Black Bolt vs Thor

Started by Omega Vision23 pages

Originally posted by Starscream M
I know you're being sarcastic, but I am flexible and not biased...I have admitted being wrong in the past

I'm sure you have. Its just the only times I've ever seen you owning up is when a mod confronts you.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'm sure you have. Its just the only times I've ever seen you owning up is when a mod confronts you.
why would a mod confront me regarding my opinon?!

Originally posted by Starscream M
KMC posters may be knowledgeable, but they are very biased and close-minded
you set yourself up

Finally got around to replying to Black Bolt's shit.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No BB can't take the godblast and live but thor can't take a scream and live.

😂 BB's higher end voice would destroy thor.

And how does thor overcome BB's shields?And hes fast too so can can fly and evade the godblast.

1) I'm pretty sure I was under the assumption Thor had a portion of the Odin Force in this thread.

2) Assuming Black Bolt's scream lives up to the hype -planetary destruction- Thor's still tanked worse.

I've never seen Black Bolt create energy shields powerful enough to make me think it can protect him from Thor if he wanted to break through them.

As seen against Galactus it isn't just a narrow beam of energy all the time. It engulfed Galactus in bludgeoning waves of force in the space of an astro second or something similar. It'd be harder to dodge than most people assume it would be if Thor willed it apparently.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
How does that have anything to due with hitting BB?

You need to stop replying to posts that are over a year old. I'm tired of looking back through the thread and trying to remember my point or what was going through me head.

From what I read, I'm assuming I thought Brucy was arguing that Black Bolt's speed would prevent Thor from creating a God Blast or something similar.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Black bolt could use his shields so the storm wouldn't hit him.Even a savage hulk has had to pound away at it for a while to break. 😂

Scans of Black Bolt's energy shields showing the ability to contain the level of power Thor can create with his storms and lightning.

😬 Are you referring to this scene?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/hukk8.jpg

Originally posted by Black bolt z
So thor can god blast in the time it takes BB to open his mouth?

Once again, you need to stop replying to posts over a year old. From what I understand my stance was that either Thor can create a vortex around him before Black Bolt screams, eliminating the drawback of powering up the God Blast, or doing a God Blast similar to the one used against Juggernaut which did not apparently require a vast time to power up from the get go. It was basically speech, and then God Blast. Other versions of the God Blast such as the one against the Celestials required too much time. It'd be silly to assume he could do it before Black Bolt speaks.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Its plausible but not likely.

Its probably when hes talking that hes gathering the power to use the godblast.

Thor isn't using the GB before BB speaks.It takes mabye a second at most to say something.

Thor's stopped the theatrics and has gotten serious in the past.

Speculation. Both scenes were by the same writer. DeFalco would have more than likely made it clear.

I agree. At best, the Juggernaut level God Blast which did not require any agonizing power ups would reach Black Bolt before his scream reached Thor.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
😂

Thor has no chance of taking a scream.

I'd guess at higher end levels Black Bolt's voice is capable of planetary scale destruction. Thor's tanked worse.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
And what exactly is the null bomb?Post scans.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/NullBombAbsorb.jpg

It was a weapon powerful enough to destroy an entire Galaxy.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Post thors best non PIS durability feat.

Lol. Best non P.I.S. feats? What does that mean exactly? Feats that you deem valid or not?

If you don't know Thor's higher end feats by now then either check out ODG's respect thread here, or join HC and check out my respect thread on there.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Wouldn't the god blast kill BB?I won't deny that a direct hit will kill him.But a scream will kill thor too.

Yes it would. Why will it? Based on what showings did you come to the conclusion that it will kill Thor? Thor's tanked way too many attacks of incredible power throughout his history for you to come to this conclusion without more evidence.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
A single hammer throw isn't KOing BB.Its gonna hurt him but not KO him.

Once again, you need to stop replying to old posts. Based on the post you replied to, I'm assuming I was referring to an Odin Force empowered throw, which would mean it would most definitely will knock out Black Bolt.

And I could make a case based on higher end feats that a a single hammer throw can take down Black Bolt. Especially a charged hammer throw. Defending said stance would be even harder if I tried to low ball Black Bolt.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Didn't the godblast not even faze juggarnaut?

He wasn't hurt. Your point?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Or on the forums in class?

What?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
That third scan isn't a light speed blast.When pheniox fires it thor is behind someone and when it reaches them he is in front.Not even near light speed.

Lol. Thor wasn't behind anybody. That image was due to the illusion that Thor was the Juggernaut to Excalibur.

Why isn't it near light speed attack pray tell?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Like?I refuse to believe thor can take his scream and still be conscious or he will be dead.

Like attacks from Thanos, Zeus, Odin, Celestials, all of Mjolnir's power reversed through him, attacks from the Enchanters etc.

But why? What showings have lead you to this apparently non debatable -in your mind- conclusion?

Black Bolt's only shouted/screamed three times off the top of my head. The first time was when he fought the Absorbing Man. Dazzler absorbed the power of his voice, and using that power, she was able to mess with Creel's current form and he exploded or something similar. The second instance was against Vulcan. In the third scene I'm thinking off, Black Bolt sings to defeat one of Magneto's mutates. There's also that instance when he along with the X-men fought Apocalypse and some argue he screamed.

None of those scenes lead me to believe that a scream is not something a high end character such as Thor, Superman or Silver Surfer cannot tank.

I've read almost all of Black Bolt's appearances. The only scene I've seen that even begins to suggest that he can take out any of the above characters with his voice on a good day, is the scene where he speaks into Reed Richard's optimizer and overloads Doctor Doom with the Watcher's power. And as we all know, the Watcher's fluctuate. There was that Doom/Galactus scene but it's been a while. Anyways, I digress, Thor has the capabilities to defend himself from a scream. He doesn't have to tank it unless he wants to.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Well his voice travels at the speed of sound...if hes close enough no.Even then the max I see him absorbing is a whisper.

Lulz.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
OK

I think he does.

Whatever you say.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
well he was mind-controlled,amping,and that was a one time thing.I don't agree with one time feats.

How does mind control change the validity of the tactic? If you actually read Black Bolt's appearances -which I do- you'll see that he amps in battles. A lot. Heh. Then you don't agree with some of Black Bolt's best feats.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
IIRC he can amp himself by drawing power from the electrons in the air.Thus it wasn't his own energy.

His body harnesses and stores electrons from the electric field if I recall the explanation correctly. He then uses that energy to amp himself. Not too different from Norrin and the Power Cosmic so the point stands.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I'd say something comparable to a punch from the hulk(and more-so because his hand is smaller then hulks so its concentrated)could break a bone or two...

😐

If you don't know anything about Thor or don't want to debate seriously, then don't waste my time. Thor has withstood entire onslaughts from the Hulk and I can't recall a bone ever being broken. The only bones ever broken in a battle between the two were the Hulk's bones.

These are the three instances I recall Black Bolt using the Master Blow.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/fkarn10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/ikaris2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/reek14.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/reek15.jpg
Thanks to Thorion

None of these instances suggest that the Master Blow would do even serious harm to Thor.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Yes a whisper has shattered cities.Read the first time BB uses his voice when he breaks the dome incasing the great refugee.😂 that at best it can destroy cities.Black bolt has screamed into the ground and it as causing volcanoes on the other side of the planet to explode.Is that life bomb the scan where thor dies?...

I've never seen it do that. I don't recall cities destroyed in that instance. Scans please. I don't want to break down Black Bolt's feats but you should know that his energy had been building up at that time.

Yes.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Thats your opinion.On both their best day thor 5.5/10.On their worst day BB 5.5/10.

Nah.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
So why doesn't thor use that tactic all the time?Only feat i've seen of thors field is him dying because of it...and even if he fires it BB dodges it.He can fly you know?

A barrier? He used that tactic a lot.

He didn't die because of the vortex. He died because he contained the life bomb and it exploded while Thor was inside. he did not have any time to escape.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
What can thor give besides his godblast that would do more then a scream?Your really downplaying BB and up playing thor.

The energy reserves and attacks of Mjolnir outstrip anything I've ever seen from Black Bolt outside of a comment from Doom.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Whats so funny?How much thor will die form it?

Yea, I'm sure.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Not really. So does black bolt.He has caught a sniper bullet easy after it was fired.

😬

You mean this instance?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/catchmissile.jpg

He catches a missile from what I can tell and if you think that scene allows him to rival Thor's best, I disagree.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No thats you.

Haha yea. I'm sure. I even know more about Black Bolt than you do apparently.

Joke's on you, Black Bolt already won.