Originally posted by Kris BlazeHahahaha. You are the only person I have ever seen argue that Thanos needed Skreets against Fallen One.
Quanchi is the only one who things Gamora and Fallen one are worth mentioning in a fight against Ares.He also thinks Thanos defeated Fallen One.
Power gem Thor, Maker, etc. brah.
Originally posted by Allankles
He was powered by Highfather to be his conduit to the Source.They were once part of the single god world Urgrund, which together with Source made up the 1st world. It was a giant world inhabited by the giant gods of the 2nd world before being split into 2 at the end of Ragnarok.
Urgrund was the size of a universe.
that all makes since except for every other story arc of the new gods. Like OWAW where apoclipse is in the earth solar system which wouldn't be possible if it were as big as a galaxy. what your saying from were your coming from makes since but every other story arc condricits it.
to answer the question of who would win i'm not sure. Off hand i would give Ares the same in this one as I did with darksied 6 out of 10 in favor of thanos.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
FAIL. Apokolips was boomtubed in by their technology.And most arcs are quite explicit about the fact that the new god dimension aka the 4th World, is almost completely inaccessible without a boom tube.
Most story arcs also back up the idea of it being a realm far larger than the regular DCU.
your right about the boom tube thing -- saying most arcs is a bs statement they didn't mention it in that arc, supergirl arc, or several other arcs in fact the 4th world being larger then the regular DCU is only mention in a very minority of comics. I was thinking about the whole boom tube thing, and if New Gods are so huge and then get boomed to dcu then are microscopic compaired to their former selves it doesn't pan unless they are greatly depowered. Orion and all the rest are shown to have super strength on new genesis, same with superman. I know people think supes is the strongest there is but wow an earth in the new genesis arc people keep referencing was small enough to fit into sups hand. Supes has lifted stuff on apokilpse that was well over a hunderd times his own mass that would be like half a galaxy if everything was true. Also if they retained there strength they have in the 4th world then even harvester would have the strength of superman and beyound if he can lift his body weight on New Genesis. It doesn't agree at all wtih the rest of comics unless the boom tube depowers them to a vast degree which means talking about there giant forms is riduclus and irrelevant (since anybody who would be in the 4th world would be boomed there and have there power drastically upped as well) and just trying to pull one over on the newbs on the forum who didn't take the time to look into it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hahahaha. You are the only person I have ever seen argue that Thanos needed Skreets against Fallen One.Power gem Thor, Maker, etc. brah.
Doesn't matter if he needs or not, you can't credit the feat to him when she was the one who beat him. Doesn't matter if they fought ****ing spider-man, if Skreet was the one who did all the work, then you can't credit Thanos with the feat. Simple as that.
And beating the Maker is hardly a feat worth mentioning when he's up against Ares. He used telepathy twice in the battle, and even Oracle was able to subdue the maker via telepathy. Not to mention that she was killed by the annihilation wave after their battle, some durability.
Power gem Thor? oooooh, he's got plenty feats. He hit Thanos a couple of times, made him bleed and then Thanos shot him with a gun. Wow! That'll work well against someone who is immune to any weapon, ever. Good luck, son.
Originally posted by jasofisc
your right about the boom tube thing -- saying most arcs is a bs statement they didn't mention it in that arc, supergirl arc, or several other arcs in fact the 4th world being larger then the regular DCU is only mention in a very minority of comics. I was thinking about the whole boom tube thing, and if New Gods are so huge and then get boomed to dcu then are microscopic compaired to their former selves it doesn't pan unless they are greatly depowered. Orion and all the rest are shown to have super strength on new genesis, same with superman. I know people think supes is the strongest there is but wow an earth in the new genesis arc people keep referencing was small enough to fit into sups hand. Supes has lifted stuff on apokilpse that was well over a hunderd times his own mass that would be like half a galaxy if everything was true. Also if they retained there strength they have in the 4th world then even harvester would have the strength of superman and beyound if he can lift his body weight on New Genesis. It doesn't agree at all wtih the rest of comics unless the boom tube depowers them to a vast degree which means talking about there giant forms is riduclus and irrelevant (since anybody who would be in the 4th world would be boomed there and have there power drastically upped as well) and just trying to pull one over on the newbs on the forum who didn't take the time to look into it.
..........🤨 It's quite obvious you haven't read jack about the new gods and that you do not understand the concept of the boomtube technology. Please go read some more and then get back to me. 😬
" I was thinking about the whole boom tube thing, and if New Gods are so huge and then get boomed to dcu then are microscopic compaired to their former selves it doesn't pan unless they are greatly depowered."
Problem is, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. They are vastly depowered compared to their non-boomtubed forms. Look at Darkseid in FC.
Originally posted by AverageSavageThanos put up his shield and told skreets to hold back so she wouldn't kill him. He was in complete control of the situation.
Doesn't matter if he needs or not, you can't credit the feat to him when she was the one who beat him. Doesn't matter if they fought ****ing spider-man, if Skreet was the one who did all the work, then you can't credit Thanos with the feat. Simple as that.And beating the Maker is hardly a feat worth mentioning when he's up against Ares. He used telepathy twice in the battle, and even Oracle was able to subdue the maker via telepathy. Not to mention that she was killed by the annihilation wave after their battle, some durability.
Power gem Thor? oooooh, he's got plenty feats. He hit Thanos a couple of times, made him bleed and then Thanos shot him with a gun. Wow! That'll work well against someone who is immune to any weapon, ever. Good luck, son.
Maker had infinite power and Thanos easily physically hurt her then mindraped her. Oracle mentally subdued her while Thanos easily contained her powerwise.
Thor with the power gem annihilated Dr. Strange, the Infinity Watch, and the Silver Surfer like they were nothing.
Go ahead and name some Ares feats. You seem to be upset about the fact that Thanos has Ares beat easily.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestScans of this monstrous Ds you keep describing from fc.
..........🤨 It's quite obvious you haven't read jack about the new gods and that you do not understand the concept of the boomtube technology. Please go read some more and then get back to me. 😬" I was thinking about the whole boom tube thing, and if New Gods are so huge and then get boomed to dcu then are microscopic compaired to their former selves it doesn't pan unless they are greatly depowered."
Problem is, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. They are vastly depowered compared to their non-boomtubed forms. Look at Darkseid in FC.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
..........🤨 It's quite obvious you haven't read jack about the new gods and that you do not understand the concept of the boomtube technology. Please go read some more and then get back to me. 😬" I was thinking about the whole boom tube thing, and if New Gods are so huge and then get boomed to dcu then are microscopic compaired to their former selves it doesn't pan unless they are greatly depowered."
Problem is, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. They are vastly depowered compared to their non-boomtubed forms. Look at Darkseid in FC.
that's my point that when you consider the boomtube tech it negates there actual power in there own demention. When hey come to dcu they are depowered and if someone goes there then they get powered up. how can you say i obviously haven't read jack when you just agreed with my summation. my conclusion if that bringing up there actual size doesn't matter because inorder to fight someone from dcu or marvel u they have to boom there and if they boom there or their opponent booms to them they either get depowered or powered up. so there actual size is a non factor.
Originally posted by jasofisc👆 Couldn't agree more.
that's my point that when you consider the boomtube tech it negates there actual power in there own demention. When hey come to dcu they are depowered and if someone goes there then they get powered up. how can you say i obviously haven't read jack when you just agreed with my summation. my conclusion if that bringing up there actual size doesn't matter because inorder to fight someone from dcu or marvel u they have to boom there and if they boom there or their opponent booms to them they either get depowered or powered up. so there actual size is a non factor.
Doomsday also got there without the benefit of a boomtube and he was of equal size.
If Thanos has prep, sure he can win.
But without? He's screwed.
Ares doesn't even have a physical body. The guy with scary blue armour and huge battle axe? That's just a projection of himself. So is the blond guy with a scars on his chest.
He's quite literally a god. He can create and unmake reality. He can create universes and destroy them in a second thought.
He's also absorbed Hades' powers making him doubly powerful.
Thanos can't really attack him. One tactic Ares likes to use is to become 'one' with the universe and just blitz his opponent from a higher plane.
And any act of violence against Ares just makes that much stronger. He feeds it on it. That's what gives him life.
So, Thanos can blast away all he wants. He wouldn't be harmed in anyway. Ares is the personification of war and conflict. Unless war and conflict across the multiverse dies out, Ares is immortal, infinite and unstoppable.
Originally posted by quanchi112
In countdown he used olsen to beat him because on his own he was fighting for his life. 😉
I asked when has he had problems defeating Supes. In every era or major period in comics he has had the beating of Supes. Precrisis era, post crisis with Superpowers, Countdown, DOTNG, NGv3, confidential, The Darkside (which was an era when the likes of Orion were portrayed as being less than Supes).
In all those instances he made quick work of Supes utilizing his esoteric powers. Your arguments are somewhat pointless to the gist of my point, which is that... in no era has DS had problems beating Supes.
Originally posted by AllanklesApokolips now, superman's comic where Superman easily bfr'd him, twice in Superman/Batman,legends crossover, countdown, end of owaw, etc.
I asked when has he had problems defeating Supes. In every era or major period in comics he has had the beating of Supes. Precrisis era, post crisis with Superpowers, Countdown, DOTNG, NGv3, confidential, The Darkside (which was an era when the likes of Orion were portrayed as being less than Supes).In all those instances he made quick work of Supes utilizing his esoteric powers. Your arguments are somewhat pointless to the gist of my point, which is that... in no era has DS had problems beating Supes.
I mean he hasn't beaten Superman by himself in how many years?
In death of the new gods he was amped bigtime. Under his own power he can't beat him unless he has some kind of help.
Confidential was their first meeting by the way. Is darkside even canon?
Originally posted by -K-M-I think it's an elseworlds story. Dark side where Superman is turned bad I believe. I have it on a torrent, but haven't read it.
The Darkside? If it's what I'm thinking of then no, but there have been a few stories and elseworld stories with the same name. Which one you guys refering to?
Allankles always uses feats and instances that don't apply to current Ds.