WWHulk wins. If Sandy tries to bury him, he thunder claps him away. Even if he got him underground and tried to keep him from getting leverage, Hulk would again, have the ability to just Thunder clap the tons of sand away. While Sandman is reforming, Hulk jumps, climbs, or digs his way out of the now non-controlled sand and then drenches the beach with water, making Sandman much less effective, if not useless.
If Sandman tries to suffocate the Hulk by going in his nose, the Hulk would just literally sneeze him out.
Sandman simply doesn't have the strength to stop the Hulk from thunder clapping whenever the hulk needed to in this fight.
Hulk wins.
Originally posted by Serious Impact
WWHulk wins. If Sandy tries to bury him, he thunder claps him away. Even if he got him underground and tried to keep him from getting leverage, Hulk would again, have the ability to just Thunder clap the tons of sand away. While Sandman is reforming, Hulk jumps, climbs, or digs his way out of the now non-controlled sand and then drenches the beach with water, making Sandman much less effective, if not useless.If Sandman tries to suffocate the Hulk by going in his nose, the Hulk would just literally sneeze him out.
Sandman simply doesn't have the strength to stop the Hulk from thunder clapping whenever the hulk needed to in this fight.
Hulk wins.
Don't get me wrong here. This would be a great fight! I would've loved to have seen WWHulk fight Sandman like this. It would've made for a fun comic to read. I just can't see anyway in which WWHulk wouldn't ultimately come out on top. Sandman just isn't in his league...even if he had a whole desert to play with.
Originally posted by Serious Impact
WWHulk wins. If Sandy tries to bury him, he thunder claps him away. Even if he got him underground and tried to keep him from getting leverage, Hulk would again, have the ability to just Thunder clap the tons of sand away.
Sandman could make Hulk face upside down. Then he can clap all he wants.
Originally posted by Serious Impact
While Sandman is reforming, Hulk jumps, climbs, or digs his way out of the now non-controlled sand
Theres no uncontrolled sand. The beach is Sandman. The bottom half is still sandman. Hulk has no leverage to Jump, climb or dig.
Originally posted by Serious Impact
and then drenches the beach with water, making Sandman much less effective, if not useless.
Ok assuming Hulk could get out of his sandy grave, which is impossible - How does Hulk drench the entire beach with water? You know how large and long a beach is? Sandman can't be beaten.
Originally posted by Placidity
Sandman could make Hulk face upside down. Then he can clap all he wants.
Sandy's got two options against Hulk when he's trying to smother him. He can make the sand loose so Hulk can't climb, or he can compact it to try and keep Hulk in place. In the former case, Hulk has enough movement velocity to TC the sand off. In the latter case, Hulk just moves the sand with brute strength.
Originally posted by Placidity
Theres no uncontrolled sand. The beach is Sandman. The bottom half is still sandman. Hulk has no leverage to Jump, climb or dig.
Oh, I see where you're going with this. So Sandy's controlling the entirety of the beach, and just trying to bash Hulk around from his torso up. TC deforms him, he reforms and gets TC'd again. If he Sandy tries to trap him, see my above remarks.
Originally posted by Placidity
Ok assuming Hulk could get out of his sandy grave, which is impossible - How does Hulk drench the entire beach with water?
If Hulk wanted to wet the whole beach, he could. He has more than enough power to bring waves along big enough to cover the whole beach.
Originally posted by Placidity
You know how large and long a beach is?
Beaches will can vary in size, from a little alcove, to a whole island. Do you know how big a beach Sandy's got to use?
Originally posted by Placidity
Sandman can't be beaten.
A complete and total matter of opinion that's already been proven otherwise by the fact Spidey womps him on a regular basis.
Originally posted by Placidity
Sandman could make Hulk face upside down. Then he can clap all he wants.
If he made him face upside down, than he could use his thunder clap as propulsion to get himself out. Besides, how's he going to get him face down in the first place, force him? I don't think that's going to happen. Of course, this is assuming he can even get him completely under the sand before the hulk thunder claps him away. This is nothing like quick sand. Normal people can't move tons of sand with the slap of their hands like the Hulk can.
Besides, who cares which direction he's facing, he claps and the sand flies way, he reorients himself before it returns and claps again and again, and again. He has the strength to thunder clap no matter how deep he is, or how much sand is around him and he could do it all day until he's where he wants to be.
Oh, and if you say this won't work because the sand is everywhere. Well then, the propulsion ideas works great, since there's plenty of surface for the shock wave to push off of. You can't have it both ways, the sand is either always there, or can be moved away. Either way, he can get out. I won't even go into the details mentioned in other posts about the limited depths of the sand on a beach, which could further be exploited by the Hulk.
Theres no uncontrolled sand. The beach is Sandman. The bottom half is still sandman. Hulk has no leverage to Jump, climb or dig.
Yes, there very well could be uncontrolled sand. Sandman has been knocked unconscious before and the force of the thunder clap from WWHulk could very easily do it. Even if he couldn't, he could scatter the sand so far apart that it would take a while for sandman to reform it all, or discern in all the chaos what sand he still had control of. Plus, while his perception might extend most of the beach, his consciousness isn't everywhere at once while he's in the sand, he still has a "head" somewhere in there. If that was scattered, I seriously doubt that he'd be able to control the sand until it reforms. Judging from all the comics he's been in, he's always talking, thus revealing where his "head" is in the sand. You know he wouldn't be able to resist gloating over his perceived advantage and that would be his undoing.
Final point on this, all that sand he's clapping away, he could be sending into the ocean. If he were to find Sandman's "head" while he's gloating, he could thunder clap his "head" into the ocean and end this very quickly.
Ok assuming Hulk could get out of his sandy grave, which is impossible - How does Hulk drench the entire beach with water? You know how large and long a beach is? Sandman can't be beaten.
He doesn't need to drench the whole beach, just the area of the beach they are fighting on. Even if he could control an entire beach, which I've never seen him capable of doing, the Hulk could drench a large portion of it, using the same technique he's been using all along. He jumps 2 miles out to sea, then Thuder claps underwater. Tidal wave ensues. Rinse, repeat and the beach is drenched. This is assuming he doesn't simply move to another location, taking the fight off the beach and Sandman actually has the guts to follow.
In closing, if Spidey beat's him time and time again, WWHulk most definitely does too. (Sorry, I just had to throw this in 😛). Hulk wins 10/10
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
WWH ends up trapped for eternity in a dream world.
Precisely. Morpheus walks all over the Hulk.
Anyways, this is idiotic. Spiderman treats Sandman like a joke (and by the way, Spiderman HAS fought Sandman in highly...sanded...places. Sandman does have a limit to how much mass he can take in... otherwise he could just manipulate the entire world): Hulk would destroy him in so many ways, through sheer distribution of sand (thunderclapping it away), manipulation of the conveniently placed ocean, or through applying comic book physics, by pounding the sand into glass through the sheer force of his fists or something like that. Dropping the entire beach on hulk would barely slow him down.
Originally posted by tjcoadybut how is hulk supposed to defeat the entire beach ?
Precisely. Morpheus walks all over the Hulk.Anyways, this is idiotic. Spiderman treats Sandman like a joke (and by the way, Spiderman HAS fought Sandman in highly...sanded...places. Sandman does have a limit to how much mass he can take in... otherwise he could just manipulate the entire world): Hulk would destroy him in so many ways, through sheer distribution of sand (thunderclapping it away), manipulation of the conveniently placed ocean, or through applying comic book physics, by pounding the sand into glass through the sheer force of his fists or something like that. Dropping the entire beach on hulk would barely slow him down.
Originally posted by Placidity
Um, Spiderman would lose vs Sandman at the beach.I'll say again, Sandman isn't relying on strength. And about being a "tactical genius", why the hell wouldn't he use the whole beach to his advantage in a fight? You don't have to be a genius.
Again, if Sandman buries him, Hulk won't have leverage to get out. Same reason why people die in quicksand.