Emperor Joker vs Thanos IG

lol, sucks when links don't work. I feel your pain. I would've loved to have read them too. I'll be happy to look through the respect thread when I have more time (kind of working at the moment, so only can spare a few minutes to glance and type).

It still doesn't change the fact that for one, this is not Mxy, this is EJ and his feats were not anywhere close to those levels. Second, even if EJ had that power, he didn't come close to using it, or showing any indication that he could use it to that extent. Third, these still don't counter the fact that Mxy has time and time again been thwarted by much weaker opponents, non of whom would have a chance against Thanos with the IG.

Unfortunately, when you get to these levels of power, it's really hard to judge who's more powerful than who. Mxy's style is much different than Thanos with the IG. Mxy has always been more for humor and fun, not to be taken too seriously. If he ever was, there would have been more stories involving bigger cosmic powers trying to stop him. Instead, you are left with him harassing Superman as entertainment...and losing. Thanos was considered a serious threat to the multiverse and in his short time with the IG took out everything that stood in his way and pretty much everything that could, tried and failed. Give him 30 years of writing with the IG and he'd easily have feats to match Mxy.

I still give it to Thanos.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
HYPERTIME. Look it up. It makes WF canon.

Doesn't matter. Elseworlds aren't used as evidence for mainstream characters on KMC. Its in the rules. It even specifically mentions Elseworlds.

Originally posted by Serious Impact
lol, sucks when links don't work. I feel your pain. I would've loved to have read them too. I'll be happy to look through the respect thread when I have more time (kind of working at the moment, so only can spare a few minutes to glance and type).

It still doesn't change the fact that for one, this is not Mxy, this is EJ and his feats were not anywhere close to those levels. Second, even if EJ had that power, he didn't come close to using it, or showing any indication that he could use it to that extent. Third, these still don't counter the fact that Mxy has time and time again been thwarted by much weaker opponents, non of whom would have a chance against Thanos with the IG.

Unfortunately, when you get to these levels of power, it's really hard to judge who's more powerful than who. Mxy's style is much different than Thanos with the IG. Mxy has always been more for humor and fun, not to be taken too seriously. If he ever was, there would have been more stories involving bigger cosmic powers trying to stop him. Instead, you are left with him harassing Superman as entertainment...and losing. Thanos was considered a serious threat to the multiverse and in his short time with the IG took out everything that stood in his way and pretty much everything that could, tried and failed. Give him 30 years of writing with the IG and he'd easily have feats to match Mxy.

I still give it to Thanos.

Mxy says he's killed multiple supermans. I guess they just don't show it in the comics b/c then there wouldn't be anymore superman stories to be told. And if they had EJ use the powers like mxy has shown he can then there wouldn't be anymore comic book stories ever b/c he would've just retconned the DC multiverse out of existence. The only reason I'm comparing mxy and EJ is b/c he was supposed to have 99.99% of mxys power which i'm pretty sure should put him above Thanos with IG. This is really dependent on whether or not EJ has figured out the full extent of his powers or not.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Doesn't matter. Elseworlds aren't used as evidence for mainstream characters on KMC. Its in the rules. It even specifically mentions Elseworlds.

^ Spoken with complete ignorance as to the concept and nature of hypertime. For most characters, you would be right. But some characters are singular in reality and thus outside the conceit of the rules you refer to.

IE: LT. One of the only examples in Marvel of an entity for whom every appearence is canon because they are outside of time and or a higher dimensional being. Spectre, Mxy, New Gods, Phantom Stranger, Hyper-Man, etc.

If you want to argue about DC, learn what the hell you're talking about. 😐

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
HYPERTIME. Look it up. It makes WF canon.

No Non-canon Sources
Non-canon sources are invalid for evidence. With rare exceptions, comics not in continuity such as Elseworlds, What Ifs, or alternate universes are not used for evidence in debates of a particular mainstream character.

A canon source is one that is regarded as being 'in continuity'. In the example of Star Trek; instances from the series and movies can be used, but books are definitely out. Comic book crossovers are usually unusable as they ignore common sense most of the time (DC vs. Marvel is certainly unusable in some cases in our debates!).

This includes JLA/Avengers. Canon or not, people just aren't going to agree on it in most cases. Besides, there should be plenty of other comics with which to make your point.

This principle extends to characters with multiple versions, alternate timelines, etc. Unless specified by the thread starter, only current-version canon feats are allowed.

Unless, WF is stated it isn't canon trick. Elseworlds is specifically mentioned.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
^ Spoken with complete ignorance as to the concept and nature of hypertime. For most characters, you would be right. But some characters are singular in reality and thus outside the conceit of the rules you refer to.

IE: LT. One of the only examples in Marvel of an entity for whom every appearence is canon because they are outside of time and or a higher dimensional being. Spectre, Mxy, New Gods, Phantom Stranger, Hyper-Man, etc.

If you want to argue about DC, learn what the hell you're talking about. 😐

Originally posted by quanchi112
The rules specifically state that elseworlds aren't canon. It is inadmissible.

The rules are incorrect in this case. It is admissable with Hypertime relating to characters for whom every appearence is canon.

You're too thick to understand the concept, so sit down and let the adults talk. galan_grin

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The rules are incorrect in this case. It is admissable with Hypertime relating to characters for whom every appearence is canon.

You're too thick to understand the concept, so sit down and let the adults talk. galan_grin

THINK FOR ONE SECOND AND LET DOWN THE MENTAL WALLS. Why is it so hard for you to figure this out? 😬

Hypertime IS CANON. And in case you forgot, Hypertime makes all elseworlds canon. And characters who are singular in reality, are canon in every appearence.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
THINK FOR ONE SECOND AND LET DOWN THE MENTAL WALLS. Why is it so hard for you to figure this out? 😬

Hypertime IS CANON. And in case you forgot, Hypertime makes all elseworlds canon. And characters who are singular in reality, are canon in every appearence.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, Hypertime makes them alternate worlds still with different characters. How is this hard to grasp? Unless, Ds is going to be killed off by Orion in the future like in kingdom come you have to realize that elseworlds are only usable if you state that particular comic.

Didn't you read Rock of Ages? The New Gods are aware of alternate timelines and realities, and they are singular in existence. And because of that, every appearence is canon, since they are just fractions of the true higher dimensional nature of the new gods.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Didn't you read Rock of Ages? The New Gods are aware of alternate timelines and realities, and they are singular in existence. And because of that, every appearence is canon, since they are just fractions of the true higher dimensional nature of the new gods.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, in the rock of ages Darkseid was killed. Can I bring that into a debate? Hey, fine by me.

And at the end of the story, Darkseid was shown to still exist, imprisoned on the source wall. You can't kill a concept, fool. The New Gods are higher dimensional beings, continuity and alternate realities are irrelevant to something outside of time.

Originally posted by Galan007
What could make the World's Funnest scans canonical?

Hypertime:

Basically,
It's what links ALL of the various DC titles.

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And as you can see,
Mxy himself has directly referenced Hypertime, in a completely different DC title:

So he obviously has some knowledge of it...

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
And at the end of the story, Darkseid was shown to still exist, imprisoned on the source wall. You can't kill a concept, fool. The New Gods are higher dimensional beings, continuity and alternate realities are irrelevant to something outside of time.

Trick that doesn't make it canon by the way. It just shows their are alternate realities and being aware of hypertime doesn't make it canon anywho.

There are different Supermen, etc. so if Supes does something in an alternate storyline you can't reference it to current Supes. It's the way it is.

It's the same concept as to why everything is canon for LT, you schmuck. 😬

Superman isn;t a character who is singular in reality nor is he outside of time/the DCU.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
It's the same concept as to why everything is canon for LT, you schmuck. 😬

Superman isn;t a character who is singular in reality nor is he outside of time/the DCU.

What ifs are also against the rules you schmuck.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
It's the same concept as to why everything is canon for LT, you schmuck. 😬

Superman isn;t a character who is singular in reality nor is he outside of time/the DCU.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Elseworlds are against the rules. I don't need to say anything else. It's clear as day.

What ifs are also against the rules you schmuck.

Hypertime does leave some events open for interpretation regarding continuity and canon. But I would need to see a scan from mainstream DC continuity referencing an event to call it canon.

This is the most retarded thread I have ever read.

When Mxy jumps out of a DC comic and attacks Joe Quesada lemme know...THEN I'll buy all the comic world/real world horse-shit...

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
And at the end of the story, Darkseid was shown to still exist, imprisoned on the source wall. You can't kill a concept, fool. The New Gods are higher dimensional beings, continuity and alternate realities are irrelevant to something outside of time.