Karl Ruprecht Kroenen versus Wolverine......

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, I imagine there are openings to vital organs, like the heart. Surely Karl would see Wolvie healing and figure out a way to stab the heart, brain, or whatever.

Wolvie doesnt heal instantly, he can bleed out, we saw him on the verge of passing out in X2 when Deathstrike was stabbing him over and over.

Where was he "bleeding out"? He was bleeding because she was stabbing him and he was in pain, once he got her off him, he was basically fine. Considering the amount of times she stabbed him, he wasn't bleeding at that much, because of the healing-factor, I assume.

He shown on several occasions how quickly he heals from serious cuts. In X3 he's shown to be able to regenerate lost tissue at an incredibly fast rate too. So it stands to reason, any blood he loses, is also replenished.

Bringing in that fight with Deathstrike as an unit of measure, she's far deadlier than the Nazi; if she couldn't bring him down permanently with her stabs and slashes, the Nazi certainly isn't.

im saying hed have to stab EXTREMELY quickly and constantly which means hed have to be close up and if wolverine manages to get kroenen off of him for even a short amount of time hed end up regenerating all of the blood hed lost and the damage that had been dealt while any damage dealt to karl will still be there

Originally posted by Robtard
Where was he "bleeding out"? He was bleeding because she was stabbing him and he was in pain, once he got her off him, he was basically fine. Considering the amount of times she stabbed him, he wasn't bleeding at that much, because of the healing-factor, I assume.

He shown on several occasions how quickly he heals from serious cuts. In X3 he's shown to be able to regenerate lost tissue at an incredibly fast rate too. So it stands to reason, any blood he loses, is also replenished.

Bringing in that fight with Deathstrike as an unit of measure, she's far deadlier than the Nazi; if she couldn't bring him down permanently with her stabs and slashes, the Nazi certainly isn't.

exactly it had to end that way there are only certain ways to kill someone with rapid healing like in LXG dorian gray and vamped out mina harker are fighting(fyi both heal rapidly) and dorian makes the joke "well be at this all day" eventually she pins him to the wall and does the only thing that can kill him which is show him his picture. my point being that u have to go to drastic measres to kill someone with rapid regeneration.

Well, dunno if Karl has "regenerative powers", but he does take some major punishment.

i was commenting on the deathstrike wolverine fight in X2 not the karl wolverine fight

I know, and I was addressing whether or not Karl can regenerate.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK, so if Wolvie hadn't killed Deathstrike the way he had, if the battle had went back to toe to toe, how would it have played out?

Considering Wolverine could barely touch her and when he did, her healing-factor would just kick in, it would have went on for a long, long time and Wolverine would have either died or been knocked unconcious, probably the latter. Not sure though.

I don't see Karl being able to avoid a serious hit from Wolverine for a very long time. He's fighting him close-range, as his blades are fairly short, just a matter of time before he loses a hand, arm or head, which he can't just grow back instantly.

hes more of a zombie than anything i mean hellboy had to drop a gigantic gear on him and crush him even landing on those spikes didnt kill him cuz hes all dust inside so it would take alot for wolverine to kill him but eventually hed wear him down in my opinion

Also, Wolverines blades can cut through Karl's blades no problem, once they get in close, he can easily lop off a number of limbs. And no, Karl can't regenerate, he just takes damage like nobodies business, since he replaced all of his organs except his brain with clockwork parts.

Well, for the sake of argument, I thought it was a given that Karl's blades could not be cut by Wolvie's. I guess I have to state it.

Wolvie's blades cannot slice through Karl's.

even so his hand can be and then no more blade

Also, Wolvie can take a stab, gran an arm, and brake it.

Forgetting that Karl is by far faster than Wolvie, are we?

Not forgetting the fact, just stating that If Logan can take having his flesh torn off, and just grunt in pain, then a stab isn't gonna do much, and he can actually walk into the stab so that while Karl is pulling out, grabbing his arm would be a simple thing.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Wonder what a blade through Wolvie's eye would do to him.

Yes hes fast at keeping bullets from hitting him by using his blades, but is he fast enough to stab someone so much (with a full adamantium surrounding him) to cause an effect? Even if so its not permanent, Wolverine will win, eventually.

Well perhaps the figh should not be to the death, maybe a KO will suffice?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well perhaps the figh should not be to the death, maybe a KO will suffice?

It took a bullet to the dome, the Juggernaut slam-tossing Logan to KO him, what in the **** is the Nazi going to do to compare with that?

Besides, the Nazi is some sort of zombie, doubt he can be KO'd. But I still say Wolverine (eventually) cuts off his arms and KO's him via 3-blade stab to the forehead.

And the bullet was a temporary KO, he got up a few seconds later, and not many people can stand up to the Juggman.

And he's right, Karl replaces just about all of his body parts with clockwork parts, and they said he loved self mutilation and surgery, he isn't truly human anymore. But Logan would take this win.