Obama wants to charge disabled veterans for treatment at VA facilities.

Started by inimalist4 pages
Originally posted by KidRock
War in Afghanistan wasn't pointless..and again this isn't the point. They enlist to fight for our country, no matter the circumstances. They should be supported for serving our country and not have their back turned on by Obama.

to everyone who doesn't accept that america owns the world, what you are saying is essentially, "these people deserve to be taken care of for being the militant hand of the global empire."

and ya, war in afghanistan, maybe not pointless, but 100% useless and wrongheaded

Originally posted by KidRock
I know he is a filthy Scot and irrelevant to the world, but he's still a scumbag for not giving a shit about dieing soldiers that need help.

what are your thoughts about wounded members of Hamas or Hezbullah? Should they be supported by their government? do you care?

The Rwandan Hutus who were injured during their massacre of the Tutsi, do they deserve veteran rights?

Originally posted by KidRock
Who says I dont? That is not the point though, the point is Obama abandoning soldiers that are fighting for this country.

Then again if he supported them you would jump on the "SOCIALST OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111" bandwagon.

They made your life as cushy as it is

How so? No one wants me to go to a labor camp and no-one has declared war on the American Government. We seem to have declared war on a military tactic but to say that a group of extremists' views would affect my life, had we not invaded, is simply ridiculous.

Originally posted by inimalist
to everyone who doesn't accept that america owns the world, what you are saying is essentially, "these people deserve to be taken care of for being the militant hand of the global empire."

and ya, war in afghanistan, maybe not pointless, but 100% useless and wrongheaded

No, they deserve to be taken care of because they chose to defend their country. Whether you think the wars are useless or not is irrelevant. If you join the military you ARE fighting and supporting your country and you should get treated by them in exchange.

Originally posted by inimalist

The Rwandan Hutus who were injured during their massacre of the Tutsi, do they deserve veteran rights?

Anyone that joins the military for their country should be taken care of if they sustain wounds while fighting for that country.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
How so? No one wants me to go to a labor camp and no-one has declared war on the American Government. We seem to have declared war on a military tactic but to say that a group of extremists' views would affect my life, had we not invaded, is simply ridiculous.

And if we had no military? Do you think we would be completely safe and cushy in this country if we had 0 soldiers, pilots, airplanes, ships, bombs? Nobody would want to attack us, right?

Originally posted by KidRock
Anyone that joins the military for their country should be taken care of if they sustain wounds while fighting for that country.

fair enough, at least you are consistent with your beliefs.

Originally posted by KidRock

Ok, congratulations, you're a degenerate scumbag.

Why? Cause i don't give a shit that some American I don't know or give a shit about has to pay for their medical bills? I couldn't give a shit if you have to pay for your medical bills either or any other American for that matter. Doesn't make me a "degenerate scumbag". Just makes me not the kind of person who worries over people i'll never meet or give a shit about.

No, they deserve to be taken care of because they chose to defend their country. Whether you think the wars are useless or not is irrelevant. If you join the military you ARE fighting and supporting your country and you should get treated by them in exchange.

Evidently you have absolutely no clue of the reasons behind why people in the military fight. Because none ive ever met have ever said it's to do with their country.

Being a soldier isn't even the most dangerous job. You don't hear fishermen whining about not getting free medical care and their job is statistically far more dangerous than being a soldier. They arguably are doing more for their country and their fellow citizens than killing people at some half way around the world.

So kindly shut the **** up and stop being a whiney ***** because the fact is you don't give a shit about the vets either. You simply see this as another Obama beating stick and that makes you a lot worse than me because at least i'm not pretending to give a shit.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Alternatively you can move to the oldest democracy in the world - India.

Wait- you meant biggest, right?

As for this plan- I'd wait until there was something more than pure speculation before I started a critique. In the meanwhile, please keep it civil, folks.

Yeah, it was largest. Dunno where the oldest came from. Thats Iceland...Persia has some claim but Greeks would disagree, cos they gave it a name.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
Wow. all this talk of free healthcare by obama and he's charging disabled vets?

O and good job on adressing Kidrock's thread instead of bashing him for bringing up something that doesn't make your messiah look good.

WTF? I don't even like Obama all that much. Anyone who puts all their dreams and hopes into a politician is an idiot.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
Every time you type a word in on your computor that you own for the internet that you have the right to pay for and that word is english, thank one of those american vets, shithead. They made your life as cushy as it is and gave you the right to say "i couldn't give a shit" about their sacrifice.

Most hilarious post ever. Seriously. Ever.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
Every time you type a word in on your computor that you own for the internet that you have the right to pay for and that word is english, thank one of those american vets, shithead. They made your life as cushy as it is and gave you the right to say "i couldn't give a shit" about their sacrifice.

Yeah. English. I'm glad I have a decent grasp of it, unlike some people, apparently.

Still don't give a **** about American vets.

Originally posted by jaden101

Still don't give a **** about American vets.

That's fine, says a lot about your personality.

"Oh look a fellow human being dieing because his leg got blown off while fighting for his country..who gives a shit? I DONT GUYS! I DONT, LOOK AT ME!"

Your parents must be so proud of you.

Originally posted by KidRock
That's fine, says a lot about your personality.

"Oh look a fellow human being dieing because his leg got blown off while fighting for his country..who gives a shit? I DONT GUYS! I DONT, LOOK AT ME!"

Your parents must be so proud of you.

Are you telling me you care about Iraqi vets who died/are dying/are severely disabled fighting the occupier of their country?

Also, are you sorry for the veterans of Russio-Afghani war? Which vets are you sorry for, the Taliban or the Russians?

Originally posted by KidRock
That's fine, says a lot about your personality.

"Oh look a fellow human being dieing because his leg got blown off while fighting for his country..who gives a shit? I DONT GUYS! I DONT, LOOK AT ME!"

Your parents must be so proud of you.

Did you even bother to read my previous post?

Don't pretend you care about every vet that gets killed and injured whether they're American or another allied country. The fact is you don't. It's no different from me saying that i didn't give a shit when princess Diana was killed. Or that Jade Goody has cancer. I at least know who those people are or were. Some soldier who i've never met and never will. Why should i give a shit? I don't know them. I'll never know them. The fact that they have to pay for their medical bills makes no difference to my life or the lives of anyone i care about. So again i ask, why should i give a shit?

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
How so? No one wants me to go to a labor camp and no-one has declared war on the American Government. We seem to have declared war on a military tactic but to say that a group of extremists' views would affect my life, had we not invaded, is simply ridiculous.
i am talking about world war two mainly with that comment. that's what i think of when i hear disabled vets.

however i do think its hypocritical to continuously promise free healthcare and then charge money for those who sacrificed their limbs and put their lives at risk at our command.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
however i do think its hypocritical to continuously promise free healthcare and then charge money for those who sacrificed their limbs and put their lives at risk at our command.

who promised free health care?

Originally posted by KidRock
That's fine, says a lot about your personality.

"Oh look a fellow human being dieing because his leg got blown off while fighting for his country..who gives a shit? I DONT GUYS! I DONT, LOOK AT ME!"

Your parents must be so proud of you.

The hypocrisy runs deep.

Originally posted by inimalist
who promised free health care?
obama. i believe "socialized medecine" was one of his campaign promises.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
obama. i believe "socialized medecine" was one of his campaign promises.

ummmm

socialized medicine is very expensive

yes, but they charge other people to pay for people who can't afford treatment.

no, they charge everyone so that everyone can get care, but nice attempt