Sephiroth easily wins because Link is too slow to avoid getting sliced to pieces.stop trolling Sephiroth can't even hurt Link, I'm slower than a fly, but like hell am I gonna be killed by one.This is the only correct answer.
Even if we did accept the whip feat, it wouldn't matter. Sephiroth can do 5+ attacks within a second, in his weakest form, easily (While slicing through a ton of metal).The whip feat stands, give me one /valid/ reason it shouldn't be? No one has yet.
Besides, Adam Winrich a /real person/ can achieve 7 whip cracks per second. Adam < Majora. Link can easily react to Sephiroth.
The meteor landing fewat was not Sephiroth, it was Jenova. Seph is harmed by much less.
Link swords him, and he dies.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
I have yet seen one other use for the gauntlets. Why didn't Link use it on Ganon, when the Master Sword was loosened from his hands? It's gotta be better than the Megaton Hammer and Biggoron sword, right?
Also, Ganon is even stronger than Link is with the golden gauntlets.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
stop trolling Sephiroth can't even hurt Link, I'm slower than a fly, but like hell am I gonna be killed by one.The whip feat stands, give me one /valid/ reason it shouldn't be? No one has yet.
Besides, Adam Winrich a /real person/ can achieve 7 whip cracks per second. Adam < Majora. Link can easily react to Sephiroth.
The meteor landing fewat was not Sephiroth, it was Jenova. Seph is harmed by much less.
Link swords him, and he dies.
Technically people have been killed by flies before. (Diseases they carry and whatnot, eating them)
Because I played through, and I got hit by every whip attack.
Majora hasn't exceeded more then 7 whip cracks per second. Also 7 whip cracks != 5 sword attacks.
You still don't get it, the whip isn't moving at the speed of sound all the time it HAS to ACCELERATE then DECELERATE otherwise it would only CRACK ONCE!
Therefore, by using quick guesstimate you can presume where the whip will crack and move out of where you presume it will.
HAHAHA, you do not understand do you?
Think of Sephiroth as an entity which only exists as Will.
Think of Jenova as a physical entity which only has Instincts. (Much like an Ant)
Think of Sephiroths Will taking over Jenovas Instincts. (Therefore taking control of the body)
That is what happened, that is what the creators have said and what has been shown in-game.
Sephiroth IS Jenova!
At what point has Sephiroth been injured by less?
Link would not ever hit Sephiroth with a Sword, Sephiroth would parry the hell out of it.
7 cracks means that the whip attacks seven times, and you can't dodge that before it cracks or he'll just crack it at where you're going. This is how a whip works. The whip feat stands until I get some logical argument against it. 😐
Sephiroth can try to parry all he likes, Link's so strong it'll still obliterate Seph. This is like trying to block a freight train with a stick. It doesn't work.
The sword would attack Sephiroth's "will" because it's evil, destroying him utterly. :]
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
7 cracks means that the whip attacks seven times, and you can't dodge that before it cracks or he'll just crack it at where you're going. This is how a whip works. The whip feat stands until I get some logical argument against it. 😐Sephiroth can try to parry all he likes, Link's so strong it'll still obliterate Seph. This is like trying to block a freight train with a stick. It doesn't work.
The sword would attack Sephiroth's "will" because it's evil, destroying him utterly. :]
It doesn't prove his speed though. Only his reaction time.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
He was wearing them the entire fight, what do you mean "use them"?They're a permanent boost to his strength. You could be superman, if you have a sword it's still better than your fists.Also, Ganon is even stronger than Link is with the golden gauntlets.
If the golden gauntlets are so powerful, why didn't he punch the hell out of Ganon instead of using the Megaton Hammer/Biggoron Sword? He didn't use those two weapons to destroy a huge pillar so if you say the golden gauntlets increases more than just lifting strength, there must be an answer to that.
If I was Superman, I wouldn't need a sword since I could just bust through steel with my fists.
And I'm aware of Ganon's strength. That is why I mentioned that he would be a better match for Sephiroth.
From how I've understood everyones talking about that particular feat, it's been all about Link's speed. But there's more he can react to than just the tip of the whip. There's the rest of the whip to take in consideration as well.the problem with this is you can't dodge until it cracks. Otherwisde they crack it at where you'll be, and you get hit. Link literally has to react to the crack.
If the golden gauntlets are so powerful, why didn't he punch the hell out of him instead of using the Megaton Hammer/Biggoron Sword? He didn't use those two weapons to destroy a huge pillar so if you say the golden gauntlets increases more than just lifting strength, there must be an answer to that.and you don't understand basic physics. Even with the golden Gauntlets Link needs a weapon to hurt Ganon, because Ganon can shrug off attacks that level castles without a scratch. Now, if I can throw something that weighs 1000 tons, and I have a sword, the amount of force I can exert with a sword FAR outclasses what I can with my fists. A fist fight with Ganondorf is suicide for anyone.If I was Superman, I wouldn't need a sword since I could just bust through steel with my fists.
And I'm aware of Ganon's strength. That is why I mentioned that he would be a better match for Sephiroth.
Also, Ganon spites Sephiroth VERY badly.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
the problem with this is you can't dodge until it cracks. Otherwisde they crack it at where you'll be, and you get hit. Link literally has to react to the crack.
A commenced attack with the whip limits the areas of impact and you can begin dodging before the tip actually its.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
7 cracks means that the whip attacks seven times, and you can't dodge that before it cracks or he'll just crack it at where you're going. This is how a whip works. The whip feat stands until I get some logical argument against it. 😐Sephiroth can try to parry all he likes, Link's so strong it'll still obliterate Seph. This is like trying to block a freight train with a stick. It doesn't work.
The sword would attack Sephiroth's "will" because it's evil, destroying him utterly. :]
No, that guy has to use a specific whip and pattern to whip it 7 times a second, he cannot do it wherever he wants. The whip isn't moving at super-sonic speeds the entire time only for the brief moment it cracks.
No, if he was in the middle of his swing, he could NOT change it's intended vector without stopping it's ability to crack at it's next vector UNLESS he cracked it at it's current position and then re-accelerated to the next vector which you could also use guesswork to 'react' to.
You do not need to move at super-sonic speeds to 'dodge' a whip. You just need good judgement.
Also Link never dodged or reacted to a whip.
Are you still refusing to believe Sephiroth IS Jenova?
How would it attack his Will? I have NEVER seen it attack anyones Will.
Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl!
[b]From how I've understood everyones talking about that particular feat, it's been all about Link's speed. But there's more he can react to than just the tip of the whip. There's the rest of the whip to take in consideration as well. [/B]
No, there is no whip crack to dodge or react to in a whip attack.
If you have good judgement you can easily guess where it is intended to strike and move out of the way before it does.
He doesn't react at super-sonic speeds.
He does react at supwer sonic speeds, he can't dodge pe-emptively, as I've explaiend a hundred times. If he dodges before the crack, when Majora cracks, he can just aim where Link moved to.
No the whip isn't at super sonic speeds at all times, but it is during the only time that matters, during the attack. It's still super-sonic when Link reacts to it.
Link reacts on super-sonic levels. Now debate that point logicly, or stop repeating yourself.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
and you don't understand basic physics. Even with the golden Gauntlets Link needs a weapon to hurt Ganon, because Ganon can shrug off attacks that level castles without a scratch. Now, if I can throw something that weighs 1000 tons, and I have a sword, the amount of force I can exert with a sword FAR outclasses what I can with my fists. A fist fight with Ganondorf is suicide for anyone.Also, Ganon spites Sephiroth VERY badly.
A fist fight with Ganon is just as suicidal as using a sword (still close-range). But if Link can touch him with a weapon besides the Master Sword what could be wrong with using the gauntlets? Link could use golden arrows to blind Ganon and then haymaker his ass but he never does because it only enhances his lifting strength.
As for Ganon vs. Sephiroth, leave that for another thread.
The thread was made, it got locked for spite because Ganon won it so easily. 10/10.
And you still don't get it. They DO make Link stronger, that's canon fact. But a sword or hammer > a punch. Link is ALWAYS using them as long as he's wearing them. Swording Ganon is still better than punching him, go take a physics class. Ganon can survive castle-busting attacks without a scratch, you're trying to tell me Link is hurting something like that with the strength of a normal human being? No.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
He does react at supwer sonic speeds, he can't dodge pe-emptively, as I've explaiend a hundred times. If he dodges before the crack, when Majora cracks, he can just aim where Link moved to.No the whip isn't at super sonic speeds at all times, but it is during the only time that matters, during the attack. It's still super-sonic when Link reacts to it.
Link reacts on super-sonic levels. Now debate that point logicly, or stop repeating yourself.
Show me Link reacting SPECIFICALLY to a whip crack and not pre-emptively.
No, you have not explained everything. I will explain it in simple steps for you.
1. Whip gets started on it's course.
2. Whip reaches it's arcing point. (AT THIS POINT IF ANYONE WERE TO TRY AND CHANGE IT'S DIRECTION IT WOULD NOT WORK)
3. The whip gets jerked back.
4. The whip goes super-sonic and creates a small sonic boom.
5. The whip has reached it's end.
Now if you wanted to change direction, you would have to make it crack then restart the process otherwise it wouldn't work.
Wrong. Check the Link respect thread, I provided a video. 😐 You can change the direction a whip cracks relatively easily, especially if your whips are prehensile. Majora's whips were not only superior to any human whip, he had full control of them, they were not tools, they were literally and physicly a part of him.
Link reacted to the crack.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The thread was made, it got locked for spite because Ganon won it so easily. 10/10.And you still don't get it. They DO make Link stronger, that's canon fact. But a sword or hammer > a punch. Link is ALWAYS using them as long as he's wearing them. Swording Ganon is still better than punching him, go take a physics class. Ganon can survive castle-busting attacks without a scratch, you're trying to tell me Link is hurting something like that with the strength of a normal human being? No.
Ok, I found dialogue where Nabooru tells Link that the Silver Gauntlets can cause one to push and pull heavy things so, yeah it does more than increase lifting power (but we don't see any good examples for obvious reasons). This would grant Link the ability to use the Biggoron sword with one hand (like in Soul Calibur 2). Ok, you won that part but I don't see why Sephiroth would explode to a thrown shield.