Originally posted by Kero_Co
Wow, that's a verbal bitchslap to introverts everywhere.
Umm, how? Do you know what '!=' means? It stands for "does not equal".
Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Actually, all 3 of those equate to introversion 😬
No, they don't. Someone can be introverted and have one (or two, or all) of those traits, but they do not automatically equate to being introverted. Someone can be an extrovert with those same traits, as well.
Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Favorite Game:
Best Story:
Best Music:
Best Hero:
Best Heroine:
Best Villain:
Best Gameplay:Simple enough categories. I'm curious to see some of the answers.
Favorite Game: VII
Best Story: VII
Best Music: VII in general (VIII has plenty of highs, but some awful lows)
Best Hero: Barrett/Vivi
Best Heroine: Tifa, i guess. Very few others really impressed me.
Best Villain: Sephiroth
Best Gameplay: VII/XII
Originally posted by Ushgarak
[B]I am surprised how clueless people are about introversion. Being a loner is not the same thing, and that's a doubtful label to it Batman with anyway seeing that in public consciousness he is generally associated with being with someone else.
Batman is an introvert. Bruce Wayne isn't. The difference? The Bruce Wayne thing is an act. It isn't who he is. The guy in the cape and cowl is who he is. to the people that know him (and remember, not many people know batman) he is considered what we would define as an introvert. this includes alfred, dick grayson and superman.
So don't go labelling every angst-character an introvert. Meanwhile, as I say, genuine introverts are rubbish action heroes.
i disagree. characters being introverted has been a stable of the superhero genre since the 60s. and i'm not talking about random team member #4 or anything, i'm talking about central characters. cyclops for example, from the x-men. a nice guy? no. a well liked guy? no. a confident guy? no. he actually fills all the criteria of an introvert.
as an action hero, though? he kicks. ass.
anyways, as far as FF goes, Squall might not have been the most likeable of characters, but he was more of a hero than Tidus, imo. Squall did plenty of action oriented stuff, and even though Rinoa REALLY wasn't worth the trouble, he caused hell just to get her back. also, maybe he didn't develop THAT much, and that's fine, imo. I don't see why he has to shift that dramatically. he started off as a bit of an outcast, and became a leader.
is he a great character? no. of course not. but is he a hero? damn straight.
and quistis? seriously? why on earth...
Introversion:
[quote]http://www.usd.edu/~ssanto/extravert.html
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[*]Talk less and reflect more before acting
[*]Like to be quiet
[*]Better at reflective problem solving and tasks involving long-term memory
[*]Like to work independently or with one or two other people
[*]Prefer slower, more accurate approach
[*]May have trouble establishing rapport with others
[*]Oriented toward inner world of ideas and feelings
[*]Prefer low sensory input and low levels of activity
[*]Excel at focusing attention for long periods of time in situations if there are no distractions
[*]Have a lot going on in their inner world
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http://www.mypersonality.info/personality-types/extraverted-introverted/
http://psychology.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_introvert[/quote]
All of these descriptions could be applied to Batman:
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[*]Batman is prep-time: in versus matches Batman "with prep" is considered pretty much unbeatable (from what little I've seen online)
[*]Batman tends to have a plan: in TDK he carefully and methodically searches for the Joker with a system
[*]Batman is not particularly vocal (in universe)
[*]Batman keeps to the shadows and is not the center of attention. While Bruce Wayne may hold that place, the consensus (that was not challenged by the dissenting voices even in this thread) is that Batman is the actual personality while Wayne is a front, an act
[*]Batman's motivations (vengeance) are focused within himself- the urge to find revenge and the conflict between that need and the need for justice beyond revenge are definitely 'within [batman's] own world'.
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He seems to fit the criteria- omniscient narration does not nullify his behavior, no matter how much is revealed to the reader.