Well its the speed feat ime interested in, moving 4+ meters in a blink of an eye is too quick for Kratos, then take into account Kain could be instantly moving from physical form into mist at will, teleporting and we will have Kratos pretty much dumfounded. He cant keep up with Kain, and if this is the biggest kratos, the enormous one...then he wouldnt even realise where Kain is half the time...
Originally posted by Burning thought
isnt a God? both Kain and the Elder God are gods, God is a title...thus they are Gods by their own fiction, their not Olmypions no....have anything powerful enough? both Titans and Olmypions have been shown to be vulerable to soul powers which Kain posseses, they also do not have any shown resistance to Kains magic, Kain could use as I said, blood shower, time bolts etc to stop anything in GOW, especially Kratos who is imo one of the lesser beings among the Gods. And you goofed by saying Kain has nothing powerful enough to affect beings of the Elder Gods power, becaue he has the reaver, which does indeed defeat the Elder God
Show me Zeus' lighting fast speed please.
Kain=Demigod. You was tossing around titles in the Kain vs Dante thread. There just false gods, God=title like you said, if your calling Kain a god, it is no different than me calling Mundus a god.
Just because he bloodshowers beings in LoK, doesn't mean he can just bloodshower the Gods in God of War.
As long as the Soul Reaver is divine or is a "god's weapon"[or can kill gods?]then I think he could kill the Gods. I mean, Ares was killed with a sword with no magic.
Originally posted by Burning thought
yeh given about 20,000 years.....and thats before he regained the souls of his sons.Calling it a weakness is like calling paper a humans weakness because you can get a paper cut....
You was Raziel, I was talking about Kain not Raziel.
Who said it's weak to humans? Since when could paper cuts kill humans?
Of course silly lol. And as for your "teleportation" statement have you forgotten Ares can teleport? Unless, he can run around circles and attack him like teleportation. Or unless he will be teleporting ALL OVER the place.
So if Kratos uses wind[tornado]on mist, what will happen?
So do you think Kain's Vampire Powers are better than the Gods[?]godly power?
Yeh Ares can teleport, but the thing is, Ares doesnt have many long range attacks, wheras most of Kians are very powerful and overpowered long range attacks.
Nothing most likely, kain has enough control over it to keep it together when passing through things, the most it would do is end up helping Kain because Kratos wont know where the mist will come back together, giving Kain the element of surprise.
Kains powers are far greater than the Gods in GOW, first of all most of them have few feats but Kain can do what hades does from range, he can do more than the others through his powers and can call lightning on all foes at once in the area, Zeus seems ot have to target one at a time. All of Kains powers are incredible.
He has Hades' Souls and can release fire.
But he could end up anywhere. And could you show me this mist? I wanna see what it's like. And wind in a way is like mist.
But Ares has shown awesome ability of his power, and not even Kain has shown to do that. Think it's possible Kain hasn't unlocked "some" powers?[but then again it has been what 2000 years?]
"While the full extent of his godly abilities are unknown, Ares as a god was immortal but could be killed by either the power of Pandora's Box or the Blade of Olympus. He was able to kill the Barbarians with ease by clapping his hands together, causing the men to burst into flames, be lifted into the air, snapped in half, as well as other brutal methods. He also had the ability to reclaim the Blades of Chaos and control them by means of telekinesis, while tormenting Kratos' mind. Ares also had the power of teleportation, launching fireballs, and the ability to materialize various weapons such as a gigantic war hammer, a fiery axe, and a fiery sword. This power, as well having six blade-like protrusions appear out from his back, made Ares an incredibly formidable foe. " And about killing Kain, so his sprit leaves his body[if his body is killed]? You do know if you die this actually happens, right?
Originally posted by Gumachi
He has Hades' Souls and can release fire.But he could end up anywhere. And could you show me this mist? I wanna see what it's like. And wind in a way is like mist.
But Ares has shown awesome ability of his power, and not even Kain has shown to do that. Think it's possible Kain hasn't unlocked "some" powers?[but then again it has been what 2000 years?]
"While the full extent of his godly abilities are unknown, Ares as a god was immortal but could be killed by either the power of Pandora's Box or the Blade of Olympus. He was able to kill the Barbarians with ease by clapping his hands together, causing the men to burst into flames, be lifted into the air, snapped in half, as well as other brutal methods. He also had the ability to reclaim the Blades of Chaos and control them by means of telekinesis, while tormenting Kratos' mind. Ares also had the power of teleportation, launching fireballs, and the ability to materialize various weapons such as a gigantic war hammer, a fiery axe, and a fiery sword. This power, as well having six blade-like protrusions appear out from his back, made Ares an incredibly formidable foe. " And about killing Kain, so his sprit leaves his body[if his body is killed]? You do know if you die this actually happens, right?
Thats Kratos your talking about who has Hades souls, Ares never has it from what i remember.
mist form, he does it often throughout the video.
So? why did you just llist Ares abilities....Kain hasnt killed barbarian hordes with TK but he would do so with diffrent abilities such as Lightning call and Blood shower.
You would have to actually destroy Kains body into nothingness for him to be defeated by any literal sense in these forums.
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Are his powers unlimited?
He could kill 1000s of Barbarians without getting torn apart with Lighting Call/Bloodshower?[unless the ****er can fly] And what is this lighting call? Is it like a rainstorm, but the rain=lighting? Ares[and Zeus took half]also took Krato's abilities[maybe since he took The Blades of Chaos they were taken away].
So, Kratos would have to have holy light energy to destroy him?
Indeed
And yes lightning call is like a rainstorm only with lightning, see:
http://www.dark-chronicle.co.uk/bo1/spells.php
This spell could only by used outside, but it was arguably the most destructive spell at Kain's disposal. It brutally killed all enemies in the area, raining down multiple bolts of lightning upon them.
Kratos would have to hit Kain with something powerful enough to turn him to dust, thing is nothing Kratos possesses could likely hit Kain, he is too quick and his teleportation is a bugger. Also this is unprotected Kain, your forgetting Kain has his repel shield.
Originally posted by Gumachi
Kratos kills beings who are already dead.
Not really, he prob just destroys them, you cant kill someone who is already dead.
Indeed to what?
So, could he do that to the Barbarians? And since your bringing out Lighting Storm, Kratos has Posidon's Rage. Which is exactly like a lighting storm. And since your bringing out Repel Sheild, Kratos has the Golden Fleece, which he could reflect most of Kain's attacks. Hades' Souls could attack him no matter how fast he is, Kratos throwing Zeus' Bolt is as Kain, Posidon's Rage he couldn't escape the AoE effect, unless he turns to mist[which I doubt would hurt]or go to a safe distance[and since he will be stunned he /most likely/ couldn't teleport].
Point being? Regardless, being UNDEAD is being UNDEAD.
unlmited power
Poseidons rage is in a very close knit ring around kratos, perhaps only a few meters around him, its not that powerful tbh and doesnt blast enemies to bits, infact even the weaker enemies it just lifts up and electrocutes. The Golden fleece could prob reflect only one of Kains attacks, and thats energy bolt....
Almost all of Kratos powers are very close ranged, poseidons rage, cronos rage and hades souls would be destroyed by Kain in one slash of his soul devouring sword. The lighting wouldnt be much of a threat either, it was never a powerful bolt that Kratos threw.
Where does it say he has unlimited power? Or was it atleast proven?
It allows him to not only block enemy attacks, but also deflect enemy projectiles and throw them back at his attackers. He can also stop Eurayle's ability if trying to stone him. And Kratos also has Sun Shield[in CoO].
Since when you could devour lighting? Since when could he could devour 100s[not literally]of souls at once? And he has to get Kratos weak to bloodshower him , didn't you say Kratos was a demigod? So how can he bloodshower a demigod? And does lighting have effect on Kain? Or does it just stun him and that's it?
Also, you have forgotton about Rage of The Gods/Titans. And his abilities in CoO. And he can also stone Kain and how good is this regen. of his? Kratos also has a spear and he could make Kain explode with it.
Efreet: "In God of War: Chains of Olympus, the Persian King apparently has the ability to summon the Efreet. This makes sense being that both are from the land of Persia/Arabia. Kratos however then gains the power after defeating the king at Attica. When used, it unleashes the fire spirit which attacks all surrounding enemies. It can also be leveled up, to increase the damage it does, and to receive new abilities. "
http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Efreet
Light of Dawn: "The Light of Dawn is a special power that Kratos gets in God of War: Chains of Olympus, after obtaining Primordial Fire within the Caves of Olympus. It allows Kratos to summon orbs of bright light and hurl them at his enemies. You can then level it up to increase the damage of the orbs, and to gain new abilities. "
http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Light_of_Dawn
Charon's Wraith: "When Kratos battles Charon, the ferryman has the ability to blast green, ravenous flames at the Spartan warrior, via the golden mask he wears. After Kratos defeats Charon, he takes the mask. With it, Kratos can blast the clouds of ravenous flames at his enemies, which do relentless damage for a brief period of time, and can also spread to any other enemies nearby. You can then level up this power to increase the damage it does, and to be able to cast multiple blasts of flames at a time. "
http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Charon%27s_Wrath
Zeus' Gaunlet: "This Gauntlet of Zeus was a gigantic gauntlet forged by Hepheastus, and used by Zeus to chain the mighty Titans in the depths of Tartarus. It was given to the Jailer of Tartarus to protect, and only he had the key to the Temple of Zeus.
Kratos finds and obtains the gauntlet in the Temple of Zeus located within Tartarus. The gauntlet is a weapon of the gods that can deliver devastating blows to opponents, and can even shatter solid stone and iron. "
he has unlimited magic power, through his regulation.
I know, and most of Kains powers and abilites are not projectiles, their unseen forces.
I said his sword devours the Hades souls, not the lightning. No he doesnt what says this? and yes, being a demi-god doesnt give him any special immunities. Lighting should have an effect on Kain, probably not much though.
Originally posted by Gumachi
Where does it say he has unlimited power? Or was it atleast proven?It allows him to not only block enemy attacks, but also deflect enemy projectiles and throw them back at his attackers. He can also stop Eurayle's ability if trying to stone him. And Kratos also has Sun Shield[in CoO].
Since when you could devour lighting? Since when could he could devour 100s[not literally]of souls at once? And he has to get Kratos weak to bloodshower him , didn't you say Kratos was a demigod? So how can he bloodshower a demigod? And does lighting have effect on Kain? Or does it just stun him and that's it?
Also, you have forgotton about Rage of The Gods/Titans. And his abilities in CoO. And he can also stone Kain and how good is this regen. of his? Kratos also has a spear and he could make Kain explode with it.
Efreet: "In God of War: Chains of Olympus, the Persian King apparently has the ability to summon the Efreet. This makes sense being that both are from the land of Persia/Arabia. Kratos however then gains the power after defeating the king at Attica. When used, it unleashes the fire spirit which attacks all surrounding enemies. It can also be leveled up, to increase the damage it does, and to receive new abilities. "
http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Efreet
Light of Dawn: "The Light of Dawn is a special power that Kratos gets in God of War: Chains of Olympus, after obtaining Primordial Fire within the Caves of Olympus. It allows Kratos to summon orbs of bright light and hurl them at his enemies. You can then level it up to increase the damage of the orbs, and to gain new abilities. "
http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Light_of_Dawn
Charon's Wraith: "When Kratos battles Charon, the ferryman has the ability to blast green, ravenous flames at the Spartan warrior, via the golden mask he wears. After Kratos defeats Charon, he takes the mask. With it, Kratos can blast the clouds of ravenous flames at his enemies, which do relentless damage for a brief period of time, and can also spread to any other enemies nearby. You can then level up this power to increase the damage it does, and to be able to cast multiple blasts of flames at a time. "
http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Charon%27s_Wrath
Zeus' Gaunlet: "This Gauntlet of Zeus was a gigantic gauntlet forged by Hepheastus, and used by Zeus to chain the mighty Titans in the depths of Tartarus. It was given to the Jailer of Tartarus to protect, and only he had the key to the Temple of Zeus.
Kratos finds and obtains the gauntlet in the Temple of Zeus located within Tartarus. The gauntlet is a weapon of the gods that can deliver devastating blows to opponents, and can even shatter solid stone and iron. "
Don't listen to BT about that "regulation" bull shit.
Regulating doesn't mean, "I wants all this nao pl0x :]"
it means keeping a regulation and balance.
But if Kratos needs blood to live, he looses.
Blood Siphon godly unknown label class power activates from Kain and just drains it out. He could even keep pouring it out of him and KITE.
edit: God Kratos* Okay, he's a very large being so it would take Kain so much time to continue to live and KITE and drain enough blood to even make a dent in Kratos, who as a God I don't know if he really needs blood to live. Eventually I think Kain might even get 'drunk' from to much consumption, so he'll have to start just letting ti spill randomly or spit it out. Even vampires get full.
Originally posted by Burning thought
he has unlimited magic power, through his regulation.I know, and most of Kains powers and abilites are not projectiles, their unseen forces.
I said his sword devours the Hades souls, not the lightning. No he doesnt what says this? and yes, being a demi-god doesnt give him any special immunities. Lighting should have an effect on Kain, probably not much though.
So it isn't a gameplay mechanic?
Realistically, when Eurayle tries to stone you it's unseen.
That site you posted about the Lighting Call. So he could devour 10 souls at once?
Originally posted by Voyeur
Don't listen to BT about that "regulation" bull shit.
Regulating doesn't mean, "I wants all this nao pl0x :]"
it means keeping a regulation and balance.But if Kratos needs blood to live, he looses.
Blood Siphon godly unknown label class power activates from Kain and just drains it out. He could even keep pouring it out of him and KITE.
It doesnt, go and look up the defintion again, regulation means you can regulate a subject, regulation. Youve found the regulation defintion before and it states quite clearly manipulating areas. Although you were right about one thing, its not "i wan this now plz" its, "I want this" because Kain wouldnt say please to himself.
Balance is a diffrent subject alltogether.
1. The act of regulating or the state of being regulated.
2. A principle, rule, or law designed to control or govern conduct.
3. A governmental order having the force of law. Also called executive order.
4. Embryology The capacity of an embryo to continue normal development following injury to or alteration of a structure.
Balance:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Balance
Ive bolded the important parts of regulation, he would simply control the magic and make Kratos as feeble as a monkey magicwise while making himself, infnite.
Originally posted by Gumachi
So it isn't a gameplay mechanic?Realistically, when Eurayle tries to stone you it's unseen.
That site you posted about the Lighting Call. So he could devour 10 souls at once?
Its not even used in gameplay, no. Kain only gains it at the end of the games.
Hm I dont know, if we go by the old legends of Medusa, if you look into her eyes directly, you turn to stone but that wouldnt make sense with a lot of aspects of Euryales head and we cannot assume because the fictions are diffrent in a video game.
well with one swing of his sword, he would likely have to hit the souls with the soul reaver.