Black Bolt vs Thor

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus23 pages
Originally posted by h1a8
Only an idiot would think that Thor can create a barrier before BB can scream. For that is the dumbest sht alive.

I do go overboard with the Thor fanboyism but that tends to happen when I argue with idiots like you. I know you aren’t going to be logical so why should I even bother to? The difference between me and you is that I know when I'm spouting stupidity, and I do it mockingly. At least in my current incarnation.

Anyways, this shit is getting tedious. Your not nearly as fun to debate with as the Thanos camp.

Let’s say my argument is that Thor will set up a barrier or some sort of defense just before Black Bolt’s scream can take him out (You seem to be adamant about this.)

A: We have established that Thor can block light speed attacks from around 10 feet as you yourself have admitted:

Originally posted by h1a8
I accept that Thor can block a lightspeed attack from greater than 10ft away (not closer though).

Here Thor is able to move and block a blast from the Cosmic Control Rod from close range and as pointed out to you, none of that “he anticipated the attack” bullshit will fly.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus7.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus8.jpg

Not the first time Thor's reacted to an inanimate object.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ReactsSplitSecond.jpg

B: We have established that Thor will react and move before Black Bolt as you have admitted in the very post I replied to you.

C: According to you, attacks like Superman’s heat vision are more or less light speed.

Originally posted by h1a8
The only beams that are proven to move at the speed of light is light (such as lasers or the electromagnetic waves) or beams that traveled a certain distance at time time it would take light itself (Superman's HV).

Well, Thor has reacted fast enough to create a barrier to a similar attack at point blank range. Count Nefaria’s heat/laser vision.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsCountNefaria4.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsCountNefaria5.jpg

One more time so it sinks in.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsOdin7.jpg

Thor can create vortexes etc. in moments.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/Mjolnir95.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mjolnir141.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsGiants10.jpg

He has used whirlwinds/vortexes to take out Quicksilver before. Who was zooming around at close range.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mjolnir160.jpg

Whether this was during his upgrade era, I'm not sure.

If this is not enough for you, surely you know that Mjolnir can move at even the speed of light on it's own. Surely sufficient enough to create these barriers. You've admitted nearly as much or something close to it in this very reply:

Originally posted by h1a8
Not instantly as I proved. Of course the hammer can do it on its own. Thor can't do it no other way.

As shown, Mjolnir can create a barrier in moments:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DeflectsOdinInfinityAttack.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/CreatesVortexHuman.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsGrowingMan5.jpg

Thor can will Mjolnir to do what he wishes right out of his hand:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer18.jpg

Combine the two tactics...

D: From what I’ve seen, although it does have more than a sonic aspect –the electron aspect for some stupid reason is being ignored by a lot of writers currently- Black Bolt’s voice seems to travel the speed of sound more or less (Black Bolt has even used his powers in sound based ways such as a giant megaphone etc.)

Quicksilver has even managed to temporarily outrun Black Bolt’s scream and he was not amped at that time as far as I know:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/die1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/die2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/die3.jpg

E: According to the board rules, the combatants start at a distance of .5km or 1600feet away from each other.

Let’s recap shall we?

A) Thor has light speed reflexes that can block attacks from a distance of at least 10 feet.
B) Thor can and will react/move before Black Bolt.
C) Thor can and has made barriers to block attacks that are similar to what you deem light speed attacks.
D) Black Bolt’s voice seems to move at the speed of sound.
E) The board rules indicate that they start at a distance of .5km or 1600 feet.

In conclusion? Thor creates some sort of barrier before Black Bolt's voice takes him out.

In reflection, I was much too lenient in this argument. Bah, whatever.

I'm interested to see what math you come up with to prove me wrong.

The first number in Pi is a 3.

What now *****?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I do go overboard with the Thor fanboyism but that tends to happen when I argue with idiots like you. I know you aren’t going to be logical so why should I even bother to? The difference between me and you is that I know when I'm spouting stupidity, and I do it mockingly. At least in my current incarnation.

Anyways, this shit is getting tedious. Your not nearly as fun to debate with as the Thanos camp.

Let’s say my argument is that Thor will set up a barrier or some sort of defense just before Black Bolt’s scream can take him out (You seem to be adamant about this.)

[b]A: We have established that Thor can block light speed attacks from around 10 feet as you yourself have admitted:

Here Thor is able to move and block a blast from the Cosmic Control Rod from close range and as pointed out to you, none of that “he anticipated the attack” bullshit will fly.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus7.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus8.jpg

Not the first time Thor's reacted to an inanimate object.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ReactsSplitSecond.jpg

B: We have established that Thor will react and move before Black Bolt as you have admitted in the very post I replied to you.

C: According to you, attacks like Superman’s heat vision are more or less light speed.

Well, Thor has reacted fast enough to create a barrier to a similar attack at point blank range. Count Nefaria’s heat/laser vision.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsCountNefaria4.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsCountNefaria5.jpg

One more time so it sinks in.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsOdin7.jpg

Thor can create vortexes etc. in moments.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/Mjolnir95.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mjolnir141.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsGiants10.jpg

He has used whirlwinds/vortexes to take out Quicksilver before. Who was zooming around at close range.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mjolnir160.jpg

Whether this was during his upgrade era, I'm not sure.

If this is not enough for you, surely you know that Mjolnir can move at even the speed of light on it's own. Surely sufficient enough to create these barriers. You've admitted nearly as much or something close to it in this very reply:

As shown, Mjolnir can create a barrier in moments:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DeflectsOdinInfinityAttack.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/CreatesVortexHuman.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsGrowingMan5.jpg

Thor can will Mjolnir to do what he wishes right out of his hand:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer18.jpg

Combine the two tactics...

D: From what I’ve seen, although it does have more than a sonic aspect –the electron aspect for some stupid reason is being ignored by a lot of writers currently- Black Bolt’s voice seems to travel the speed of sound more or less (Black Bolt has even used his powers in sound based ways such as a giant megaphone etc.)

Quicksilver has even managed to temporarily outrun Black Bolt’s scream and he was not amped at that time as far as I know:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/die1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/die2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/die3.jpg

E: According to the board rules, the combatants start at a distance of .5km or 1600feet away from each other.

Let’s recap shall we?

A) Thor has light speed reflexes that can block attacks from a distance of at least 10 feet.
B) Thor can and will react/move before Black Bolt.
C) Thor can and has made barriers to block attacks that are similar to what you deem light speed attacks.
D) Black Bolt’s voice seems to move at the speed of sound.
E) The board rules indicate that they start at a distance of .5km or 1600 feet.

In conclusion? Thor creates some sort of barrier before Black Bolt's voice takes him out.

In reflection, I was much too lenient in this argument. Bah, whatever.

I'm interested to see what math you come up with to prove me wrong. [/B]

Great post 👆

I'm interested to see what math you come up with to prove me wrong. [/B]

You can't Block a scream 😛

Unless Thor wears earmuffs 😈

Originally posted by amnesia
So Thor and black bolt have fought in comics?

Yea they got into a melee fight and Thor found out if he breaks Black Bolts antenna that it weakens all of his power.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Yea they got into a melee fight and Thor found out if he breaks Black Bolts antenna that it weakens all of his power.

What? The tuning fork is the source of his physical powers?

Originally posted by amnesia
What? The tuning fork is the source of his physical powers?

It regulates his amping and stuff

Originally posted by jalek moye
It regulates his amping and stuff

Oh, OK 🙂

Originally posted by Nihilist
Vulcan didn't have Darwins powers when they fought, so you are wrong as usual.
Yes he did.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I do go overboard with the Thor fanboyism but that tends to happen when I argue with idiots like you. I know you aren’t going to be logical so why should I even bother to? The difference between me and you is that I know when I'm spouting stupidity, and I do it mockingly. At least in my current incarnation.

Anyways, this shit is getting tedious. Your not nearly as fun to debate with as the Thanos camp.

Let’s say my argument is that Thor will set up a barrier or some sort of defense just before Black Bolt’s scream can take him out (You seem to be adamant about this.)

[b]A: We have established that Thor can block light speed attacks from around 10 feet as you yourself have admitted:

Here Thor is able to move and block a blast from the Cosmic Control Rod from close range and as pointed out to you, none of that “he anticipated the attack” bullshit will fly.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus7.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAnnihilus8.jpg

Not the first time Thor's reacted to an inanimate object.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ReactsSplitSecond.jpg

B: We have established that Thor will react and move before Black Bolt as you have admitted in the very post I replied to you.

C: According to you, attacks like Superman’s heat vision are more or less light speed.

Well, Thor has reacted fast enough to create a barrier to a similar attack at point blank range. Count Nefaria’s heat/laser vision.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsCountNefaria4.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsCountNefaria5.jpg

One more time so it sinks in.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsOdin7.jpg

Thor can create vortexes etc. in moments.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/Mjolnir95.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mjolnir141.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsGiants10.jpg

He has used whirlwinds/vortexes to take out Quicksilver before. Who was zooming around at close range.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mjolnir160.jpg

Whether this was during his upgrade era, I'm not sure.

If this is not enough for you, surely you know that Mjolnir can move at even the speed of light on it's own. Surely sufficient enough to create these barriers. You've admitted nearly as much or something close to it in this very reply:

As shown, Mjolnir can create a barrier in moments:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DeflectsOdinInfinityAttack.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/CreatesVortexHuman.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsGrowingMan5.jpg

Thor can will Mjolnir to do what he wishes right out of his hand:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer18.jpg

Combine the two tactics...

D: From what I’ve seen, although it does have more than a sonic aspect –the electron aspect for some stupid reason is being ignored by a lot of writers currently- Black Bolt’s voice seems to travel the speed of sound more or less (Black Bolt has even used his powers in sound based ways such as a giant megaphone etc.)

Quicksilver has even managed to temporarily outrun Black Bolt’s scream and he was not amped at that time as far as I know:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/die1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/die2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/die3.jpg

E: According to the board rules, the combatants start at a distance of .5km or 1600feet away from each other.

Let’s recap shall we?

A) Thor has light speed reflexes that can block attacks from a distance of at least 10 feet.
B) Thor can and will react/move before Black Bolt.
C) Thor can and has made barriers to block attacks that are similar to what you deem light speed attacks.
D) Black Bolt’s voice seems to move at the speed of sound.
E) The board rules indicate that they start at a distance of .5km or 1600 feet.

In conclusion? Thor creates some sort of barrier before Black Bolt's voice takes him out.

In reflection, I was much too lenient in this argument. Bah, whatever.

I'm interested to see what math you come up with to prove me wrong. [/B]

Very good Rage. I now see you as a fine debater. I appreciated that highly. Thank you!

Thor wins. I concede.

i think thor

Originally posted by the Darkone
BB scream is not going to stop Thor who's durability is well above BB, Thor can absorb BB scream, or smack him on his attena again and start to beat the living sh** out of him. Thor in normal state of mind beat enraged BB, a bloodlusted Thor would fubar BB. As much I like and respect BB he is not going beat Thor, Thor not holding back would knock BB out of earths solar system.
And BB not holding back would kill thor.If BB can't use his voice thor wins easily but since he can he can do a one-shot KO

you got a point there

Originally posted by h1a8
huh? Thor would almost die if BB just whispered. How does Thor's durability being better the BB's have anything to do with him taking a scream? Your logic sucks! Mjolnir can't absorb a scream. Thor is toast right after the bell sounds.
No.Thor is easily tanking a scream.But a second or two of screaming will kill him.
Originally posted by the Darkone
Your logic is sh**, your whole reality is sh**. Thor has fought BB twice and the first time he took BB scream and wasn't fazed, I suggest you read some cmics, because your speculations is jus t as bas as the New health Care Bill.

YOu really don't know Thor do you? Thor can can absorbed all the power of BB and leave him lifeless if he so choses. Thor has done that before, before you speak on something you have no clue educate yourrself. Because logic is just as bad and full of sh** as the US senators.

Thor never took BB's scream.Show scans.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Based off what BB victories?
Pretty much almost all of them.BB has a record of not losing.
Originally posted by the Darkone
I dont have to show you sh**, you can get damn comic if you can afford it and who the f**k are you to demand pic, you are nothing but a troll. No one respects you or cares for bs logic, get some damn comics and read them with understanding instead of looking at the pictures.

Amazing Adventures 8, now stfu.

Thats not nice.But seriously if you can post canon/non PIS scan of thor tanking BB's scream I will concede

Bolt puts up a fight but loses

Originally posted by jalek moye
Yea they got into a melee fight and Thor found out if he breaks Black Bolts antenna that it weakens all of his power.
I see that as PIS because it was under very specific conditions.He was mind-controlled,he was currently amping,and it has never happened before or again.I just see it as having to be too specific.

Well no else has ever really tried, but there have been other instances of his antenna breaking and effecting him negatively.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Well no else has ever really tried, but there have been other instances of his antenna breaking and effecting him negatively.
Scans?

the other times or the thor one?

Originally posted by jalek moye
the other times or the thor one?
Others please.