Superman not holding back vs. Full Confidence Gladiator has Glads on the losing end. He's never really even out muscled any top tier. The only way he really even beats Thor is with speed.

Does this debate matter at all? - They are the same being, in two different dimensions. Gladiator was created as a company in-joke; he's as much an analogue as Hyperion (whom he defeated in combat.)

Originally posted by Enyalus
No. I have a photographic memory and went through Avlon's collection. Obviously.

FC Gladiator though, I believe, is superior to current Supes. And even Allankles backed that up as reasonable (and agreed).

Ehh? 😕 I said, FC Glads is superior to current Supes? Must have been a while ago.

Originally posted by Allankles
Ehh? 😕 I said, FC Glads is superior to current Supes? Must have been a while ago.

Before him pulling Earth w/ Hal's help and KOing himself on the moon, after him lifting the Monitor's book with help, yeah.

Whatever lol.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Before him pulling Earth w/ Hal's help and KOing himself on the moon, after him lifting the Monitor's book with help, yeah.

Whatever lol.

Hal did provide the harness. Superman was the horse.

HE ko'd himself on a Dark energy moon that was moving in excess of some thousands of miles per second. Did you miss that?

And the monitor's book had infinite mass. With help, it's still infinite mass. Similiar to the spectre's weight. Which Superman also helped lift.

Monitor's book was never stated to have infinite mass, FG. Speculation on your part.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Monitor's book was never stated to have infinite mass, FG. Speculation on your part.

Hmm wasnt the spectre's supposed infinite weight being supported by a moon ( i seem to remeber him landing on a moon or something similar). that in itself tells us the real concept of mass wasnt being used.

How much does 10 years weigh?

How much does a billion?

How much does an eternity weigh?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Infinite pages=infnite mass. unless each page weighted Nothing.

Infinite pages in a finite space = impossible. I'm supposed to jump to the conclusion of something that's logical when the very concept of it is illogical?