Originally posted by Placidity
^ You mean swallow the whole beach?Like, I said before. Sandman buries Hulk kilometers underground.
Hulk's handled way more pressure than that. Besides, the deeper Sandy buries him, the more compact the sand'll get, and the easier to move.
If the issue is location, Hulk lures him into the water, or brings the water to him, in which case, Mr. Sandington gets nice and wet, making him more compact and easier for Hulk to get a hold of him.
Or, more likely, the water screws up his control over the sand and he melts. Hulk scoops up the waterlogged Sandy and flings him out into ocean.
Hell, simple battle is simple. Hulk moves away from the beach. Just because the battle starts there doesn't mean it'll stay there. Sandman is not in the same class as World War Hulk. Period.
Originally posted by XanatosForever
Hulk's handled way more pressure than that. Besides, the deeper Sandy buries him, the more compact the sand'll get, and the easier to move.Hell, simple battle is simple. Hulk moves away from the beach. Just because the battle starts there doesn't mean it'll stay there. Sandman is not in the same class as World War Hulk. Period.
So I see your whole view is that Hulk is in a higher class, therefore he wins...
Um its not just pressure, although there will be at least millions of tonnes of sand on top of him.
As soon as the battle starts, Hulk has no ground to stand on, Sandman will control the sand in the whole area and keep making Hulk sink to the very bottom, wherever that is. Sandman can control the density of all the sand there. He can make it so its not "compact". Hulk won't have any leverage to get out. Think quicksand.
Originally posted by Placidity
So I see your whole view is that Hulk is in a higher class, therefore he wins...Um its not just pressure, although there will be at least millions of tonnes of sand on top of him.
As soon as the battle starts, Hulk has no ground to stand on, Sandman will control the sand in the whole area and keep making Hulk sink to the very bottom, wherever that is. Sandman can control the density of all the sand there. He can make it so its not "compact". Hulk won't have any leverage to get out. Think quicksand.
And I see that your point of view is that Sandman is a tactical genius. No offense, but last I checked (and it's been a while, I'll confess) Sandman didn't put a lot of thought into his fights.
If that is all it would take to bring down one of the single most powerful characters in the Marvel universe, why wouldn't he do the same thing with Spidey? It's not like it wouldn't be hard to grab hold of the web-slinger and drag him to a beach, would it?
I'll admit I'm a fairly big Hulk fanboy, but regardless of that, Sandman doesn't have the strength or combat experience to beat World War Hulk. If it were standard Hulk, he might have a chance at stopping him, but not a Hulk, at peak power, that can handle more complex thought processes.
Originally posted by XanatosForever
If that is all it would take to bring down one of the single most powerful characters in the Marvel universe, why wouldn't he do the same thing with Spidey? It's not like it wouldn't be hard to grab hold of the web-slinger and drag him to a beach, would it?I'll admit I'm a fairly big Hulk fanboy, but regardless of that, Sandman doesn't have the strength or combat experience to beat World War Hulk. If it were standard Hulk, he might have a chance at stopping him, but not a Hulk, at peak power, that can handle more complex thought processes.
Um, Spiderman would lose vs Sandman at the beach.
I'll say again, Sandman isn't relying on strength. And about being a "tactical genius", why the hell wouldn't he use the whole beach to his advantage in a fight? You don't have to be a genius.
Again, if Sandman buries him, Hulk won't have leverage to get out. Same reason why people die in quicksand.
Originally posted by Placidity
Um, Spiderman would lose vs Sandman at the beach.
Then why doesn't Sandman ever lure him to the beach?
Originally posted by Placidity
I'll say again, Sandman isn't relying on strength. And about being a "tactical genius", why the hell wouldn't he use the whole beach to his advantage in a fight? You don't have to be a genius.
Sandman's a thug. His idea of advantage is having enough sand to reform as he tries to pummel Hulk, which is a useless endeavor. He might try and trap him in sand on the surface, but the chances of him really thinking the fight out are slim.
Originally posted by Placidity
Again, if Sandman buries him,
See previous rebuttal.
Originally posted by Placidity
Hulk won't have leverage to get out. Same reason why people die in quicksand.
If Hulk got buried, he has multiple directions he can choose to maneuver in. If he tries to go up, Sandy keeps the sand shifting. Point to you there. If Hulk tries to go in any other direction, he'll eventually end up out of range of the sand, particularly downwards. Sandman wouldn't be expecting him to move away from the surface, so he wouldn't be exerting as much control in the other directions.
Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Wouldn't hulk choke to death when his lungs filled with sand? Because I'm pretty sure the hulk still needs to breath. I mean he might be able to hold his breath for a long time but not forever.
If hulk swallows him, hulkd digestive juices would quickly decompose sandman.