Originally posted by dadudemon
So, Kenshiro can fly? 😖hifty:
No but he can teleport. I don't think you understand the move though. Once Kenshiro does that move Goku can't move. He can't IT after failing the hit. THe aura he emits freezes your body. Like I said thats just one way. Ken has a nice arsenal of moves and knows many Nanto Seiken styles.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
No but he can teleport. I don't think you understand the move though. Once Kenshiro does that move Goku can't move. He can't IT after failing the hit. THe aura he emits freezes your body. Like I said thats just one way. Ken has a nice arsenal of moves and knows many Nanto Seiken styles.
You realize that Kid Goku was tanking bullets? And then he went and became stronger than Roshi, who obliterated the Moon in one shot. And then he tanked an island busting attack from Piccolo with no damage whatsoever. And then he went through King Kai's training and got at least a 20 fold increase in power. And then he went through 100 x gravity training and got jacked up at least 10 fold again? And then he got a massive near-death recovery and jacked up his power by at least 300 fold? And then got a 50 fold super saiyan multiplier? And this is all by the Frieza Saga. By the time GT rolls around, the guy is at least billions of times stronger.
The guy is so strong that at SSJ3 his ki is felt across the Galaxy. He powers up and the planet shakes... on a daily basis. He pulls earthquakes out of his ass just by screaming.
He's faster than Gotenks, a guy who flew around the planet approximately 8 times in one panel.
And you think there's anything that Kenshiro can do to beat Goku? Like is there really anything that's going to stop Goku from speedblitzing Ken in one picosecond?
Christ, Kenshiro is one of my favorite characters. So I don't appreciate him being put up against a tank like Goku.
Originally posted by Tyrant
You realize that Kid Goku was tanking bullets? And then he went and became stronger than Roshi, who obliterated the Moon in one shot. And then he tanked an island busting attack from Piccolo with no damage whatsoever. And then he went through King Kai's training and got at least a 20 fold increase in power. And then he went through 100 x gravity training and got jacked up at least 10 fold again? And then he got a massive near-death recovery and jacked up his power by at least 300 fold? And then got a 50 fold super saiyan multiplier? And this is all by the Frieza Saga. By the time GT rolls around, the guy is at least billions of times stronger.The guy is so strong that at SSJ3 his ki is felt across the Galaxy. He powers up and the planet shakes... on a daily basis. He pulls earthquakes out of his ass just by screaming.
He's faster than Gotenks, a guy who flew around the planet approximately 8 times in one panel.
And you think there's anything that Kenshiro can do to beat Goku? Like is there really anything that's going to stop Goku from speedblitzing Ken in one picosecond?
Christ, Kenshiro is one of my favorite characters. So I don't appreciate him being put up against a tank like Goku.
If you know about Kenshiro than you should know that he could end this in one move. Like I said if Goku gives him the first hit then he is screwed. Ken has lifted rocks at least over 500 tons, has had rocks equally big or bigger break over his head and he is able to reinccarnate himself through Musou Tensei. How can you think HSK won't work on him when his body behaves like a normal persons outside of his strength and ki? Doesn't matter how many blasts he's taken he hasn't taken an attack that focuses on the inside of the body. Thats like saying lightning to his brain wouldn't hurt. IF a heart disease can affect him then so can HSK.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
If you know about Kenshiro than you should know that he could end this in one move. Like I said if Goku gives him the first hit then he is screwed. Ken has lifted rocks at least over 500 tons, has had rocks equally big or bigger break over his head and he is able to reinccarnate himself through Musou Tensei. How can you think HSK won't work on him when his body behaves like a normal persons outside of his strength and ki? Doesn't matter how many blasts he's taken he hasn't taken an attack that focuses on the inside of the body. Thats like saying lightning to his brain wouldn't hurt. IF a heart disease can affect him then so can HSK.
Goku's organs are likely just as strong as his exterior. If they weren't, he would die from his innards being crushed by the pressure of planet-busting attacks hitting his body.
And once again, this is all assuming that Goku doesn't end the fight with a mere kiai in the first few milliseconds.
Originally posted by Tyrant
Goku's organs are likely just as strong as his exterior. If they weren't, he would die from his innards being crushed by the pressure of planet-busting attacks hitting his body.And once again, this is all assuming that Goku doesn't end the fight with a mere kiai in the first few milliseconds.
Really? Saiyans have super durable organs now? When has anyone's organs been as durable as their outside? No matter how strong a man is his heart is as vulnerable to damage as a baby's.
Not True, Saiyans have Evolved for the single purpose of beign Warriors, their insides will be very dense and as they get stornger as will their insdes just like the rets of them, plus goku might not even have the same preassure points anyways Kens fingers wud break if he tried sumthign like that on goku
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Really? Saiyans have super durable organs now? When has anyone's organs been as durable as their outside? No matter how strong a man is his heart is as vulnerable to damage as a baby's.
Gravity training.
Gravity affects the whole body, including the inside.
If guys like Goku and Vegeta's organs were as weak as a normal human they would get squashed by the pressure of hundreds of times Earth gravity, that they casually train in.
And this is just assuming that Goku doesn't automatically run up to Ken and kill him the second the fight starts.
Originally posted by Tyrant
Gravity training.Gravity affects the whole body, including the inside.
If guys like Goku and Vegeta's organs were as weak as a normal human they would get squashed by the pressure of hundreds of times Earth gravity, that they casually train in.
And this is just assuming that Goku doesn't automatically run up to Ken and kill him the second the fight starts.
Gravity does nothing to pressure points. Goku's pressure points and organs are vulnerable.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Gravity does nothing to pressure points. Goku's pressure points and organs are vulnerable.
Logically fallacies on multiple levels.
1. This assumes Goku will allow him to hit him. Wrong.
2. This assumes the pressure point techniques will even penetrate Goku's planet-exploding proof skin. Wrong.
3. This assumes Goku is susceptible to pressure points. (No where is it shown that anyone is susceptible to pressure points in the DB universe.) Wrong.
4. This also assumes Kenshiro is even anywhere close to Goku's speed. Wrong.
Also, if the internal organs have been hardened or are just simply amazing, as someone else pointed out, no, they would not be affected in anyway shape or form by pressure point manipulation as seen from Kenshiro. Even a slight change in pressure in arteries or veins causes them to rupture. In the 1 psi range. If Goku has withstood 400 G's, that puts his ability to resist head exploding techniques at 400 psi or more. That makes sense since the DBZ characters can tank attacks that can incinerate areas that are much much larger than a city....and even tank planet destroying attacks, such as the Death Ball SSJ4 absorbed.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Logically fallacies on multiple levels.1. This assumes Goku will allow him to hit him. Wrong.
2. This assumes the pressure point techniques will even penetrate Goku's planet-exploding proof skin. Wrong.
3. This assumes Goku is susceptible to pressure points. (No where is it shown that anyone is susceptible to pressure points in the DB universe.) Wrong.
4. This also assumes Kenshiro is even anywhere close to Goku's speed. Wrong.
Also, if the internal organs have been hardened or are just simply amazing, as someone else pointed out, no, they would not be affected in anyway shape or form by pressure point manipulation as seen from Kenshiro. Even a slight change in pressure in arteries or veins causes them to rupture. In the 1 psi range. If Goku has withstood 400 G's, that puts his ability to resist head exploding techniques at 400 psi or more. That makes sense since the DBZ characters can tank attacks that can incinerate areas that are much much larger than a city....and even tank planet destroying attacks, such as the Death Ball SSJ4 absorbed.
Planet exploding proof skin? Ever planet busting attack that hit him killed him. Besides, Ken doesn't penetrate skin when he attacks. He grabbed a dude's wrist and he died later on. THe video I posted showed HSK working without even touching them. Goku is susceptible to human diseases so why wouldn't he have pressure points? His body acts like a humans.
Goku usually welcomes the first blow to gauge his opponents. Kenshiro isn't evil...hell the dude is sinless tbh since neither are evil neither will try to kill each other. My point is that HSK can kill Goku.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Planet exploding proof skin? Ever planet busting attack that hit him killed him.
Then you obviously didn't pay attention to any of the shows or manga. I even gave you an example. 😐
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Besides, Ken doesn't penetrate skin when he attacks. He grabbed a dude's wrist and he died later on. THe video I posted showed HSK working without even touching them. Goku is susceptible to human diseases so why wouldn't he have pressure points? His body acts like a humans.
Yes, some of his attacks are employed specifically to penetrate the skin. Why would Goku stand still for 5 minutes while the guy very slowly sends an attack his direction?
Also...
Goku's SSJ4 form is so powerful that it is mightier than the magical wishes of the dragon balls.
SSJ4>the second most powerful form of magic seen in the DB universe. I would say that only the original namekian dragon is more powerful than Earth's reformed Dragon. They both can grant 3 wishes.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Goku usually welcomes the first blow to gauge his opponents. Kenshiro isn't evil...hell the dude is sinless tbh since neither are evil neither will try to kill each other. My point is that HSK can kill Goku.
Now, this would be a good point, if Goku was susceptible to pressure point manipulation. Since no one in the DB universe was ever shown to be, then Kenshiro does crap to Goku when he was a weeeeee laddie.
Also, like it's been pointed out, Goku's body leagues beyond what a normal body is. To even think that any sort of pressure point manipulation is even possible on Goku's body should be considered retarded.
I pointed out all of your logical fallacies already, though.
I would say that this thread is another stupid "My favorite, but obviously and ridiculously weaker character versus Goku".
Originally posted by SmashBro
You do realize that Kenshiro has struck pressure points on other not-so-normal people too, right? Just because Goku is far beyond regular humans, doesn't mean he can't be effected by pressure points.
Show me where any DB character was susceptible to pressure points and I'll believe you.
This is similar to Aizen being suscpeptible to Reiatsu, but Trunks not. Each universe has it's weaknesses and strengths.
However, that doesn't matter because Kenshiro won't get a hit on Goku, nor will he get some projection done, either.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Show me where any DB character was susceptible to pressure points and I'll believe you.This is similar to Aizen being suscpeptible to Reiatsu, but Trunks not. Each universe has it's weaknesses and strengths.
However, that doesn't matter because Kenshiro won't get a hit on Goku, nor will he get some projection done, either.
Pressure points are areas on the body that effects someone when manipulated so unless Goku's insides are different (which is unlikely and never proven to be), he is vulnerable to pressure points.