Originally posted by TricksterPriest
^ Spoken with complete ignorance as to the concept and nature of hypertime. For most characters, you would be right. But some characters are singular in reality and thus outside the conceit of the rules you refer to.IE: LT. One of the only examples in Marvel of an entity for whom every appearence is canon because they are outside of time and or a higher dimensional being. Spectre, Mxy, New Gods, Phantom Stranger, Hyper-Man, etc.
If you want to argue about DC, learn what the hell you're talking about. 😐
If the LT was in a "What If" and did something really cool...or even really uncool, I wouldn't use that as evidence. Hell, there's only one Phoenix Force. Does anyone bring up the numerous What Ifs that appearances in (What if Storm became the Phoenix? What If Vulcan was the Phoenix? Are just two off the top of my head.)
And yeah, there's a Spectre Prime. But there are also avatars of Spectre...so, err...yeah, that wouldn't be used, either. Otherwise Mxy and Bat-Mite kill the Spectre and he's no more forever. Which obviously isn't true.
Also: What Newjak said.
Originally posted by Enyalus
If the LT was in a "What If" and did something really cool...or even really uncool, I wouldn't use that as evidence. Hell, there's only one Phoenix Force. Does anyone bring up the numerous What Ifs that appearances in (What if Storm became the Phoenix? What If Vulcan was the Phoenix? Are just two off the top of my head.)And yeah, there's a Spectre Prime. But there are also avatars of Spectre...so, err...yeah, that wouldn't be used, either. Otherwise Mxy and Bat-Mite kill the Spectre and he's no more forever. Which obviously isn't true.
Also: What Newjak said.
I don't know what else to say. I don't care if he could come out of the comics and rip our whole universe a new one, he has always been drawn as a joke character and always will be. It's like the writers have an idea, but don't know how to implement it into their comic because it normally wouldn't make sense, so another writer says "Hey, we can have Mxyzptlk do it! We don't need to explain how he does it, he just can do it because of who he is!" He's the cosmic joke of the DC Universe, all powerful or not.
He gets depowered by sorcerers, continuously defeated by lesser beings, and kidnapped by Superboy prime (btw, wasn't he with his girlfriend when he's kidnapped? What's up with her, does she have the same powers as Mxy?). If he could prevent these things from happening, than why doesn't he? I have know idea why anyone with enough power to destroy multiverses would let someone take his power away, or kidnap him, without making them regret ever thinking of it, or stopping them before it even happens.
As for him saying he's killed countless Supermans, well good for him. He still hasn't managed to permanently kill the canon Superman. The canon Superman seems to be making up for all the other Supermans by defeating Mxy "countless" times on his own.
Besides, Once again, this thread is about Emperor Joker, not about Mxy. He never showed that he could wield that kind of power, even if he had it. He couldn't even kill batman because then he'd cease to exist himself, or something to that effect...that's not all powerful.
Anyway, these are my last points. Whether you agree, or disagree, doesn't really matter. As I've said before, I don't think the writers ever intended Mxy to be all powerful. I think they just wanted someone powerful enough to "explain" the unexplainable in plots that would otherwise make no sense. Mxy allows them to do this, good for him.
Thanos still wins
Now I'm going to bed. Good night all.
Originally posted by Serious Impact
I don't know what else to say. I don't care if he could come out of the comics and rip our whole universe a new one, he has always been drawn as a joke character and always will be. It's like the writers have an idea, but don't know how to implement it into their comic because it normally wouldn't make sense, so another writer says "Hey, we can have Mxyzptlk do it! We don't need to explain how he does it, he just can do it because of who he is!" He's the cosmic joke of the DC Universe, all powerful or not.He gets depowered by sorcerers, continuously defeated by lesser beings, and kidnapped by Superboy prime (btw, wasn't he with his girlfriend when he's kidnapped? What's up with her, does she have the same powers as Mxy?). If he could prevent these things from happening, than why doesn't he? I have know idea why anyone with enough power to destroy multiverses would let someone take his power away, or kidnap him, without making them regret ever thinking of it, or stopping them before it even happens.
As for him saying he's killed countless Supermans, well good for him. He still hasn't managed to permanently kill the canon Superman. The canon Superman seems to be making up for all the other Supermans by defeating Mxy "countless" times on his own.
Besides, Once again, this thread is about Emperor Joker, not about Mxy. He never showed that he could wield that kind of power, even if he had it. He couldn't even kill batman because then he'd cease to exist himself, or something to that effect...that's not all powerful.
Anyway, these are my last points. Whether you agree, or disagree, doesn't really matter. As I've said before, I don't think the writers ever intended Mxy to be all powerful. I think they just wanted someone powerful enough to "explain" the unexplainable in plots that would otherwise make no sense. Mxy allows them to do this, good for him.
Thanos still wins
Now I'm going to bed. Good night all.
Meh,
if they try and bring out those ridiculous out of the comic book rules nonsense feats by Mxy,
we'll just bring She-Hulk to the table, or Black Panther, or Doom, or Impossible Man,
or the others that have dealt with the silly fourth wall garbage scenarios.
Heck, She-Hulk has broken that stupid 4th wall more than anyone,
even forcing her writer to write her the way she wishes 😂
I mean ... come on.
Originally posted by theICONiacThis is the most retarded thread I have ever read.
When Mxy jumps out of a DC comic and attacks Joe Quesada lemme know...
THEN I'll buy all the comic world/real world horse-shit...
I'm with ya pal,
nothing more absurd than cats using that comedic garbage as actual feats.
I never understood how some don't realize that's a joke,
no different than what She-Hulk was doing across 60 issues in the Byrne run,
or what Impossible Man and others have been doing since back in the day.
I mean, She-Hulk visited Marvel Headquaters and beat up the staff,
and had them writing her the way she pleased,
so is She Hulk = > than Mxy?
Not in a serious comic setting,
but in goofy issues, hell yea.
It's a joke people, yes, Mxy doesn't have the DC comic line in his room,
Mxy can't really visit the real world or jump across comic companies,
uhhm, jesus, it's ... a ... joke! (not meant to be taken seriously)
Originally posted by Enyalus😛
That's a very liberal opinion from you.
Company bias aside, their feats are just too close to say one of them would be over the other. Just don't see it as anything but a stalemate.
Originally posted by AstnerNot when a character (such as Mxy) breaches the fourth wall, gets the draft of a comic that has yet to be released from DC editors, returns back to the 'true' comic world, then finally uses the information he gathered from the comic draft to affect other characters (such as Superman.)
When analysing a character breaking through the forth wall and interact with the author, or alike. We should treat it as an alternate universe within the comic book.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
It's the same concept as to why everything is canon for LT, you schmuck. 😬Superman isn;t a character who is singular in reality nor is he outside of time/the DCU.
Trick do I need to quote you saying in another thread that the Super Canon Reed built wasn't admissible. Yet here your saying every appreance by the LT is in. Funny how that works