Kratos & Dante vs Sephiroth & Cloud

Originally posted by Frikcha
this is a toughie... i'll do ranks
speed/agility: 1.dante 2. sephiroth 3. cloud 4. kratos

strength: 1.cloud 2.kratos/dante 3. sephiroth

defense: 1.dante/kratos 2. cloud 3. sephiroth

skill: 1.dante/sephiroth 2. cloud 3. kratos

determination: 1.cloud 2. kratos 3. dante 4. sephiroth

heres who would beat one another-
cloud would beat sephiroth
sephiroth would beat kratos
kratos would tie with cloud
dante would beat cloud and kratos and tie with sephiroth.

so i personally think dante and kratos would win only becuase of dante. but it'd probably be a tie...
i did this hurridly so it's half-assed

How the **** does Cloud rank above Dante or Kratos in strength, but Sephiroth below? Given Sephiroth was capable of bitchslapping Cloud and was stronger than him in AC

And no, that's been done to death across the internets, Dante doesn't have the strength feats to remotely stack up to Kratos there

Speed, yeah already told you about how Kratos can deflect lightning, and he's far superior to Athena was can run from the top of Olympus to the bottom or something.

DT forms are unquantifiable and invincibility is a massive NLF

Dante's never been hit by a being remotely as strong as Kratos nor by a weapon more powerful than the DMCverse combined, so his regen is irrelevant

Wouldn't say unquantifiable to that degree.

But yeah Cloud be stronger than both Dante and Kratos, and above his superior, Seph too..

Originally posted by BloodRain
Wouldn't say unquantifiable to that degree.

But yeah Cloud be stronger than both Dante and Kratos, and above his superior, Seph too..

i think cloud is stronger because of his effortless use of the buster sword like it's nothing. also his materia and mako powers make him insanely powerful. dante is definitely the toughest though because he has a healing factor and could easily dispatch any of the three with ease. also i don't realise if you guys have read the topic but we aren't debating who's the best.

Kratos is the strongest, most durable, and most determined young man here.

Originally posted by Frikcha
i think cloud is stronger because of his effortless use of the buster sword like it's nothing. also his materia and mako powers make him insanely powerful. dante is definitely the toughest though because he has a healing factor and could easily dispatch any of the three with ease. also i don't realise if you guys have read the topic but we aren't debating who's the best.

Now you're just proving you've never even played God of War, because not only does Kratos do more than that physically on a casual level, but he more than enough wields weapons just as large with just as much efficiency as the Buster Sword, and that's literally the farthest Cloud's strength is ever shown to get in that regard.

Originally posted by Frikcha
i think cloud is stronger because of his effortless use of the buster sword like it's nothing. also his materia and mako powers make him insanely powerful. dante is definitely the toughest though because he has a healing factor and could easily dispatch any of the three with ease. also i don't realise if you guys have read the topic but we aren't debating who's the best.

Far from his best strength feat actually

This thread deserves more. Necro'ing.

FF7 is only in the continent to mutlcontinent range.

Not gonna be enough.

Why wouldn't that be enough?

Well, it'd blow DMC out of the water at least

Kratos can take multicontinental force now?

Well not too sure about that, though you may be able to get a fairly interesting result out of him holding up the planet's crust or w/e

Maybe

Kratos didn't hold up the crust.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
FF7 is only in the continent to mutlcontinent range.

Not gonna be enough.

Why not? It's not like their opposition is that high; let alone higher. Though, I may be forgetting some shit about all of them.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Well not too sure about that, though you may be able to get a fairly interesting result out of him holding up the planet's crust or w/e

Maybe

Kratos never held up the Earth. He fought Hercules, who was the one who did it.

Hercules didn't hold up the crust either.

He held up what Atlas held up, which in GoW-verse, is the Earth.

When did this happen? Novels?

His 12 Labours are referenced in the game.

The 11th labour is to collect the apples. He didn't need Atlas for it like Herc in myth did. Besides, Atlas couldn't have stopped his duties to go pick apples if he wanted to.