Sephiroth vs Link

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Originally posted by Terryc250
Links fake durability feats. But real Link from LoZ gets harmed and can be killed by far less. Everyone knows that except you.

I don't see how it's 'faking' durability feats (how is that even possible?) when they change the character over time.

Guess what, every character in an old NES/SNES game is harmed or killed much more easily than more modern-day counterparts. It's because the games then were far more difficult than they are now.

The 'real' Link is any Link from any Zelda game. You can't just declare the Link from the original game is the only one that's 'real' because it'll fit your arguments.

@Terry.

Lol, see Voyeur's post above? Read it.

and no, to stop a game from being broken grunts have to be more than time wasters, this is why we use the top feats, not the bottom ones, we use the canon feats that show the characters at their best, and Link is TOTALLY invulnerable to Sephiroth who's strength feats are totally negligible.

Peach also covered the lolfakedurabilityfeats. Terry, you're the only one left defendign Sephiroth as we've all proved he has no chance, his sword can't even break Link's skin.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Links fake durability feats. But real Link from LoZ gets harmed and can be killed by far less. Everyone knows that except you.
who knows that? apparently, Screampaste and Voyur don't oblige to you theory.

Originally posted by Peach
I don't see how it's 'faking' durability feats (how is that even possible?) when they change the character over time.

Guess what, every character in an old NES/SNES game is harmed or killed much more easily than more modern-day counterparts. It's because the games then were far more difficult than they are now.

The 'real' Link is any Link from any Zelda game. You can't just declare the Link from the original game is the only one that's 'real' because it'll fit your arguments.

It's possible to fake durability feats by claiming something happened when it didn't, then calling it a "feat"

Does this look like an exploding moon? (at 4:10)
YouTube video

Or does it simply look like a moon transforming top to bottom into a rainbow?

Explosions would have caused damage to the surroundings, explosions aren't "rainbow" in color. And if its "inertia" as you say, the inertia would have affected Link as well.

So i'm calling BS on your claim that Link tanked a moon explosion. So to me, that's a "fake durability feat"

It's not the fact that he's been harmed by less in old games, it's the fact that he gets harmed by less in every single LoZ game. You really think Link would take NO damage from Sephiroths sword which casually cuts columns of skyscrapers apart?

and no, to stop a game from being broken grunts have to be more than time wasters, this is why we use the top feats, not the bottom ones, we use the canon feats that show the characters at their best, and Link is TOTALLY invulnerable to Sephiroth who's strength feats are totally negligible.

Peach also covered the lolfakedurabilityfeats. Terry, you're the only one left defendign Sephiroth as we've all proved he has no chance, his sword can't even break Link's skin.


Right, just clashing with Sephiroths sword has enough power output from the clash incave concrete and iron on the ground below him, and thats at his weakest form. Cutting concrete with his sword has enough power to inflame the concrete ablaze. Yet you think Link wouldn't get damaged at all by it? Right.. yet Link gets damaged falling out of trees, getting hit by whips, regular arrows, etc.

Did everything I type go over your pea brain sized head?

Look I dumbed it down SOO much for you guys.

The Moon's size doesn't matter ok. It's like the type of rock the pillar was, it's not part of the equation.

The Pocket Universe, that miniature dimension, is where all that energy and force of explosion went off in. The moon, the shell, just happened to be the physical bubble to this phenomenon.

Link is expelled down to the Field from this force explosion also. Or else if there was no explosion, the moon simply would of "trasmuted into a rainbow" and Link would of fell safely back to the top of clock tower. Not the case. The scene is shown entirely in slow motion. Explosions, do you know much about them? I guess you think lightning comes from the sky too. But we will skip that science lesson for today.

It's like when you light a match, or a fire cracker. The wick ignited by the flame starts from the top and works it way down. This is the same thing in this matter with Majora's energy bursting apart his dimension, and disintegrating the Moon. It's show in slow motion. If it was done quickly, you'd probably just see the moon explode, like when you see other things do so. And most the time things are at the core, this was done some where in the presumed top where Majora had placed the pocket dimension of the final fight.

It's so easy to get mate. And just because he hasn't been shown to do that he can't now? I mean, where is the logic in that. Time line wise, Ocarina of Time is the only time Link existed before Majora's Mask. And they're the same Link, young Link when sent back 7 years to his child hood went to go look for Navi and that is when Majora's Mask takes place. So yeah, in OoT he is never faced with such a matter so he can't show that durability. But here he is now, after that ordeal, and is shown be able to take it. What is so hard for you to understand that. Link isn't a push over mate. As much as you hate Link for some unknown reason, and I don't have a mad boner for him, this feat is pretty amazing and pretty obvious.

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Lets say the parenthesis represent the moon. And the exclamation point at the top is where you fight Majora. The bottom of it can be the island. And the rest of it is the entire Pocket Universe, which isn't really the hollow cavity of the Moon. It technically isn't hollow, you're just in another dimension. Okay, so this Explosion starts off from the top, you want it to magically go to the middle and start out with a sudden burst from there? It can't. See, the energy has to expel and destroy downwards. And it pops the bubble of a moon, since it existed on a physical plane, containing the pocket universe, and gets eaten up in the very end blast radius. The force inertia ends there. With only enough, reasonable though since he wouldn't weigh much, to expel Link's body and hurl to the fields.

Once again, the rainbow, simply for the happy ending, omg you won effects. If you're going to be pulling on that rainbow thread all day, then you're really stretching for anything to get your little hands on to try and win. I beat you with science and reason, and you have "lolrainbow." Get over yourself. What I say is obvious, you can even bring it a vote.

A rainbow is an optical and meteorological phenomenon that causes a spectrum of light to appear in the sky when the Sun shines onto droplets of moisture in the Earth's atmosphere. They take the form of a multicoloured arc, with red on the outer part of the arch and violet on the inner section of the arch.

Not even if something transformed to nothing would it magically make a rainbow. It actually shows evidence that the moon was destroyed, and then the sun beams that would be dominate since the moon isn't there to absorb and reflect them is what produced the rainbow. If you want to be technical.

I explained to you already, the explosion goes off and destroys the pocket universe. It's vast and wide and infintely so. It isn't the span of the length inside the moon, it clearly shows a sky going on for ever. It's another world, separate of the cavity space inside the Moon. The explosion takes place in there, enough to destroy that minature universe, then continue to have enough force to rip apart it's bubble, the moon. And expel Link out to the field.

SIMPLE, so damn simple to understand. Who else gets it?

Seph's sword has shown nothing in par with the destruction Link has canonicly tanked. 🙄

Go read Voyeur's post with the video, Terry. go check the Link vs Dante threa,d go read the Link respect thread, even without the moon Link tanked hits from Ganon that could *disintegrate* stone. =D

and remember how we go by the top canon feats? lolgameplay. you want Link to walk around invulnerable to everything? That'd be a really fun game.. /eyeroll.

Seph cannot hurt Link. Prove me wrong?

Edit: This seems relevant, Voyeur and myself talking in chat.

😆

Show me Ganon disintegrating stone.

Link has canonically tanked nothing, except from hits by Ganon. The lifestream was capable of disintegrating a Meteor. Meteors durability > Links.

I have read Voyeurs post, it was a desperate reasoning on proving how it could be possible that the moon exploded, but was still full of holes everywhere.

Link isn't invulerable to everything. The creators never made it so Link was invulnerable to everything.

It's a shame Sephiroth is immune to transformations, so being turned into a bot, won't work.

Also, "zeldapedia" is NOT legit, hell, I can edit Links profile and state "Luigi is more powerful then Link" and that would make it canon?

..You're beyond help.

Go reread our posts, check the Link respect thread, ect.. Lifestream=useless, Sephiroth explodes on contact with a tennis ball Link had in his pocket. Or a bomb Link threw.. or anythign Link throws at Seph instantly ending the poor kid's life. 😐

HOW the moon exploded? Nah mate. It's canon. That pocket universe by canon description was created from the hatred and memories of Majora along with the evil entity's powers.

He explodes into a pure mass of energy, clearly shown in the video. And brings that world to an end. The physical moon, as shown it being a physical matter in the video, gets destroyed as well as an end result. The Moon no longer being there to absorb and reflect the sun light, which is how the Moon shines at night, it's just reflecting the Sun's Rays, caused a rainbow to appear along the atmosphere. And then Link's body was expelled to the fields where we awakes from in the video as well.

If the moon just magically dissapeared, then Link would of fell from with in that dimension to the back of Clock Tower where the match first takes place before you enter into the moon. By your theory. But when he is waking up, he's laying in the field, possibly for a maximum of 2 minutes. And then gets up. No one else there except a Skull Kid crying & in shock couple feet away from him, and Tael and Tatl, the 2 fairies, not strong enough to carry Link. So it's easily seen he was shot to that spot, then woke up.

All in the video. All canon. None of this is actually theory bull shit.
It's canon. And I'd love for you to point out my holes "EVERY WHERE" because you simply don't have proof.

Originally posted by Terryc250

Also, "zeldapedia" is NOT legit, hell, I can edit Links profile and state "Luigi is more powerful then Link" and that would make it canon?

It's run by intelligent people who would just get rid of your BS and make sure everything there is up to par and facts. They're not just going to let it go to hell with retadation. Even the Sephiroth one I have been reading is very legit. No one is saying "lulz Link is teh best" on there. It's facts. And if not facts or canon they put in red, Theory Warning.

Common sense, I want to just free-base it and inject it into you :]

@ Voyeur

No matter how you look at it, an explosion does NOT work from top to bottom, the video isn't even in slow motion. I don't know where you're getting that from. A firecracker wick burning up is COMPLETELY different from an explosion.

None of this is real proof, all this is, is you desperately trying to create a theory on how that could possibly be an explosion.

If it has enough inertia to take the moon, it certainly would have inertia to take Link with it. That's where your theory fails, along with other holes, like the rainbow color, if a moon explodes, there will be NO rainbow color, just as if a building explodes there would be no rainbow color.

Sephiroth simply teleports away, kills him with the NL. Game over, don't be a poor sport now.

It's run by intelligent people who would just get rid of your BS and make sure everything there is up to par and facts. They're not just going to let it go to hell with retadation. Even the Sephiroth one I have been reading is very legit. No one is saying "lulz Link is teh best" on there. It's facts. And if not facts or canon they put in red, Theory Warning.

Common sense, I want to just free-base it and inject it into you :]


Sorry but anything thats editable by anyone is hardly a reliable source, nor canon. The people who run it cannot look after every single topic on that wiki. The only reliable sources are the statements made from the producers and people who are connected with the game developers themselves. Not fans who can edit in their opinions.

So don't tell me to use my "common sense" when you don't even have common knowledge

*pats Terry's head*

when you go learn about things for yourself, like how explosions work and such and reactions, chemical or molecular, so on and so forth. then we can talk Jr.

Buildings are man made. They don't illuminate the night sky by reflecting the Sun's rays across the span of that distance genius. I'm not pulling for theories, cos I was able to explain this to cosmic right after he asked me about it. It's just common sense. I didn't sit here and think, how can I pull this one out of my ass, like you post half the time. Then change your idea and say Sephiroth is capable of something entirely new, instead of knowing it the first time around.

And it destroyed the moon but not Link, kind of proving what the feat is all about huh kiddo? We're showing Link has the durability and endurance to with stand that blast and still survive. That's sort of the whole point, kek. You're cute when things go over your head. I feel like I'm a tutor or something @__@

Well I think a certain some one put it very well, you're about as annoying as a tiny dog trying to hump my leg. Yapping, all bark and no bite. So, yeah....kek

I aleady explained to you btw about the explosion.
It started there and it blew up the rest of it below. Jeeze. How more simple can I get. The explosion is the flame. The moon is th wick. The top is where the explosion started or in this case is ending from where it actually started in the pocket universe. And then it reacts and eats up the rest of the moon in the process. Like a flame on a wick would. Get it? good boy.

The only way the moon can entirely turn into a rainbow, is if it evaporated into water. So i guess Link tanked a moon evaporating into water.

Notice at the bottom of the moon when it turned into a rainbow, it touched the bottom part but didn't cause any harm to it at all?

What destroyed the moon? The moon simply evaporated, that's all. There was no output explosion, no nothing.

A flame burning a wack is completely different from an "explosion" you can't compare the two. The moon turning into a rainbow is more like an ice evaporating into the air, causing a rainbow.

Stop acting like a little kid, and accept your defeat. Using Links real feats, Sephiroth takes this battle with ease.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Link has canonically tanked nothing, except from hits by Ganon. The lifestream was capable of disintegrating a Meteor. Meteors durability > Links.

Don't forget that if Sephiroth decided to use a meteor on Link, nothing will stop it, as Link has no way in hell to stop it.

You're delusional, Link's 'real' [ie the ones *you* accept] feats are STILL way beyond anything Sephiroth can handle.

Originally posted by Voyeur
when you go learn about things for yourself, like how explosions work and such and reactions, chemical or molecular, so on and so forth. then we can talk Jr.

You shouldn't really call him a jr when he has been on here longer than me.

Originally posted by Ultimate Wil
Don't forget that if Sephiroth decided to use a meteor on Link, nothing will stop it, as Link has no way in hell to stop it.
This takes uhm... MONTHS! Lol, Majora brought down the MOON in three days and Link still kicked his ass. 😆

....wow....wow.....

The explosion, that happened in the pocket universe. Ok?

tell me you understand that first then I'll move on to my next post because you seem to get lost in translation. This is the Omnislash/Granite/Spell Bot/ shit all over again I swear to god.

edit: actually I have come to the conclusion your mind has not matured yet to be able to grasp such concepts. Pocket Universes themselves is a whole other lesson and beyond normal schooling. I gave you the benefit of the doubt to say you're in High School, and at least a teenager. You still need time to learn and grow. I don't want to talk to a kid any more.

This was fun and all but I really have better places to exert my energy. At least into a more intelligent thread. I don't have time to deal with people who give fellatio to characters created for fan girls like Sephiroth. Who shouldn't appeal to males unless they're slightly bi-curious or homosexual and nothing is wrong with that. I'm just stating it. Hell, my favorite character is a transvestite =P

Peace out little boy :]

in before- I know you'll say some childish remark like "oh then you concede" and "lol tantrum", trying to taunt me and further showing you're immaturity. I just want you to know, I do forfeit because of your complete and total lack of being able to understand simple physics, math, science and so forth. And not being able to go beyond game play or mechanics. I stress that I do entirely concede, sure, but it is due to you not being an intelligent and reasonable debator. I had to resort to trolling and using memes which I hate to even get you off the one-minded minimal points you like to drill into. Like the grainte, the omnislash, and so on. You forget things your own character can do and then quickly interject it into later conversations, shouldn't you know what he's capable of to begin with before jumping into these sort of things. That in itself destroys some credibility of your knowledge of Sephiroth. Most of what you say is your perception and Non-Canon then for all we know.

So yeah, oh no, woe is me. I quit. But ScreamPaste, if he even still has the patience to put up with you, will continue I'm sure.

No.. Sephiroth wouldn't use meteor in a fight..

Originally posted by Ultimate Wil
You shouldn't really call him a jr when he has been on here longer than me.

...um, yeah, 90% of KMC has been around longer than you have, that's absolutely meaningless...

Originally posted by Voyeur
....wow....wow.....

The explosion, that happened in the pocket universe. Ok?

tell me you understand that first then I'll move on to my next post because you seem to get lost in translation. This is the Omnislash/Granite/Spell Bot/ shit all over again I swear to god.


So show me the explosion? Oh you can't? K.

Your theory fails on many levels. The moon did NOT explode, as much as you would like it to, it didn't. Sorry.