Nope, loads of facts, like for one, Link can tank hits far beyond anything Sephiroth could dream of dealing out, and has done reliably.
K, so Link potentially catches a cold? Good thing Link can deflect the lifestream. [Canon fact literally stated, has been since aLttP, don't bother disputing it, it's why the sword bounces Ganon's magic back at him.]
Lol, juggernaut skin? It's called durability feats, like you know, being inside the moon when it's destroyed/exploded/imploded/evaporated/owneditself/emoed. or tanking hits that disintegrate, not smash or break, disintegrate stone pillars designed to hold up a castle.
Seph can't touch that with his class 10 self.
Too bad a moon never exploded/imploded, but only transformed into a rainbow which did no harm to anything.
Good thing the NL =/= magic, but actual physical matter. Nor could he deflect something city sized.
So show me Link taking these shots? I bet its in gameplay too. Going by gameplay Sephiroth takes hundreds of slashes and bullets, and 30 giant deathrays from outer space(bahamut zero)
Class 10? Sephiroth in just his weakest form, clashed swords, and the output of force from the sword clash causes iron and concrete to incave below them. Not even two 50ton cars crashing into eachother at 500 miles per hour would have that much output energy.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Lol what's with all these Link vs threads lately? Some of them attempted spites like the Ultimecia one. lol.Slower? Sure. But Link is fast enough in reflexes in order to not be blitzed. And being that he is a defensive fighter it reduces much of the need to be toe to toe as fast as Seph.
Weaker? LMAO. Sephiroth's strongest recorded feat is when he impaled Midgar Zolom on a tree.
The largest snake known is the prehistoric Titanoboa. 40-50 feet long and 2,500 lbs.
Here's a scale for reference.
Now, Midgar Zolom is noted in the game to be '30 feet tall'. Snakes can raise up half their body length so let's assume Midgar Zolom is 60 feet long.
Let's say we scale up a 48 foot 2500 lb Titanoboa to 60 feet, same as Midgar Zolom. That's a 25% increase in body size. Which would mean it's weight would be doubled to 5000 lbs. Midgar Zolom appears to be quite a bit bulkier proportionately than a Titanoboa of even equal length, so let's say a 60 foot Midgar Zolom is double the weight at 10,000 lbs.
That's very rough work but that would put Midgar Zolom at 5 tons. I'd accept 8 tons, at best.
5-8 tons is very very light compared to what Oot/MM or TP Link have dealt with. Link is physically stronger than Seph by feats.
Class 10 is GENEROUS.
Originally posted by Genesis
He cannot break skin but he can split a skyscraper in half just by raising his hand? Really?
Link's skin is A: more durable than a bit of concrete. B: immune to Seph's TK due to his sword which evil may never touch" or Ganon would have TK'd him long ago.
@Terry: the ability to reflect evil doesn't ask it be magic, and even so, magic isa catch all word for spiritual/nonphysical energy/
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Link's skin is A: more durable than a bit of concrete. B: immune to Seph's TK due to his sword which evil may never touch" or Ganon would have TK'd him long ago.
What makes you think Sephiroth and Ganon share the same TK? They sure as hell don't share the same magical ability. Sephiroth's is more vast. Also, it wasn't concrete. Try steel, metal, concrete and over one hundred thousand tonnes of building.
What makes Link's skin so special? Sephiroth has been stabbed, slashed, has had a bunch of magic used against him and has literally revived himself. I'm sorry but Link better have more than just durable skin or he's f*ckered.
Lol, Link was inside the moon when it exploded, his skin > anythign Sephiroth has, period.
and the source of the TK don't matter, the only debatable point is whether the being using it needs to be evil. Seph is evil, so it applies, it's his sword, it has an anti-curse/TK/retardedOPmovecauseI'maplotsheild aura, and can stop such crap even when Link isn't touching it, and Seph can't take it from him since "it's a sacred blade which evil may never touch."
Originally posted by Voyeur
Cosmic asked me about this and I explained it to him, and before I loose all my effort I'll post it for you guys here. I hope this is simple enough for you guys to understand. I can go more into depth if needed but it should be very simple to understand this, so PLEASE read thoroughly.Explosions can be contained inside the cavity of something. In this case the cavity is the hollowed out region with inside the moon. This isn't an ordinary cavity, and it in fact isn't even technically inside the Moon in question. It's a pocket universe. Created from Majora, based on his past experiences where I'd have to go in depth of his story and what he exactly is, so. Majora is a God of evil incarnate, bound to a Mask who possessed and used the Skull Kid as a puppet. He threatened to destroy the world in the past and was brought down by the rivaled powers of Fierce Deity. Exiled and ridiculed by people around him, is what drove him to want to destroy the world and grow powerful from hate. This is a miniature universe created by him.
@ start of vid and a bit in. You'll see the floating island of land you walk about with a Tree in the middle. The rest is an infinite amount of sky above, below and every where else around you. This is the pocket universe created by Majora "inside" the Moon.
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Alright, so the explosion of force that generated from Majora's own energy blasting out is contained in this pocket dimension.
So I watched the explosion again to debunk myself to prove if this isn't merely the world Majora created dissolving because he doesn't have the mental ability too hold it together any more, but it is not the case. The world is created, it stays that way and doesn't revert, even if he had just left it there. It just gets blown to kingdom come. Even if that was the case it is a clear physical reaction. He's exploding and the force is shaking the realm around him, as he clearly is breaking apart, becoming energy. And due to sound it would also be some sort of eruption. The end result being the brink of the blast radius to destroy the shell of a Moon. The force of the blast and inertia being contained inside the pocket universe, Inside the bubble of a Moon. And that shell being destroyed, showing still the force of the explosion. Because Majora didn't create the moon. He brought it down out of orbit. So the force was some type of blast that disintegrated the moon on a physical level, because simply, physical matter and objects just don't dissolve magically kids. Or as Terry puts "transmutes into a rainbow." Something needs to apply an explosive force to blow up and break something apart at the seams.The Moon, which was a physical existing matter and not something created from Majora. And thus it would prove the moon is a bubble in which it acted as a shell containing the pocket universe destroyed by Majora's own power bursting from him and bringing down everything, resulting in the pop of the bubble the moon exploding.
i.e. The Moon is a Bubble. Something from the inside popped it with force. The force ended inside that bubble, and no further inertia is carried out.
Easily assumed the Little island of Land takes some where at the top of Moon, or at least the region of the miniature dimension where you have the final fight against Majora does. That would mean when he started to explode and the pocket universe began to shake and erupt, the top of the Moon felt the ending result first. So the bubble began to pop and break apart from where the strongest out laying force of the explosion would start, and then began onwards. The rainbow, once again is there for the "Happy ending" game play.
So Link took that explosion which brought down a pocket universe at point blank. The force of the blast carried through out and destroyed the dimension, and ended with a force so great enough to bring it's shell/the moon to dust.
side note: each of the other kids take you to Dungeons which could be sub-dimensions inside the main pocket universe.
@1:50 you can see the moon crashing through the lower atmosphere, proving it's physical and even causing the land around it to react. Showing when it was destroyed, the blast had to take some where else, e.g. the pocket universe.
@ 5:45 (you see Link enter, Skull Kid's body still laying there: Assumed he woke up during the match by Tael, & went to the Field to be safe)
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Once again, no moon exploded in that video. Nothing was harmed.
Since when does that make it all he's capable of? If i lift up a tennis ball does that mean thats all i'm capable of?
By that logic, Ganon shouldnt beable to harm Link at all if Link has the master sword, which is false.
Link is capable of being harmed by faar far weaker then Sephiroth sword.
Originally posted by Genesis
What makes you think Sephiroth and Ganon share the same TK? They sure as hell don't share the same magical ability. Sephiroth's is more vast. Also, it wasn't concrete. Try steel, metal, concrete and over one hundred thousand tonnes of building.What makes Link's skin so special? Sephiroth has been stabbed, slashed, has had a bunch of magic used against him and has literally revived himself. I'm sorry but Link better have more than just durable skin or he's f*ckered.
And everytime Sephiroth has been slashed/stabbed with a sword he has been severely hurt or defeated....not a great defense for him.
Originally posted by Terryc250
Once again, no moon exploded in that video. Nothing was harmed.Since when does that make it all he's capable of? If i lift up a tennis ball does that mean thats all i'm capable of?
By that logic, Ganon shouldnt beable to harm Link at all if Link has the master sword, which is false.
Link is capable of being harmed by faar far weaker then Sephiroth sword.
Ganon can harm Link, but thankfully for Ganon he has an incalculable strength advantage over Sephiroth.
Originally posted by Terryc250
Once again, no moon exploded in that video. Nothing was harmed.Since when does that make it all he's capable of? If i lift up a tennis ball does that mean thats all i'm capable of?
By that logic, Ganon shouldnt beable to harm Link at all if Link has the master sword, which is false.
Link is capable of being harmed by faar far weaker then Sephiroth sword.
1 See Voyeur's post.
2 if it's the heaviest thing you ever lift, probably.
3 Ganon harms Link how? through physical force, and Ganon is a MONSTER when it comes to raw power.
4 False, Link's durablity>Sephiroth's sword.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
And everytime Sephiroth has been slashed/stabbed with a sword he has been severely hurt or defeated....not a great defense for him.
Only when he was basically a human.
1 See Voyeur's post.2 if it's the heaviest thing you ever lift, probably.
3 Ganon harms Link how? through physical force, and Ganon is a MONSTER when it comes to raw power.
4 False, Link's durablity>Sephiroth's sword.
2. Right, i've already given a strength feat done in Sephiroths weakest form. Hell, even Loz who is a fraction of Sephiroth strength easily knocked down a tree that was the size of a building. Punched the ground and caused a huge ground wave.
3. The Negative Lifestream becomes physical as well. Show me some physical ganon feats plz.