Gladiator vs. Darkseid

Started by Lord Feron12 pages

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I think Glads could win at the most 2 times against seid in a just h2h battle. However, I think it's more like 9/10 for seid h2h. Using all powers seid 11/10 everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. Ooo yeah and Glads is not supes superior, you have that backwards.
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Originally posted by Lord Feron
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Why the thumbs down?

Because Superman has only beaten Darkseid in a clean fistfight ONCE. Every other time had extenuating circumstances.

Not to mention............Glads isn't Superman. dur

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Why the thumbs down?

I strongly disagree with you, good sir. I'm using supes as a barometer as how many wins Glads would take. IMO DS should be (as great as everyone says he is) and then gets beat by Supes on occasion. Considering everything everyone says DS, he really shouldn't be owned by Supes but he does.

Anyway, Supes and Glads are nearly Identical. I would say Durability and speed (has been clocked on panel faster than supes but supes has done things that seem similar but has no indication to how fast he actually was) But i'll be generous and say they are arguable comparable because neither one will win against each other due strictly to speed. Anyway lets have fun and say they are pretty much the same. Glads strength is a couple of notches higher than supes. Granted that Supes displays his range of strength more due to being the poster boy of DC, it may seem that Supes is stronger. Gladiator not nearly as many showings as supes but what he has accomplished with his powers is imo greater than anything Supes has ever done bar special amps and what not (but in some cases even then).

Glads also tends to be more serious and doesn't mind enforcing Shair Law with extreme prejudice when necessary. His fighting skills are also impressive due to his knowledge of combat throughout all of shiar space and that is a very large span of space.

I respect DS he should be powerful but there are times when writers make him look like a ***** as he is suppose to be a peer of supes and not a obviously clear superior.

IMO if Glads ever fought Supes it would be 6/10 in favor of glads and nothing less. They are peers but like i said a few notches higher in speed and Strength.

IMO I would say Glads would win a slight majority over DS aswell as Supes.

Anyone who has read my stuff knows that I am not incredible biased and I have always supported Glads over Supes (assumeing there are no 3rd parties) Frankly I am tired of this but this thread is against Supes Classic Villians and would find it interesting.

Gonna go with a split here, 5/10. DS has the strength edge. Gladiator has the speed and durability edge. Combat skill probably goes to Gladiator as well, but I don't know enough about DS in that area to say conclusively.

Originally posted by Thorion
What a piss-poor argument.

But he isn't outclassed. If that where the case, Gladiator-lite wouldn't consistently embarrass Darkseid physically.

you're such a tard, you act like glads has beaten any top tiers.

Originally posted by Nihilist
you're such a tard, you act like glads has beaten any top tiers.

Thor. Twice. 😬 Hyperion, too.

...There's gotta be more. I'm drawing a blank right now though. 😛

Originally posted by Enyalus
Thor. Twice. 😬 Hyperion, too.

...There's gotta be more. I'm drawing a blank right now though. 😛

and you think they could beat darksied then?.... and glads got beat down by masterson thor.

Originally posted by Nihilist
and you think they could beat darksied then?.... and glads got beat down by masterson thor.

With due respect, you should re-read that fight then, because Gladiator was absolutely dominating him in every respect until Masterson took control of Living Lightning and used him as a human missile. 😬

No, I don't believe Thor - H2H - could beat Darkseid.

Originally posted by Enyalus
With due respect, you should re-read that fight then, because Gladiator was absolutely dominating him in every respect until Masterson took control of Living Lightning and used him as a human missile. 😬

No, I don't believe Thor - H2H - could beat Darkseid.

my bad,forgot about LL part, glads was raining down blow's on thor that didnt seem to have any lasting effect.

Darkseid wins 9/10.

Glads could get lucky 1 time.

Originally posted by Nihilist
my bad,forgot about LL part, glads was raining down blow's on thor that didnt seem to have any lasting effect.

Glads was noticably stronger during their fight, throwing Masterson around several times. And noticably faster. At one point after Gladiator throws him into a wall, Masterson attempted to get up and brace himself for an attack that wasn't there. Glads had come around from a different angle and hit him before he could prepare.

He also made classic Wonder Man look pretty pathetic during the same arc, just prior to taking on Masterson.

And the next time they fought, it was Thor Thor. And Gladiator beat him easily the first time. Then beat Thor Girl when she was wielding her full power as the Designate. (Then later gets embarrassingly beat by both of them...)

DS 7/10 when at FP

Originally posted by Enyalus
Glads was noticably stronger during their fight, throwing Masterson around several times. And noticably faster. At one point after Gladiator throws him into a wall, Masterson attempted to get up and brace himself for an attack that wasn't there. Glads had come around from a different angle and hit him before he could prepare.

He also made classic Wonder Man look pretty pathetic during the same arc, just prior to taking on Masterson.

And the next time they fought, it was Thor Thor. And Gladiator beat him easily the first time. Then beat Thor Girl when she was wielding her full power as the Designate. (Then later gets embarrassingly beat by both of them...)

it was funny when he pummled simon into the ground😂

i just dont see him having what it takes to beat DS at all, after all he did need help to deal with Blackbolt whilst they where having some fisticuffs.

Originally posted by Nihilist
it was funny when he pummled simon into the ground😂

i just dont see him having what it takes to beat DS at all, after all he did need help to deal with Blackbolt whilst they where having some fisticuffs.

I know. I was going to say, "if its Current Gladiator right now he loses." But meh. Full capacity rules. Without going into the 'fully confident' argument. And even relatively recently he's got good showings, like owning Vulcan, Polaris, Korvus, and Rachel-Phoenix (in that order, all in the same arc.) So. *shrug*

But anywho, I gave him a split. Not the win.

Originally posted by Nihilist
and you think they could beat darksied then?.... and glads got beat down by masterson thor.
You asked for top tier he gave you few 🙂

Originally posted by kgkg
You asked for top tier he gave you few 🙂
they are not top tiers,i meant like surfer,superman,thanos etc.

Originally posted by Nihilist
they are not top tiers,i meant like surfer,superman,thanos etc.

Surfer's top tier. Superman's top tier. Thor's top tier.

Thanos is above that.

considerably

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
considerably

Yeah, a whole tier. Wow-ow!