Nimrod vs Doomsday (DOS)

Started by leonidas3 pages
Originally posted by Philosophía
Too bad most people have the 'he was downed by DoS Superman' in mind and generally underestimate him.

QFT 🙂

Originally posted by Raoul
we're referring to dd's little trip to oa...

Oh. Sure. Awesome showing for DD there. But I mean, you basically had a Sherman tank with the most powerful weapon in the universe against about a thousand mini coopers with the most powerful weapons in the universe. Almost not a fair fight. 😛

And the Guardian in that issue, going all out, only released as much power as 'a dozen hurricanes.' 😂

Originally posted by leonidas
on a seperate note, re: max not being in supes league--maybe not superman HIMSELF, but in his league? absolutely. she's basically has diana's warrior mindset, coupled with uber tp and a lot of magneto. she was CERTAINLY diana-level, and diana too, while not superman, is close enough in overall class for the differnece to be negligible.

Meh...there was a thread around here months ago claiming Superman was ten times stronger than Diana. While I don't subscribe to that logic, I do think its much close to him being twice as strong as her, rather than her being his equal.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Oh. Sure. Awesome showing for DD there. But I mean, you basically had a Sherman tank with the most powerful weapon in the universe against about a thousand mini coopers with the most powerful weapons in the universe. Almost not a fair fight. 😛

And the Guardian in that issue, going all out, only released as much power as 'a dozen hurricanes.' 😂

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Originally posted by Enyalus
Meh...there was a thread around here months ago claiming Superman was ten times stronger than Diana. While I don't subscribe to that logic, I do think its much close to him being twice as strong as her, rather than her being his equal.

i think he's a fair bit stronger, yeah. not ten times as strong, but definitely a notch above her...

Originally posted by leonidas
philo said it right--i'm not claiming he was at--or really even all that close to--that level.
Just making sure. 😛

Originally posted by Enyalus
Oh. Sure. Awesome showing for DD there. But I mean, you basically had a Sherman tank with the most powerful weapon in the universe against about a thousand mini coopers with the most powerful weapons in the universe. Almost not a fair fight. 😛

And the Guardian in that issue, going all out, only released as much power as 'a dozen hurricanes.' 😂

Meh...there was a thread around here months ago claiming Superman was ten times stronger than Diana. While I don't subscribe to that logic, I do think its much close to him being twice as strong as her, rather than her being his equal.

anybody got any scans?

Originally posted by Enyalus

Meh...there was a thread around here months ago claiming Superman was ten times stronger than Diana. While I don't subscribe to that logic, I do think its much close to him being twice as strong as her, rather than her being his equal.

this is off-thread, but i didn't say she was his equal, nor did i say she would beat him. out of 10 she would take a couple imo though, and you don't need to be equal to be considered in someone's class. least not how i personally view it.

trying to quantify is pretty impossible. is kal twice or 10x as strong as cap marvel then? diana and billy have been shown to be pretty much equals, as have kal and CM.

he's stronger than both, but both are strong enough to give him a lot of problems. i'd put max in that class as well.

meh. my point was dos dd's showing--looking at all involved--was STILL pretty damn impressive. more impressive than anything nimrod has done. hence the reason i think he wins this convincingly.

good discussion though. 🙂

Originally posted by Raoul
😂

i think he's a fair bit stronger, yeah. not ten times as strong, but definitely a notch above her...

When it comes to battles, most characters only equal Superman if he's holding back (even subconsciously) and they are going all out.

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Originally posted by Philosophía
I don't think anyone's contesting the fact that Doomsday wasn't at the level he was displayed in the Year One issue. At least I hope not. ermm

Anyhow, his durability was pretty insane, and when I'm saying this I'm specifically reffering to the instance of him tanking the combined assault of Guy, Superman and the others with practically no effect. Too bad most people have the 'he was downed by DoS Superman' in mind and generally underestimate him.

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Originally posted by Avlon
When it comes to battles, most characters only equal Superman if he's holding back (even subconsciously) and they are going all out.

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well, thats true of many characters, i agree...

Originally posted by Galan007
Nimrod ftw.

imo, a character who can slap around classic Juggernaut like a weak feeb, would own DoS DD just as easily.


Co-signed. The biggest guns DD took on in that arc were Supes and Maxima, and they were ko'd by an exploding gas station something like an issue later. That's undoubtedly a low showing for them of course, but it shows that they weren't really portrayed as being all that powerful during the arc.