Originally posted by XanatosForever
[B]😬You mean that blue shock wave that traverses the sky of the planet? The one that looks nothing like blue ocean waves swarming and brown solid crust shuddering under a massive impact?Admittedly, I got a little snarky there, so I'll stop. My argument still stands, though, and I still believe the shaking camera was a simple cinematic effect. Or who knows, maybe the shaking camera was from a shock wave of Omega's defeat? Though that would have be one fast as hell wave
Considering that Omega was clearly shown being destroyed above the world's surface, I would estimate that, at best, the air temperature directly above Midgar reached astoundingly high degrees, which could have harmed the people below. Like you said, though, we can't really know since it's the end of the game.
This is where we're in agreement. Any of the Weapons are unbelievably powerful, and to take one down single-handedly definitely shows great power. Not power of planet-scale threat, but still great power nonetheless
Not unlike some of the major cities in the United States. Maybe our sky scrapers don't have as great a magnitude, but we're certainly visible from the black. So that's...not really all that impressive to me. 😬
Originally posted by Terryc250
Above? Watch the video again, Chaos ripped right THROUGH Omega, you can see Chaos flying through Omega as you see lifestream and him reaching the end of it at the ground. Camera's zooms out and it shows ripples sent down the planet because of the power.
Maybe I missed something. I'll watch it again to make sure, though I already viewed it at least three times. From what I've seen so far, nothing convinces me that Chaos displayed the planet quaking feat you insist on.
Originally posted by Terryc250
Omega Weapon IS a planet-scale threat, its sole purpose is the wipe out the entire planet, so that it all returns to the lifestream, then absorbs it all flying to a different planet.
I'll concede this because I don't have nearly as much experience with the FF7 universe.
Originally posted by Terryc250
Umm Midgar is far far faaar bigger then any city on Earth.
And yet some of our cities are still visible from on a space station and the like. Would you mind giving me the size of the city (how many miles across, population, etc.) so I can better debate this point? I feel at odds when I don't know exactly what I'm supposed to be arguing against.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. Do you pride yourself on bullshit?We clearly see Cloud and friends were perfectly fine, and they were at ground zero. And Omega was weakened when he was hit by hit, not to mention Ganon>Omega.
You can't deny that the power sent ripples down the entire planet, it's right infront of you.
And no Ganon is not > Omega weapon. What can Ganon do to even get passed his barrier? Omega weapon has the power to wipe out everything on the planet turning it into a baron wasteland, survive the vacuums of space. Just Omega stepping on him would be like a city ontop of him.
2. The Lifestream is energy, and we can clearly see it is full of energy when Vincent goes through it, and it is only when he hits its core as we plainly see that it explodes.
3. This is black granite.Looks pretty similar to what Link threw ey? No other rock I am aware of looks like what Link threw.
Oh, and the Golden Gauntlets are stated in the description to give the wielder the strength to lift a mountain I believe.
4. ?They can merge regions with the Twilight realm, which has that effect.
Have you ever played Twilight Princess? [/B]
ganon is > omega because the creator said that seph is the superior and that means Ganon> sephiroth(base on feats).... see how i use fanboy quotes against them.
ganon was shown merging dimensions and such that will make whatever sephiroth done look like a joke. and since seph is surperrior to omega and a person that ganon will cream there is no point in this thread.
overall GANON>>>>>> all of final fantasy 7
The only way Sephiorth is>Omega is because of the negative lifestream, obviously in a real battle without it, Sephiroth would likely end up destroyed, thing with the lifestream is that its super effective against the beings in FF, its likely that if used against beings not of FF, it would not be nearly as effecitve.
Until Terry educates himself on the opponents he wants to face, these debates are null and void. I don't feel like running around in circles all day with a person who will not watch simple videos to learn the low down on what is. I mean, we're sitting at a computer wasting time, might as well kill it. I did state time frames btw, the other videos that I did not means you must watch all of it. Except the last one, where Ganondorf just shows right off the bat of the match he can enclose things in twilight realm.
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Originally posted by Burning thoughtwell that's because the beings of ff VII are connected to the life stream so it makes since why its so effective on them and not beings from other universe.
The only way Sephiorth is>Omega is because of the negative lifestream, obviously in a real battle without it, Sephiroth would likely end up destroyed, thing with the lifestream is that its super effective against the beings in FF, its likely that if used against beings not of FF, it would not be nearly as effecitve.
Originally posted by Phanteros
well that's because the beings of ff VII are connected to the life stream so it makes since why its so effective on them and not beings from other universe.
Originally posted by Terryc2501. They were in Midgar when Omega flew up. Omega flew directly up from Midgar. That flash of light, which is all it was, engulfed the planet.
We don't see Cloud and friends being exactly where Chaos struck, they all viewed from a distanceYou can't deny that the power sent ripples down the entire planet, it's right infront of you.
And no Ganon is not > Omega weapon. What can Ganon do to even get passed his barrier? Omega weapon has the power to wipe out everything on the planet turning it into a baron wasteland, survive the vacuums of space. Just Omega stepping on him would be like a city ontop of him.
Lifestream is a SOURCE of energy, just as its a source of life, and magic. It doesn't explode, it never has, it's not flamable, it has no reason to explode. If it was an "explosion", Cloud and friends would be dead.
Once again that picture posted is a ZOOMED UP picture, viewing black granite at the same distance as the zelda picture they would look absolutely NOTHING like eachother
It has to land anyway, and unlike the people Zant used it on, Chaos wouldn't be standing there doing absolutely nothing, since well he can move faster then the eye can see.
How's about you stfu and prove that little light show was anything other than a lightshow?
By teleporting on the other side, or using the power he used to warp the entire Sacred Realm(a planet) maybe?
2. Oh so you admit it was just a light-show?
3. Then post your proof of this claim.
4. It affects an entire region or city in an instant. And the effect is instant. Vincent is not that fast.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. They were in Midgar when Omega flew up. Omega flew directly up from Midgar. That flash of light, which is all it was, engulfed the planet.How's about you stfu and prove that little light show was anything other than a lightshow?
By teleporting on the other side, or using the power he used to warp the entire Sacred Realm(a planet) maybe?
2. Oh so you admit it was just a light-show?
3. Then post your proof of this claim.
Now imagine that it was even further zoomed out as the picture of Link, and then imagine if the room was dark. Clearly they would look nothing alike. Far far not enough proof to claim Link lifted Black Granite.
Hell you can zoom up to many types of stones and find that pattern, its so common.
As for the actual Link picture, I googled some random LOW DENSITY stone called Asbestos, and it is FAR more similar then black granite
4. It affects an entire region or city in an instant. And the effect is instant. Vincent is not that fast. [/B]
Show me him instantly doing it on an entire village.
Originally posted by Voyeur
And I have a quote here from my official Nintendo Player Guide. (not licensed by, but official)
"Gold Gauntlets, which only lift giant granite pillars." -ONPGI hope that helps clear up and put an end to useless bickering of the strength feat proven many times over of what Link throws. As in Rock, As in volume, height, mass, and so on. I'm sorry, but with those items Link is very strong, 1000+ tons.
EDIT: I know you're going to ***** about the official guide quote so when I have time I'll try to get scans.
and once again Terry, that isn't the point of the feat of strength. it can be ANY TYPE OF ROCK the fact that the pillar is a certain volume, weight, mass, density. THOSE are the things that matter to the math, to even get those numbers.
Simple Jr Highschool Math. And this is about Ganondorf vs Vincent, not Link, so you're going off track and derailing from the subject.
And also running something into the ground, going in circles and so forth. Because you're having a hard time being shown how powerful Link is with those gauntlets. It's granite hon. Deal <3
I can't find a scan of the entire guide anywhere ._. Maybe Voy can scan his later, BUT, I did notice something, look at Terry's pic of the granite blocks.
Note the external texture/pattern looks ALOT like the granite pillar in OoT? In a dark room they'd be near identical, o: If the granite was a darker colour, like say, black granite... Heeeheee.
I'll keep looking for the scans, but I still want the Seph vs Ganon thread.
Ganon>FF7
No in a dark room you wouldnt even beable to see the texture/patterns.
Even looking from this distance everything just looks like specs/dots, zoomed even further out, and in a dark room you wouldn't make out any pattern at all.
And incorrect, Ganon is not > FF7.
Ganon never fought anyone near as powerful, fast as Chaos Vincent