Guardian Amp SMP vs RKT

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Originally posted by Warlord
we both know that there is only one truly omnipotent being in MU
What we have come to realize here on KMC is their are different levels of omnipotence.

And Doom is the highest level of omnipotent.

Originally posted by Mindset
And Doom is the highest level of omnipotent.
Nah he's second next to Bobby Drake 😱

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I think SMP is more durable then Destroyer. He was able to take a Universe Destroyer and only get KO'ed. I have a feeling that if the destroyer took a shot like that(point blank range), he would have been disintegrated.

SMP is also faster, and imo would attack and not just stand there. Prime is a physical character and will stick to that.

Prime was still gettin hurt by attacks less potent than that so its debatable. Gladiator was able to take a solar system destroying blast point blank but would still get hurt by less ranged and more concentrated blasts from guys like silver surfer and thor. Regardless the point isnt that thor will take out prime in one hit like the destroyer but rather that that instance shows he can indeed do alot of damage to prime with such attacks.

Also i never claimed that SMP would stand there while thor was attacking him. However he can do little to counter the time manip/mental attacks that thor can use. Then thor also has forcefields to protect himself against SMPs physical attacks

Originally posted by Enyalus
Yes. Clearly, its Odin.

Actually its Silver surfer

I meant the one above all...
anyway aunt may comes as a close second

Originally posted by Warlord
I meant the one above all...
Whoz dat? 😕

Originally posted by iceman24567
Whoz dat? 😕

the God of Marvel Universe....
he is the one that created even the living tribunal.
also there's a celestial with the same name but there should be no misconception.

Originally posted by Warlord
the God of Marvel Universe....
he is the one that created even the living tribunal.
also there's a celestial with the same name but there should be no misconception.
OMG no wai 😱

Originally posted by iceman24567
OMG no wai 😱

there was a reference about him by Adam Warlock or Moondragon, can't remember....
He is the equivalent of DC's Presence

Originally posted by Naija boy
Prime was still gettin hurt by attacks less potent than that so its debatable. Gladiator was able to take a solar system destroying blast point blank but would still get hurt by less ranged and more concentrated blasts from guys like silver surfer and thor. Regardless the point isnt that thor will take out prime in one hit like the destroyer but rather that that instance shows he can indeed do alot of damage to prime with such attacks.

Also i never claimed that SMP would stand there while thor was attacking him. However he can do little to counter the time manip/mental attacks that thor can use. Then thor also has forcefields to protect himself against SMPs physical attacks


I really don't want to go into the argument about time manipulation. I don't know much and I don't want to sound foolish(Yes I already am..). You have to remember time also stops at PZ but he wasn't affected. There reason why I said Prime won't stay there is that he can become intangible(if that's how you spell it). How strong are Thor's shield? Superman Prime can break through universes...etc. I think he can break it.(speculation)

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You have to remember time also stops at PZ but he wasn't affected.
It does?

Maybe not the way current PZ is portrayed.

Originally posted by Mindset
It does?

Maybe not the way current PZ is portrayed.


I remember Galan, or someone stating that it doesn't, but I haven't see it myself.

It may stop in the sense that they don't age, by everyone can still move around freely, it's not like anyone is affected.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You have to remember time also stops at PZ but he wasn't affected

I already addressed this

Originally posted by kgkg
It wasn't the Pre-crisis version of the PZ . That arrow was fashioned by post-crisis Superman himself. Beside the original PF was different and you couldn't physically get out by punching.

not only could people move inside this PZ , but interact with people outside
we see this twice
#1) When Superboy prime is fighting the titans

This is impossible in the Pre-cris PZ

#2) again mon able to move inside the PZ


as for you original statement

this longer applies

also it was a very good strength feat for prime rather than Time busting feat.

Now some me a scan of time stopping in PZ?

Lol at the famous retcon punch.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I really don't want to go into the argument about time manipulation. I don't know much and I don't want to sound foolish(Yes I already am..). You have to remember time also stops at PZ but he wasn't affected. There reason why I said Prime won't stay there is that he can become intangible(if that's how you spell it). How strong are Thor's shield? Superman Prime can break through universes...etc. I think he can break it.(speculation)

Actually i think kgkg conclusively proved that it doesnt in another thread. People have been seen fully conscious communicating and even moving/floating around in the phantom zone. So that really has no bearing here.

Also regular thors vortex shield was abe to contain a blast that would have destroyed 1/5th of the universe. That was regular thor who is an insect compared to RKT. So im sure they will hold for a good period of time.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Actually i think kgkg conclusively proved that it doesnt in another thread. People have been seen fully conscious communicating and even moving/floating around in the phantom zone. So that really has no bearing here.

Also regular thors vortex shield was abe to contain a blast that would have destroyed 1/5th of the universe. That was regular thor who is an insect compared to RKT. So im sure they will hold for a good period of time.

Did he even use it? I saw his feats but not the comic itself.

what duz smp and rkt stand 4?

Interesting sig.