Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
And did you mean possession when you said that Kain could go inside Kratos?
I think he may have meant going inside Kratos while in mist form.
Although Possession may be useful too.
Originally posted by Gumachi
Nah. I doubt he could bloodshower the Gods as he couldn't bloodshower Elder God. Ares could pop his head, Zeus could banish him to Tartarus/kill him 1 thrust of the blade[and if you don't like me saying this your a hyprocrite], and Hades could rip out his soul. Kratos also could drain Kain's powers[unless they are "born" powers]. I would say Kratos could kill Kain as a human, but nah, that would make me a hyprocrite.So Seph is better than Kain 😄?
As I said, Elder God is beyond the GOW gods and is incpororeal. Nah, Zeus? he would never get that banishing wave off before Kain sticks him with the sword. Hades can only rip souls when he sticks all his chain things into you.
I was mocking AND joking 😉
Originally posted by Gumachi
In Blood Omen you can get hit while in mist form. And it's not like Kratos couldn't slow time or just evade and dodge it. I thought he could go inside your body? Kratos could drain the powers of Kain[unless they are "born" abilities]."Sold his soul for power. " 😬
No in Blood omen 2 its not a real mist form, in gameplay you could technically be hit. But this isnt Blood omen 2 Kain, all other mist powers including the latest one makes Kain into mist, not physical. And Kratos cannot manipulate time without a statue nearby, and the OP did not give him one.
Originally posted by KingD19
Kratos doesn't have a soul, he gave it to Ares. And you're saying Kain can dodge lightning and electricity? And he can dodge an earthquake? And he can dodge an army of undead spirits? And you're forgetting that each time Kain has done this to a powerful enemy, he has to beat them first.
I dont remember him actually losing his soul, can you find the evidence for this? Kain in the form of mist would escape lightning and electricity, he can also teleport. Earthquake? he wouldnt need to dodge an Earthquake, it woulndnt do anything to him. Undead spirits? yes he could, almost anyone can escape them because their not too quick also tbh your obvioulsy not thinking, Kain has a sword in his hand that devourours spirits, one swing and their history.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Yes, because, as we all know, Kain is so good at blasting or draining the souls of gods. He couldn't even cause any permanent damage to The Elder god, and like I said, that thing had a god complex.Kain's speed is moot in this fight, Kratos has bested opponents much faster than vampires 😬
The Elder God is beyond the beings in God of War universe on many levels, one of them being that it would be logically immune to almost anything Kain uses since it does not excist corporeally, so it was only wounded by the reaver, a plot device weapon which is the only thing that can kill it.
Vampires? maybe....Kain? no....hes never faced anyone as fast as Kain.
When Kain said "he couldn't die" he could have been simply talking about dying of old age. Besides, being immortal means you can't die of old age[maybe it's different in some terms?]. Alucard got his head his head chopped off, but he still was vurnerable to death.
As for Kain being fast, I have played LoK, and Kain is not all that fast. Kratos is faster imo. Kain from what I remember is kinda slow. Kratos fought with Zeus with was(most likely)faster than Kain.
Originally posted by Burning thought
I think he may have meant going inside Kratos while in mist form.Although Possession may be useful too.
As I said, Elder God is beyond the GOW gods and is incpororeal. Nah, Zeus? he would never get that banishing wave off before Kain sticks him with the sword. Hades can only rip souls when he sticks all his chain things into you.
I was mocking AND joking 😉
No in Blood omen 2 its not a real mist form, in gameplay you could technically be hit. But this isnt Blood omen 2 Kain, all other mist powers including the latest one makes Kain into mist, not physical. And Kratos cannot manipulate time without a statue nearby, and the OP did not give him one.
I dont remember him actually losing his soul, can you find the evidence for this? Kain in the form of mist would escape lightning and electricity, he can also teleport. Earthquake? he wouldnt need to dodge an Earthquake, it woulndnt do anything to him. Undead spirits? yes he could, almost anyone can escape them because their not too quick also tbh your obvioulsy not thinking, Kain has a sword in his hand that devourours spirits, one swing and their history.
The Elder God is beyond the beings in God of War universe on many levels, one of them being that it would be logically immune to almost anything Kain uses since it does not excist corporeally, so it was only wounded by the reaver, a plot device weapon which is the only thing that can kill it.
Vampires? maybe....Kain? no....hes never faced anyone as fast as Kain.
Yeah, I did.
He can be afar. Meaning he would never stick Kain? 😄 it's nearly impossible to dodge them unless you can stop time. Even Ares himself can't stop them.
Can't I say the same for the Gods?
Originally posted by Gumachi
When Kain said "he couldn't die" he could have been simply talking about dying of old age. Besides, being immortal means you can't die of old age[maybe it's different in some terms?]. Alucard got his head his head chopped off, but he still was vurnerable to death.As for Kain being fast, I have played LoK, and Kain is not all that fast. Kratos is faster imo. Kain from what I remember is kinda slow. Kratos fought with Zeus with was(most likely)faster than Kain.
No Kain shows he cant die when his heart is ripped out and he is fine later on, also the whole game is based around the fact Kain cannot die, not just Kain saying so but most beings say so, the only reason its ever said Raziel can kill kain, is because thats whats stated to be able to kill him, but this was later debunked.
Zeus has no feats of being faster than Kain, and Kains normal speed is greater than Kratos', the thing is Kain can use teleport and mist to escape any and all attacks used by Kratos, and can use dimentional teleport from the reaver, to move extremely quickly where he wants.
Well since he is already dead and he has had his physical life force and his spiritual life force ripped out of him and has ran around as if nothing had happened perhaps minutes later, yes thats pretty much saying he cannot die. He can be destroyed...if thats what you mean, at least in a Game VS debate, because his ability not to die at all is not allowed on the forums anymore.
yeh and it took 10k years to do the damage it did to Raziel. Which was insubstantial, infact Raziel felt like he was burning in the water for eternity. So obviously if it is like acid is to humans, Vampires in Nosgoth are ridiculously godly resilent. If you tossed a human into a mealstrom of acid they would be nothing but fat and jelley in minutes. If that
Originally posted by Burning thought
The Elder God is beyond the beings in God of War universe on many levels, one of them being that it would be logically immune to almost anything Kain uses since it does not excist corporeally, so it was only wounded by the reaver, a plot device weapon which is the only thing that can kill it.Vampires? maybe....Kain? no....hes never faced anyone as fast as Kain.
The Elder God isn't even a god, just a powerful parasite. Indeed, it also means that Kain doesn't have anything powerful enough to affect beings on the level of the Elder God and the gods of Olympus.
Zeus has demonstrated lightning fast speed, or at least a level of speed close enough. Kratos was able to keep up with Zeus. Kain isn't that fast, not unless he's in bat form, and even then he might not be that fast.
isnt a God? both Kain and the Elder God are gods, God is a title...thus they are Gods by their own fiction, their not Olmypions no....
have anything powerful enough? both Titans and Olmypions have been shown to be vulerable to soul powers which Kain posseses, they also do not have any shown resistance to Kains magic, Kain could use as I said, blood shower, time bolts etc to stop anything in GOW, especially Kratos who is imo one of the lesser beings among the Gods. And you goofed by saying Kain has nothing powerful enough to affect beings of the Elder Gods power, becaue he has the reaver, which does indeed defeat the Elder God
Show me Zeus' lighting fast speed please.
Kain isn't a god, not by definition. I was saying that nothing else but the reaver can affect the elder god, and if he is as you say, a god, it makes sense that only the reaver can affect Kratos. Kratos as a human brought down Zeus using the blade. If he gains his godly power back, and gets to keep the blade (even if it loses Kratos' power, it still is formidable)
They have no shown resistance to something like the blood shower since it hasn't been used on them 🤨, that's like saying Kain has no resistance to Typhon's bane.
Watch a fight against him, specifically when he zips around the arena with that dash of his. I don't think I need to provide a link, if you have played GoWII
And Kain's speed?
yes he is, he is deified, thus he is a God, same with the Elder God, he is worshiped as one. As I said, God is a title, if the Gods of Olmypus have shown on feats for the strange resistancce and durability your randomly giving them against any of Kains powers then their title as Gods means nothing.
Typhons bane is a mostly physical assault in the form of wind, so we can determine Kains resistance to it by that.....
I dont need to watch it ,i can play it like ive done many times, hes not the speed of lightning lol....
Kain:
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far far faster than anything Kratos has done. He moves about 4+ meters in a split second. He can also teleport and mist as stated to escape things Kratos himself could not.